Ike and Troy to be cut?

[Dee Dub]

Neither of them will get cut. They'll both acept some sort pay cut and will stay. Surely they wan't make the same mistake that Harrison made.

This is unrealistic as well. Most players at the end of their careers (knowing they aren't getting another big pay day), dont take pay cuts. Did James Harrison take a pay cut? For most, it is about their family, not the team they play for. Their loyalty is far more stronger for their family than a football team.

[Dee Dub]

.............How quickly many of us forget...Ward & Harrison were cut to. When the ugly business side shows up...NOBODY is untouchable. Being that Ike & Troy in the top 5 highest paid Steelers at 33 & 34 next year...They are on the table for discussion.

Exactly!! JPN....you my friend have the ability to remove yourself from the emotion and see what reality is. Gold Star for you!!!

[Dee Dub]

.....Keenan Allen took 3 years to develop because he was a man cover corner in college.

You meant Keenan Lewis. Keenan Allen is blowing it up for the Chargers in his rookie year.

And just to clarify something here, the Steelers do play some man coverage in their 3-4 defense.

[birtikidis]

As far as Allen goes, yes i understand he had an ankle problem at the beginning of the season.
He is and should be a starter on this team.
He is our future at CB.
Keeping Ike Taylor because he is familiar with the defense keeps Allen off the field, i don't get why people don't understand this.
Ike is like that comfortable old pair of socks that have holes in them that you refuse to throw out.

Most people don't understand your point because two CB's are on the field at the same time. Soooo having Ike on one side does not hurt Allen.. All he has to do is beat Gay out of his spot. Something he SHOULD have been able to do all season but hasn't managed at this point.

[hawaiiansteel]

James Jones Takes INT Away From Ike Taylor

[pittpete]

That is just sad.

[Slapstick]

This is unrealistic as well. Most players at the end of their careers (knowing they aren't getting another big pay day), dont take pay cuts. Did James Harrison take a pay cut? For most, it is about their family, not the team they play for. Their loyalty is far more stronger for their family than a football team.

If James had taken the pay cut, his family would be better off by several million dollars this season...

[Rod Polamalu]

Ike very possibly. Troy ?....not a snowman's chance in hell. He may not exactly be in his prime, but he remains the best in the league at his position and is a future first ballot HOF.

He is just basically playing with a Sanford and Son front seven, almost literally no help in the form of performance from the other safety spot along with what has become our traditionally suspect play from all cb's on our roster. (Young or Old)

The entire League knows this and surely our front office must as well. They let Troy Walk and he will land a huge contract with the Niners, Patsies, or with Coach Carroll in Seattle and contribute greatly to another World Championship.

And in the meanwhile some Steeler fans and the kiss ass, apologist Pittsburgh press will be here watching the tiny project player Sharmarko looking ridiculous, talking about how the following season the light is going to magically come on and he's "going to be a beast and waaaay better than Troy !",....for the next 2-7 years. Hahahaha

[NorthCoast]

If James had taken the pay cut, his family would be better off by several million dollars this season...

In the end he did take a pay cut. He is playing for less than what the Steelers offered. Sometimes it works out for the player, sometimes not. It tends to NOT work out for players in the twilight of their careers.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

What the Wha'.....?

And in the meanwhile some Steeler fans and the kiss ass, apologist Pittsburgh press will be here watching the tiny project player Sharmarko looking ridiculous, talking about how the following season the light is going to magically come on and he's "going to be a beast and waaaay better than Troy !",....for the next 2-7 years. Hahahaha

Troy is listed at 5'10" and 207 lbs. Syracuse listed Shamarko at 5'10" and 206. Steelers.com has Shamarko listed at 5'9" and 217. You might come up with something else, but the size difference is fairly negligible.

[Rod Polamalu]

Troy is listed at 5'10" and 207 lbs. Syracuse listed Shamarko at 5'10" and 206. Steelers.com has Shamarko listed at 5'9" and 217. You might come up with something else, but the size difference is fairly negligible.

Okay,...i don't know what your physical stature and or athletic background is but,....if you can not see that Troy is clearly a bit heavier than 207 lbs,.. and is far denser, wider, more athletic, fluid and far more naturally gifted than Thomas,..... uh then you are exactly the kinda person that game program or football card measurements are for,..no disrespect,...just saying.

And before you or anyone else even thinks of the Brain Fart of trying to compare Thomas to Polamalu in any form or fashion,...please stop and think about as much.

Troy has been an exceptional athlete and special football player since his youth. And in terms of playing the safety position, going back to college at SC he was not only elite at the position,... but one of the very best players in the Nation and one of the very best players on the field at all times.

Comparing Thomas to Troy is just as absurd comparing Lethon Flowers to him (Troy) Or Ike and Chad Scott to Rod Woodson. Please knock it off. lol

[Shoe]

The entire League knows this and surely our front office must as well. They let Troy Walk and he will land a huge contract with the Niners, Patsies, or with Coach Carroll in Seattle and contribute greatly to another World Championship.

And in the meanwhile some Steeler fans and the kiss ass, apologist Pittsburgh press will be here watching the tiny project player Sharmarko looking ridiculous, talking about how the following season the light is going to magically come on and he's "going to be a beast and waaaay better than Troy !",....for the next 2-7 years. Hahahaha

Oh, you couldn't be more right. They have to tread lightly with Troy. Ike and those other guys... play the same game they did with Harrison.

But with Troy, he would certainly land on his feet, and be a key contributor to anyone lucky enough to land him. Bill Belichick* will certainly be looking to poach him, Woodley, and whoever we hard-ball.

I do not get what you are saying about Shark Thomas. No one that I've read or seen, has placed expectations beyond any 4th round pick on him in terms of replacing Troy. As you said, there is no comparison.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Okay,...i don't know what your physical stature and or athletic background is but,....if you can not see that Troy is clearly a bit heavier than 207 lbs,.. and is far denser, wider, more athletic, fluid and far more naturally gifted than Thomas,..... uh then you are exactly the kinda person that game program or football card measurements are for,..no disrespect,...just saying.

And before you or anyone else even thinks of the Brain Fart of trying to compare Thomas to Polamalu in any form or fashion,...please stop and think about as much.

Troy has been an exceptional athlete and special football player since his youth. And in terms of playing the safety position, going back to college at SC he was not only elite at the position,... but one of the very best players in the Nation and one of the very best players on the field at all times.

Comparing Thomas to Troy is just as absurd comparing Lethon Flowers to him (Troy) Or Ike and Chad Scott to Rod Woodson. Please knock it off. lol

I never said anything about athleticism, fluidity, or giftedness. But when it comes to size? NOT much difference between Shamarko and Troy (certainly not Troy when he first came into the league). In your earlier post, you made it sound like the greatest reason Shamarko was inferior to Troy was because he was "tiny" compared to Troy--that's just ridiculous. Shamarko may be inferior to Troy for several reasons; I don't believe that size is one of them.

BTW, I'm not one of those who expects that Shamarko will ever be as good as Polamalu has been. But if he can be as good as he can be, he will help this team going forward.
I do think he'll turn out to be a bit better than a "project" player.

[thor75]

Shamarko is built like a brick sh*thouse. not many are physically gifted like Troy, but Shamarko's work ethic will carry him far imo. He may not ascend to Troy's level but he will be a solid starter for years.