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  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    Fire Tomlin

    OK, I know, this is a totally reactionary response to today's loss, and tomorrow, I'll probably want to go back on it ...but today, I'm thinking it's time to can MT. This team was just not prepared for the Raiders game. It's getting to be an all-too-common occurrence. And I'm tired of hearing excuses about Tomlin's clock management. He's coached how many years, and he still doesn't get it? He never will. He can hit the road. And he can take the golf coach with him.

    And as far as our vaunted defense? The Raiders have one of the worst O-lines in the league...and we couldn't do any better than that? LeBeau can start collecting his pension.

    Plenty of players who ought to be fired, too.
  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    #2
    There talking about DL on the postgame radio broadcast, basically saying the defense was playing like they wasn't prepared. 10 yd cushion makes even the worst QB look good. He should be the first to get canned. And if Tomlin can't can him or Haley, the Rooneys need to can him.
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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #3
      They new we couldn't defend the read option... and they made us pay.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • SidSmythe
        Hall of Famer
        • Sep 2008
        • 4708

        #4
        SteelDork needs to get over the Steelers problem being the "10 yard cushion" .... Tomlin needs to go b/c he can't develop players. I'm just not seeing players getting better....everyone's a "project" on this team.
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #5
          IMO, the next couple of seasons is where the rubber meets the road. MT, has been considered a great coach by many. But, as the Cowher regimes leadership left, MT has struggled to put together solid teams. This season is now over. MT, can still salvage future seasons by righting the ship now. While I believe Tomlin's job is safe...not sure he can have two losing seasons in a row and keep his job. This is where good coaches prove they are great coaches. Many eyes including the ownership will be watching closely.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #6
            Originally posted by SidSmythe
            SteelDork needs to get over the Steelers problem being the "10 yard cushion" .... Tomlin needs to go b/c he can't develop players. I'm just not seeing players getting better....everyone's a "project" on this team.
            Aren't the coordinators and their coaches the ones who are suppose to be developing the players and debveloping schemes and gameplans to maximize the abilities of the playewrs we actually have?

            I'd fire them before the head coach.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Originally posted by Shawn
              IMO, the next couple of seasons is where the rubber meets the road. MT, has been considered a great coach by many. But, as the Cowher regimes leadership left, MT has struggled to put together solid teams. This season is now over. MT, can still salvage future seasons by righting the ship now. While I believe Tomlin's job is safe...not sure he can have two losing seasons in a row and keep his job. This is where good coaches prove they are great coaches. Many eyes including the ownership will be watching closely.
              He hasn't had a losing season yet as head coach!
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • phillyesq
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 7568

                #8
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Aren't the coordinators and their coaches the ones who are suppose to be developing the players and debveloping schemes and gameplans to maximize the abilities of the playewrs we actually have?

                I'd fire them before the head coach.
                We know you would. You would have fired Lebeau 2 Lombardis and 3 SB appearances ago.

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                • bostonsteeler
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1529

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  He hasn't had a losing season yet as head coach!
                  No, just a couple of 8-8 seasons. This will be his first losing season. So in 7 seasons he gets to the SB twice, to the playoffs twice more, and then puts in three stinkers, only now the stinkers are coming on fast and thick and are getting worse..

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                  • Shoe
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4044

                    #10
                    The team didn't come prepared to play. IMO, that is on the coaching staff. While Tomlin is obviously at the head of that, what is very clear is that a 70-something year old coordinator just can't cut it. Before we even look at us today, look at how the Cowboys (Monte Kiffin) lose. A couple weeks back, they lost a game in which they scored 48 points. This week, they lose a game where (they give 329 yards up to one WR) they basically sat back and let Detroit drive the field on them on the last series...

                    Flash back to our game. We come into an entirely winnable game... with the memory of a one-dimensional QB (Tebow) abusing us just two years ago in the playoffs... and we let him go 93 yards on us in the first minute of the game. I must have glanced away for JUST A SECOND, because the next thing I look up, the Raiders have the ball back and on our side of the field AGAIN (if someone can please advise, please tell me how that happened)... and they proceed to score two more TOUCHDOWNS in the half. That was basically the game.

                    Pryor is a terrible passer. So was Tebow. How we let two one-dimensional QBs dictate to us is beyond me. A lack of talent can be blamed, but again, scheming can take that away, when you are facing a limited offense as we faced today (and two years ago in Denver).

                    As much as I would like to blame Tomlin (and I still do, to an extent), it is obvious to me that this was on the defense.
                    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                    • SteelBuckeye
                      Backup
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 398

                      #11
                      @Shoe .. brother, don't forget the O-Coordinator ... I mean daaaang .. I thought I could call all of Arian's plays. I just knew today that on 3rd and long we would try the WR Screen ... heck, I called the screens in dang near EVERY situation that we used them. If I can sit on my couch, drinking a beer and call our plays .. I'm sure the Raiders D knew what was coming. Haley has to go just as much as LeBeau.
                      And btw, does it seem to anyone else that the whole offense is doing "just enough" to be able to say that they are "trying", while at the same time "trying" means "trying to get Haley fired"? Kind of a passive/aggressive approach to showing how much they hate the guy?!!

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                      • steelz09
                        Administrator
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4675

                        #12
                        I said to myself in the first quarter that the team looked flat. AGAIN! How is that possible? Every game is a must-win and you come out flat? Just poor on all accounts.

                        I'd be surprised if we finish they year with a .500 record. This coming draft will not be enough to turn this team around for the future. I'd be surprised if we reach a .500 record next year as well.
                        Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                        • Shawn
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          He hasn't had a losing season yet as head coach!
                          I am aware. Just don't think TM's job is safe if he strings two of these kinds of seasons together.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • Shoe
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4044

                            #14
                            Well, while I'm not a proponent of the bubble screen and such, I'm still a holdout for not canning Haley just yet. I hate to blame it on a lifer like Lebeau, but to me, it is fairly obvious that football coaching is not exempt from the effects of getting older. And in that regard, I'm not at all averse to older coaches sticking around and helping where they can (e.g. defensive advisor, positions coach). As a coordinator though, no one can prove to me that a 70-year old's mind can keep up with young, energetic, active minds of people much younger.

                            I hate to say it, because I have a lot of respect for Lebeau.
                            I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                            • Steel Life
                              Pro Bowler
                              • May 2008
                              • 1535

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              I am aware. Just don't think TM's job is safe if he strings two of these kinds of seasons together.
                              Why not? Cowher went 6-10 & 7-9 in consecutive seasons...with that in mind I think Tomlin is safe. However if I was Haley, I'd start ordering packing boxes.
                              Last edited by Steel Life; 10-27-2013, 11:54 PM.
                              It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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