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  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    We come out with 3 bs runs

    And the Ravens come out firing, give me a break.
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  • pittpete
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 6825

    #2
    How did u like that pressure on 3rd and goal?
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    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #3
      Originally posted by Steelhere10
      And the Ravens come out firing, give me a break.
      I couldn't agree more, 6 runs to start the game and now the offense can't get into rhythm. Ike's play the last fee games has been bad. They need to pick it up on both sides of the ball.

      Pappy
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      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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      • Ernie
        Legend
        • Aug 2013
        • 8470

        #4
        my thoughts exactly. Sets the tone for the whole stinkin game. Worst play calling I've seen all season.. and in a "Do or die" game. Haley must go.

        ernie
        Last edited by Ernie; 11-29-2013, 01:24 AM.

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        • Flasteel
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4004

          #5
          Where is the friggin' No-huddle?
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          • papillon
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 11340

            #6
            Originally posted by Flasteel
            Where is the friggin' No-huddle?
            This game is too important for Haley to trust Ben. (Shakes head).

            Now that the steelers are down by 13 he'll hand the game to Ben. ( shakes head again)

            Pappy
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            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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            • dmbuso
              Rookie
              • Sep 2013
              • 7

              #7
              Everybody I talk to thinks Haley is a joke. Hopefully they'll get a real OC next year. What has be ever accomplished?

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              • MicroBioSteel
                Backup
                • Feb 2009
                • 146

                #8
                Everyone needs to consider the probability/possibility that those runs were used to set up downstream plays.

                The first 2 runs were definitely done with a purpose. The Steelers went with the JUMBO package on 1st and 2nd down while huddling before both plays. As soon as the 2nd down play was over the Steelers immediately went to the line after making a quick substitution for a passing play. Unfortunately something happened and there was an on field time out/ delay that basically negated what the Steelers were trying to do, which was prevent the Ravens from getting their nickle/dime subs on the field (They would have been stuck with fat beef on the field). I think if they could have caught the Ravens, Ben would have found the mismatch and chucked it downfield.

                Haley is not the problem. He's patient, probes for weakness and then exploits. This is the reason we start slowly. It's a methodical approach. Plus, he's not the responsible for Ike being burned!

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                • bostonsteeler
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1529

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MicroBioSteel
                  Everyone needs to consider the probability/possibility that those runs were used to set up downstream plays.

                  The first 2 runs were definitely done with a purpose. The Steelers went with the JUMBO package on 1st and 2nd down while huddling before both plays. As soon as the 2nd down play was over the Steelers immediately went to the line after making a quick substitution for a passing play. Unfortunately something happened and there was an on field time out/ delay that basically negated what the Steelers were trying to do, which was prevent the Ravens from getting their nickle/dime subs on the field (They would have been stuck with fat beef on the field). I think if they could have caught the Ravens, Ben would have found the mismatch and chucked it downfield.

                  Haley is not the problem. He's patient, probes for weakness and then exploits. This is the reason we start slowly. It's a methodical approach. Plus, he's not the responsible for Ike being burned!

                  This!

                  Or for Sushi trying to single-handedly lose us games. Or for Manny playing juggler instead of a WR. Or for Ben throwing bounce passes.

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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #10
                    The Steelers gave away two drives in a game decided by 2 points. You only get so many drives per game, it seemed useless to me. The Ravens wasted no time, they know the team that scores first in this series has a decided advantage and wanted to be the team to score first.

                    Ben has a complete understanding of this offense, Haley should put the game plan together with Ben, give him down and distance plays and then get out of the way at game time.

                    Ben was sharp in the second half tonight and if Manny Sanders catches any one of the three he dropped the outcome may have been different.

                    Pappy
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                    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                    • SteelBucks
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 8075

                      #11
                      Originally posted by papillon
                      The Steelers gave away two drives in a game decided by 2 points. You only get so many drives per game, it seemed useless to me. The Ravens wasted no time, they know the team that scores first in this series has a decided advantage and wanted to be the team to score first.

                      Ben has a complete understanding of this offense, Haley should put the game plan together with Ben, give him down and distance plays and then get out of the way at game time.

                      Ben was sharp in the second half tonight and if Manny Sanders catches any one of the three he dropped the outcome may have been different.

                      Pappy
                      +1..........

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                      • Shoe
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4044

                        #12
                        Seriously, WT_ are these bozo's complaining about?

                        Originally posted by MicroBioSteel
                        Everyone needs to consider the probability/possibility that those runs were used to set up downstream plays.

                        The first 2 runs were definitely done with a purpose. The Steelers went with the JUMBO package on 1st and 2nd down while huddling before both plays. As soon as the 2nd down play was over the Steelers immediately went to the line after making a quick substitution for a passing play. Unfortunately something happened and there was an on field time out/ delay that basically negated what the Steelers were trying to do, which was prevent the Ravens from getting their nickle/dime subs on the field (They would have been stuck with fat beef on the field). I think if they could have caught the Ravens, Ben would have found the mismatch and chucked it downfield.

                        Haley is not the problem. He's patient, probes for weakness and then exploits. This is the reason we start slowly. It's a methodical approach. Plus, he's not the responsible for Ike being burned!
                        "We don't run it enough", "we are too predictable", etc.

                        Fans complaining about playcalling is about the most pointless thing a fan can complain about. Unless you (fan) watch game tape non-stop in preparation... how the eff can you know what is/was behind any decision-making? You don't know the tendencies, the formations, the Ravens and their season leading up to that game. You know who does? The coaches and players, who spent all week studying... that's who.

                        If Bell rips off a few decent gains on that first sequence of plays, what then? Would you morons be belly-aching about running the ball on the first three plays? Because that's basically what you are doing--being results-oriented and not taking into account a myriad of other factors.
                        I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35649

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steelhere10
                          And the Ravens come out firing, give me a break.

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                          • Steelhere10
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3849

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shoe
                            "We don't run it enough", "we are too predictable", etc.

                            Fans complaining about playcalling is about the most pointless thing a fan can complain about. Unless you (fan) watch game tape non-stop in preparation... how the eff can you know what is/was behind any decision-making? You don't know the tendencies, the formations, the Ravens and their season leading up to that game. You know who does? The coaches and players, who spent all week studying... that's who.

                            If Bell rips off a few decent gains on that first sequence of plays, what then? Would you morons be belly-aching about running the ball on the first three plays? Because that's basically what you are doing--being results-oriented and not taking into account a myriad of other factors.
                            It's called mentality, example
                            Against Detroit they knew that the only way to win was by putting up a lot of points, and guess what they did. The mentality for us yesterday was to keep it close and win it at the end, unfortunately Baltimore was not playing that game so they came out aggressive, attacked and made the Steelers play on their heels the rest of the night. Which resulted in us not being able to stop them.
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                            • MCHammer
                              Starter
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 574

                              #15
                              We don't have time to start the game off with some sort of "probing" and "methodical" strategy with a defense that plays like this. Part of being an offensive coordinator is not just playing with the toys on your side of the ball, but crafting a plan that best allows you to win. For instance, of the more frustrating tendencies of Arians was the 3 and outs in the third and fourth quarters of games in which the Steelers had the lead and needed to burn the clock while their defense rested.

                              I don't understand the suicidal hand-off up the gut on goal lines. We're at the 1/2 yard line. Why not a QB sneak on first down? We have an advantage knowing the snap count and only need to break the line of scrimmage with a QB of Ben's size? How hard is it to snap and shove yourself forward behind the center for 1.5 feet. All you need to do is break the plane. Instead we lost our starting RB a play later along with Velasco.

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