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  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #61
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Oh well... sucks for Packers fans. lol...
    Yea, we've been on the other end of it, but, GB shouldn't have even had the opportunity, it's poor clock management, win or lose and winning doesn't make it the correct call.

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    • Iron Shiek
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3798

      #62
      Originally posted by squidkid
      for those of you claiming the conditions were bad for a game ending FG attempt, then why didnt tomlin go for 2 after scoring the TD?
      Ha! This is a great thought. Everyone is acting like that chip shot was the equivalent of Justin Tucker's 61 yd fg last week for the rats. Weather or not, you still at minimum take at least one knee then try for the TD. The less time the other team has to score, the better your chances are of winning. Not sure why this was so hard to grasp.

      Anyway, like felt said, we won dammit! Time to move on to the next game.
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      • squidkid
        Legend
        • Feb 2012
        • 5847

        #63
        Originally posted by Iron Shiek
        Ha! This is a great thought. Everyone is acting like that chip shot was the equivalent of Justin Tucker's 61 yd fg last week for the rats. Weather or not, you still at minimum take at least one knee then try for the TD. The less time the other team has to score, the better your chances are of winning. Not sure why this was so hard to grasp.

        Anyway, like felt said, we won dammit! Time to move on to the next game.
        i have to laugh at the tomlin fans that think the risk of a FG with basically no time left was higher than the risk of bell fumbling trying to score a TD with 1:30 left.
        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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        • ikestops85
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2008
          • 3724

          #64
          I'm a big Tomlin fan but his time management is horrible. I can't even believe we are having a discussion about this. For all those giving kudos to the offense for scoring that last touchdown you do realize Green Bay let us walk in. Their linebackers just stood up at the snap but never moved. They knew the only chance they had was to let us score a TD and we played right into their hands.

          How can an NFL coaching staff not see this? At least have Ben take 1 knee and run 40 more seconds off the clock. Then you can walk in on the 3rd down. GB would have still let us score. So, not only do you not take a knee but you line up in shotgun formation (or pistol, I don't remember because I was screaming at the TV) which has just as high a risk of screwing up the snap as you would with a FG attempt. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

          You kneel down twice and then kick a FG leaving GB with at most 5 seconds on the clock. You pooch kick it ... don't squib it ... and if they try and run it back you should be able to defend it and the game is over. That way you eliminate the necessity of putting your fans at risk of a heart attack or stroke.
          As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

          but Go Steelers!!!

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          • sick beats
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2013
            • 2144

            #65
            Originally posted by legend of polamalu
            Its on the coaches....If I knew this sitting in my boxers at home, how can the guy making millions of dollars not know this????
            I thought the same thing. Matter of fact, I thought it was so odd, that I figured I must be missing something, but I wasn't. That was just dumb coaching. Tomlin, a genius, he is not. That gaff could have easily led to OT and a loss.

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            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              #66
              the annoucing vrew in the dallas game were also saying it was beneficial that murray didnt get in the 1st time they tried running him from the 1.
              they said the same when he didnt get in on 2nd down.

              well, they almost lost their playoff chances cause they needed a sand lot play from romo to get in on 4th down

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              • AxnJxn
                Backup
                • Nov 2008
                • 116

                #67
                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                the annoucing vrew in the dallas game were also saying it was beneficial that murray didnt get in the 1st time they tried running him from the 1.
                they said the same when he didnt get in on 2nd down.

                well, they almost lost their playoff chances cause they needed a sand lot play from romo to get in on 4th down
                Not the same situation. The Cowboys needed a TD there. The Steelers only needed a FG to take the lead. If the Steelers needed a TD, GB doesn't just let them walk in the end zone. There's a reason why GB did that, and there's a reason why people are annoyed that we didn't burn more time when we had complete control of the clock.

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                • buccoray61
                  Starter
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 945

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Moonie
                  That's how girls or communists play football!

                  It would have been a vote of no confidence in D too - which is very different than saying they suck. It's saying we don't even trust you to hold Rodger-less Packers in the snow from going 80 yards on you in a minute. Terrible message.

                  I like what we did. Guts, balls, poise and moxie.
                  Girls or communists That's a great line!!

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                  • Flasteel
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4004

                    #69
                    Originally posted by ikestops85
                    I'm a big Tomlin fan but his time management is horrible. I can't even believe we are having a discussion about this. For all those giving kudos to the offense for scoring that last touchdown you do realize Green Bay let us walk in. Their linebackers just stood up at the snap but never moved. They knew the only chance they had was to let us score a TD and we played right into their hands.

                    How can an NFL coaching staff not see this? At least have Ben take 1 knee and run 40 more seconds off the clock. Then you can walk in on the 3rd down. GB would have still let us score. So, not only do you not take a knee but you line up in shotgun formation (or pistol, I don't remember because I was screaming at the TV) which has just as high a risk of screwing up the snap as you would with a FG attempt. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

                    You kneel down twice and then kick a FG leaving GB with at most 5 seconds on the clock. You pooch kick it ... don't squib it ... and if they try and run it back you should be able to defend it and the game is over. That way you eliminate the necessity of putting your fans at risk of a heart attack or stroke.
                    They did not just let us score. I watched it frame by frame and every guy came firing out of their stance and the linebackers filled. One of them got steamrolled as he tried to make the tackle in the wash and another linebacker tried, but was late filling his hole.

