lets talk WOODLEY

[squidkid]

since his big payday, woodley has been underwhelming for the most part.
do you think the guy milks his injuries, comes back earlier than he should or returns at the appropriate time?
do you think the play of worilds and the talk of a potential june first release influenced him returning this week?
will it influence his effort from here on out or do you think he gives maximum effort regardless of how well worilds has played or the cap hit vs production talks?
will it influence whether he gets 'injured' from here on out and if he does will he play thru it or take more games off?

[Steelhere10]

Woodley need to be traded asap, as long as Worilds come half as cheap.

[hawaiiansteel]

Woodley would still count $5.5 million against the Steelers' cap next year from past bonuses, it's probably much more feasible financially to release him after next season.

[feltdizz]

Woodley need to be traded asap, as long as Worilds come half as cheap.

I bet money Worlids would disappear the day we traded Woodley. I would keep Woodley one more year to make sure Worlids is legit on that side.

[Ernie]

I bet money Worlids would disappear the day we traded Woodley. I would keep Woodley one more year to make sure Worlids is legit on that side.

Very possible dizz.. that's the chance you take when you make a move like that.

[Shoe]

I bet money Worlids would disappear the day we traded Woodley. I would keep Woodley one more year to make sure Worlids is legit on that side.

I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think people are too much jumping on the Jason-Worilds-has-arrived bandwagon. Worilds still has a lot to prove, and even if you are a believer. It isn't like he's wrecking opposing game plans.

To the original thread, I don't think Woodley milks things too much. I think he is playing hard this year. BUT... he wasted his goodwill the past two years.

This is a lesson for us all. It is related to the old story of the boy crying wolf, or shearing or skinning a sheep once . If Woodley never used up his goodwill the past two years (i.e. coming to camp prepared and maybe not getting hurt those two years), he would be looked at much different (e.g. now) when he has a real injury. People who watched Woodley this year, could see that he was trying hard. And it showed in his output (5 sacks thru the first 4 games). But he is hamstrung now, by the two years he burned. People are sick of him.

[feltdizz]

I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think people are too much jumping on the Jason-Worilds-has-arrived bandwagon. Worilds still has a lot to prove, and even if you are a believer. It isn't like he's wrecking opposing game plans.

To the original thread, I don't think Woodley milks things too much. I think he is playing hard this year. BUT... he wasted his goodwill the past two years.

This is a lesson for us all. It is related to the old story of the boy crying wolf, or shearing or skinning a sheep once . If Woodley never used up his goodwill the past two years (i.e. coming to camp prepared and maybe not getting hurt those two years), he would be looked at much different (e.g. now) when he has a real injury. People who watched Woodley this year, could see that he was trying hard. And it showed in his output (5 sacks thru the first 4 games). But he is hamstrung now, by the two years he burned. People are sick of him.

JH did it right and since he didnt take a paycut people turned on him even though he did more than enough to warrant full pay.

Fans want it all and our expectations are unrealistic... sometimes we even misremember how great these players are/were in order to fuel our agenda.

Not saying Woodley doesn't have flaws but fans expect 15 sacks while having no idea what the assignment s and game plans are from week to week.

[Shoe]

JH did it right and since he didnt take a paycut people turned on him even though he did more than enough to warrant full pay.

Fans want it all and our expectations are unrealistic... sometimes we even misremember how great these players are/were in order to fuel our agenda.

Not saying Woodley doesn't have flaws but fans expect 15 sacks while having no idea what the assignment s and game plans are from week to week.

My point though, is that his injury this year would be dismissed as just that (an injury), had he not mailed it in the previous two years. But because he burned that bridge (by reporting to camp the last two years in lackluster shape), people are calling for his ouster.

The moral: Carpe diem

[squidkid]

JH did it right and since he didnt take a paycut people turned on him even though he did more than enough to warrant full pay.

Fans want it all and our expectations are unrealistic... sometimes we even misremember how great these players are/were in order to fuel our agenda.

Not saying Woodley doesn't have flaws but fans expect 15 sacks while having no idea what the assignment s and game plans are from week to week.

i have to disagree. JH was often injured, his production dropped, he missed games and age was not on his side in relation to the dollar amount owed. he was offered a contract that would allow him to obtain all of his money if he produced. he overvalued himself and found out the hard way by the sum of a few million. its a natural reaction to turn on a player when they dont take the interest of the team first. remembering how great the WERE and paying them accordingly is part of the reason we are where we are today.

[SteelBucks]

since his big payday, woodley has been underwhelming for the most part.
do you think the guy milks his injuries, comes back earlier than he should or returns at the appropriate time?
do you think the play of worilds and the talk of a potential june first release influenced him returning this week?
will it influence his effort from here on out or do you think he gives maximum effort regardless of how well worilds has played or the cap hit vs production talks?
will it influence whether he gets 'injured' from here on out and if he does will he play thru it or take more games off?

Many of Woodley's injuries are soft tissue related and most of these can be prevented by proper conditioning. Woodley is either made of glass or doesn't give a damn in the off-season. I'm betting on the later....

[Captain Lemming]

since his big payday, woodley has been underwhelming for the most part.
do you think the guy milks his injuries, comes back earlier than he should or returns at the appropriate time?
do you think the play of worilds and the talk of a potential june first release influenced him returning this week?
will it influence his effort from here on out or do you think he gives maximum effort regardless of how well worilds has played or the cap hit vs production talks?
will it influence whether he gets 'injured' from here on out and if he does will he play thru it or take more games off?

The best season start of Woodley's careeer was the year after his deal, pre-injury. He was on pace for a Steeler record for sacks.

[NorthCoast]

LeBeau's defense is based on strong LB play. The Steelers cannot afford to have a starter in and out of games as often as Woodley is. I can only imagine how Timmon's feels busting his butt every week while Wood rides the pine.......

[squidkid]

LAME R WOODLEY.................1 assist
i guess he's good with what he has and realizes his contract has handcuffed the team................pathetic

[squidkid]

called that one didnt i?

[Oviedo]

JH did it right and since he didnt take a paycut people turned on him even though he did more than enough to warrant full pay.

Fans want it all and our expectations are unrealistic... sometimes we even misremember how great these players are/were in order to fuel our agenda.

Not saying Woodley doesn't have flaws but fans expect 15 sacks while having no idea what the assignment s and game plans are from week to week.

JH fdid it about as WRONG as anyone could. He left a team that had a defense that was designed or him to be successful for one that had no real role for him because he doesn't fit their defense and he took less money from the new team. That is just plain stupid.

JH was not great, he was close to being washed up and the front office knew it. His performance on the Bumgals pretty much confirmed it.

JH did nothing right at the end of his time with the Steelers except massage his ego.