(OT?) -- Perhaps it wasn't Payton?

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  • bostonsteeler
    Pro Bowler
    • Oct 2008
    • 1529

    (OT?) -- Perhaps it wasn't Payton?

    Indianapolis having another playoff meltdown, continuing a 15 year tradition. Used to be Payton melting; now its Luck.
    Perhaps it isn't the QB; just team culture?
  • SteelBuckeye
    Backup
    • Apr 2013
    • 398

    #2
    Well, they do have an owner who seems to be more concerned with his twitter followers than anything else ...

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    • birtikidis
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4628

      #3
      Really?
      is TY Hilton = to Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison?
      Stable of RB = Marshall Faulk or the toher guy they had?
      is Robert Mathis = Dwight Freeney?

      The Colts are in perpetual rebuild mode because Manning's contract hamstrung them for so long.

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      • tiproast
        Starter
        • Nov 2010
        • 643

        #4
        Colts philosophy in the Manning/Luck era has been to emphasize the offense, and not to invest much in the defense (witness the trading of a first round draft choice for a marginal RB in Richardson).

        They can be gashed on the ground by any team willing to commit to the run. And they don't play well outside their dome.

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        • SteelBuckeye
          Backup
          • Apr 2013
          • 398

          #5
          Originally posted by tiproast
          Colts philosophy in the Manning/Luck era has been to emphasize the offense, and not to invest much in the defense (witness the trading of a first round draft choice for a marginal RB in Richardson).

          They can be gashed on the ground by any team willing to commit to the run. And they don't play well outside their dome.
          Winner ... plus one

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          • tiproast
            Starter
            • Nov 2010
            • 643

            #6
            Originally posted by SteelBuckeye
            Winner ... plus one
            Thanks - did you notice Belichick punting from the Colts 26 at the end of the game?

            If Dungy were still the Colts coach, Belichick kicks the field goal (or takes some shots into the end zone after the 1st and 10 inside the 30).

            Belichick respects Pagano, I think. He had no use for Dungy.

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            • squidkid
              Legend
              • Feb 2012
              • 5847

              #7
              throw in 3-4 calls that went in NE favor too
              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27531

                #8
                Luck is good on throwing 15+ but he is HORRIBLE underneath. KC and the Pats saw something on tape and exposed him. He stares down WR's on short routes...

                Notice how both Indy games had foes scoring in the 40's.... most if it was due to short fields because of Luck.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • tiproast
                  Starter
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 643

                  #9
                  Originally posted by squidkid
                  throw in 3-4 calls that went in NE favor too
                  Agree that the PI call they got in the 2nd half was marginal.

                  Don't recall any others.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tiproast
                    Agree that the PI call they got in the 2nd half was marginal.

                    Don't recall any others.
                    #17 was tossed on a 3rd down that wasnt called but that was it IMO. Colts were manhandled by a better team... the refs didnt change the outcome of that game. Pats went smashmouth and Colts couldnt stop it.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • tiproast
                      Starter
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 643

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      #17 was tossed on a 3rd down that wasnt called but that was it IMO.
                      I don't possess the ability to see those kinds of plays - there's some weird kind of filtering that happens when I put on my game-day glasses.

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                      • squidkid
                        Legend
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 5847

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tiproast
                        Agree that the PI call they got in the 2nd half was marginal.

                        Don't recall any others.
                        late hit on luck
                        PI no call on indy wr(brazill)
                        no hold call where dierdorf actually said NE guy got away with a grab
                        luck was also hit low(knees) on a sack. (slam dunk call if it was brady)
                        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                        • tiproast
                          Starter
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 643

                          #13
                          Originally posted by squidkid
                          late hit on luck
                          PI no call on indy wr(brazill)
                          no hold call where dierdorf actually said NE guy got away with a grab
                          luck was also hit low(knees) on a sack. (slam dunk call if it was brady)
                          Mathis went for a below the knee tackle on Brady on a near sack, and that wasn't called (or noticed by Dierdorf).

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                          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 10281

                            #14
                            Indy came into this playoff as a division winner in perhaps the weakest division in football. If we ranked the playoff teams prior to the WC round, there is no way that you could legitimately ranked them as a top two AFC team. They were within a TD in the fourth Q. I don't think that this team underachieved.

                            Now, when you have a team ranked in the top two, who consistently go out in their first playoff game at home, that is falling short! I know because I saw and heard Bill Cowher's teams do that throughout the nineties.
                            http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                            • bostonsteeler
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1529

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tiproast
                              Mathis went for a below the knee tackle on Brady on a near sack, and that wasn't called (or noticed by Dierdorf).

                              There may have been more blown calls favoring NE than Indy, but in the big picture they were irrelevant. NE was just far superior to Indy on that day. No two days are the same in the NFL though.

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