Jones doesn't make the list

[Oviedo]

Mel Kiper's rankings of the top 35 rookies making an impact. Jarvis Jones not on the list of 35.

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[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Jones hasn't played up to his draft spot but that doesn't mean anything yet. Think fast...Play fast. I'll judge him when I think he "should" be there. I don't think we will see what Jones is truly capable of at this level until he starts to increase his playing strength. There is a really good football player there...He just needs to get a little stronger to compete at an elite level.

[SidSmythe]

Someday i'd like to draft an impact player in the middle of the first round, not a project.

[steelsnis]

Lists like this are meaningless to me until the end of the season. My guess is it will looks a lot different in January than it does now.

The bottom line is, the Steelers have 4 rookies who look like they are going to be real contributors moving forward (Jarvis Jones, Le'Veon Bell, Vince Wiliams, and Markus Wheaton).

Regardless of how they look through six games, my guess is all four of these guys are important to the team moving forward.

[Captain Lemming]

Bustamalu?

Just a guess but I doubt he would be on such s rookie list.

[Oviedo]

Jones hasn't played up to his draft spot but that doesn't mean anything yet. Think fast...Play fast. I'll judge him when I think he "should" be there. I don't think we will see what Jones is truly capable of at this level until he starts to increase his playing strength. There is a really good football player there...He just needs to get a little stronger to compete at an elite level.

Why the new standard? It has been held against Timmons for years!

[steelz09]

Long term, JJ is the least of my worries with this team.

IMO, I think he needs a year of strength training and he'll be a beast. He's having troubling fighting thru those big LTs. Also, you'll notice he's getting double teamed on several occasions. He is being matched up against most teams best o-lineman (LT).

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Why the new standard? It has been held against Timmons for years!

I can't speak for what standard you hold players to or other fans as well. That is what that ranking reflects. I never put the arrow down on Timmons and to be fair...Neither did his play. I'm sure "the experts" think Jones should have 5-6 sacks by now and since he has 0 he is a bust. The concern I saw predraft is showing on the field but so is the football mind, explosion, & instincts I knew he had. I didn't want him in the 1st because I thought he was at least a year away from being an impact player but he is here. I haven't seen anything to suggest he can't be who the Steelers think he should be. I do think it all lies on increased playing strength because hitting the field earlier rather than later should accelerate his learning curve. He has shown where his explosiveness still can make a play even at this level but I have also seen where he gets stoned. It just shows me he needs the strength to counter when that happens...In the run & pass.

[Sugar]

Lists like this are meaningless to me until the end of the season. My guess is it will looks a lot different in January than it does now.

The bottom line is, the Steelers have 4 rookies who look like they are going to be real contributors moving forward (Jarvis Jones, Le'Veon Bell, Vince Wiliams, and Markus Wheaton).

Regardless of how they look through six games, my guess is all four of these guys are important to the team moving forward.

Agreed. Heck, they have started Pro Bowl balloting already. Wouldn't it be best to wait until at least after each team has had their bye week? Maybe even wait until the end of the regular season? There is so much ball to be played that I don't get how you can make any of these choices yet.

[Oviedo]

I can't speak for what standard you hold players to or other fans as well. That is what that ranking reflects. I never put the arrow down on Timmons and to be fair...Neither did his play. I'm sure "the experts" think Jones should have 5-6 sacks by now and since he has 0 he is a bust. The concern I saw predraft is showing on the field but so is the football mind, explosion, & instincts I knew he had. I didn't want him in the 1st because I thought he was at least a year away from being an impact player but he is here. I haven't seen anything to suggest he can't be who the Steelers think he should be. I do think it all lies on increased playing strength because hitting the field earlier rather than later should accelerate his learning curve. He has shown where his explosiveness still can make a play even at this level but I have also seen where he gets stoned. It just shows me he needs the strength to counter when that happens...In the run & pass.

I agree with all you say and was being sarcastic because of the moving standard Timmons is always evaluated against. I didn't want Jarvis Jones as our #1, and still think we would be getting better production from Tyler Eifert, but I think Jones will end up being a better than average OLB.

[SidSmythe]

I agree with all you say and was being sarcastic because of the moving standard Timmons is always evaluated against. I didn't want Jarvis Jones as our #1, and still think we would be getting better production from Tyler Eifert, but I think Jones will end up being a better than average OLB.

Jones will probably be a good LB like Timmons, but like Timmons I don't think he's an OLB in the 3-4 at this level. So we have two 3-4 Bucks (or 4-3 Whips) drafted as LOLBs?? Looking at Jones' college sacks on video, I can't recall many that came from beating any LT's 1 on 1. most came from pursuit or stunts. But I want someone to show me any videos of him just plain old beating LTs 1 on 1.

[Slapstick]

This is me, not caring about October lists...

[Shawn]

Jones hasn't played up to his draft spot but that doesn't mean anything yet. Think fast...Play fast. I'll judge him when I think he "should" be there. I don't think we will see what Jones is truly capable of at this level until he starts to increase his playing strength. There is a really good football player there...He just needs to get a little stronger to compete at an elite level.

I agree. I think Jones has all the tools to be great, but needs to hit the weight room.

[SidSmythe]

I agree. I think Jones has all the tools to be great, but needs to hit the weight room.

I knew it. You are LloydDroid!!! Resistance Training or Bust!!!!

[Shawn]

Kettle Bells babay!