                    Regardless, going for the TD was the right call all day long. I can just see some the same people in this thread blasting Tomlin for going for 3 and something happened on the FG (as it did with the Packers chip shot earlier in the game) or Green Bay was able to get in range for a tying FG on a long return.

                    Kicking it deep on the other hand? Not smart. With a long field and no timeouts, I sincerely doubt they would have been able to tie it up. They couldn't even tie it up on a 31 yard field. You want to scream at poor clock management, how about them only getting one play off in the last 28 seconds? Would suck to be a Packer fan at that moment.

                    I can get the debate, but all of this criticism and vitriol is absurd.
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                    • Steelhere10
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3849

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Flasteel
                      They did not just let us score. I watched it frame by frame and every guy came firing out of their stance and the linebackers filled. One of them got steamrolled as he tried to make the tackle in the wash and another linebacker tried, but was late filling his hole.

                      Regardless, going for the TD was the right call all day long. I can just see some the same people in this thread blasting Tomlin for going for 3 and something happened on the FG (as it did with the Packers chip shot earlier in the game) or Green Bay was able to get in range for a tying FG on a long return.

                      Kicking it deep on the other hand? Not smart. With a long field and no timeouts, I sincerely doubt they would have been able to tie it up. They couldn't even tie it up on a 31 yard field. You want to scream at poor clock management, how about them only getting one play off in the last 28 seconds? Would suck to be a Packer fan at that moment.

                      I can get the debate, but all of this criticism and vitriol is absurd.
                      100 percent agree, like I said some people listen to David Todd on Bng radio toooo much.
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                      • pfelix73
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3458

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Flasteel
                        They did not just let us score. I watched it frame by frame and every guy came firing out of their stance and the linebackers filled. One of them got steamrolled as he tried to make the tackle in the wash and another linebacker tried, but was late filling his hole.

                        Regardless, going for the TD was the right call all day long. I can just see some the same people in this thread blasting Tomlin for going for 3 and something happened on the FG (as it did with the Packers chip shot earlier in the game) or Green Bay was able to get in range for a tying FG on a long return.

                        Kicking it deep on the other hand? Not smart. With a long field and no timeouts, I sincerely doubt they would have been able to tie it up. They couldn't even tie it up on a 31 yard field. You want to scream at poor clock management, how about them only getting one play off in the last 28 seconds? Would suck to be a Packer fan at that moment.

                        I can get the debate, but all of this criticism and vitriol is absurd.


                        Well Flasteel... You are totally 110% WRONG. Correct thing to do was to run down the clock to under 5 seconds, kick the FG as time expires, Game over... YOU DO NOT EXTEND THE GAME LIKE TOMLIN DID. Sorry, you are just wrong in this. Luckily it worked out for us THIS time.
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                        • Moonie
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 2516

                          #72
                          They absolutely did not let us score. What were the Packers doing, acting? Does anyone really believe the Packer's defensive coordinator in the seldom used Thespian 5-3 set? Why on earth would they act out a play in front of their fans on the goal line? No one would do that. To what end? Why even risk a stubbed toe if you wanted the Steelers to score (as if ANY team in the NFL wants another team to score a tie-breaking go ahead touchdown with less than two minutes left). Basura!

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #73
                            The Packers let them score the touchdown, the defensive linemen stand up and the linebackers don't even attack the line of scrimmage. It didn't look like a whole of effort to shed blocks either. They let him walk in, because they knew burning clock was not what they wanted to do only to have the Steelers kick a FG with nothing on the clock.

                            If that's how you play goal line defense then its no wonder the Packers are struggling for a playoff spot.

                            Pappy
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                            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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                            • Moonie
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 2516

                              #74
                              Roethlisberger was in shotgun. Three wide receivers.

                              So they just pretended to try? It's too demented to believe. "Pssst...just pretend to play. We don't want them to think we're not trying, because then.......uhhh......"

                              Why not just part like the Red Sea as soon as the ball was snapped? Hell, even before it was snapped. Just waive the Steelers in and save another second or two.

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                              • Flasteel
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 4004

                                #75
                                Originally posted by papillon
                                The Packers let them score the touchdown, the defensive linemen stand up and the linebackers don't even attack the line of scrimmage. It didn't look like a whole of effort to shed blocks either. They let him walk in, because they knew burning clock was not what they wanted to do only to have the Steelers kick a FG with nothing on the clock.

                                If that's how you play goal line defense then its no wonder the Packers are struggling for a playoff spot.

                                Pappy
                                Look at the tape before you start saying things like the d-linemen stood up and the backers didn't attack the line of scrimmage. Those things simply did not happen. One guy (#57) took a false step outside, which basically took him out of the play and he did make a half-hearted effort, because it was obviously too late.

                                You guys are trying to justify your own beliefs by stating it was something the Packers were facilitating. Every player in the box looked like they were putting forward an effort to stop the play. Do you think they only wen't 75% full speed in some half-assed attempt to maybe let them score?

                                Ridiculous.
                                Last edited by Flasteel; 12-24-2013, 01:44 AM.
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