Ben was Ben Again

[NorthCoast]

Great and frustrating at the same time. Tacking sacks when there were easy dump-offs to the RBs, eyes always downfield for the big play.

....pretty much have learned to live with his style, although it seemed Haley reigned in him for most of the game and Ben complied.

[SteelBucks]

Finally a game winning drive. It was great to see vintage Ben again!

[grotonsteel]

Finally a game winning drive. It was great to see vintage Ben again!

+1

Throw to Moye was perfect. Unfortunately he could not hold on to it.

[Sugar]

+1

Throw to Moye was perfect. Unfortunately he could not hold on to it.

It's crazy to see the harder catch that he actually made. This one seemed so much easier in comparison- you know the kid wanted that one back.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

You know, I get the feeling that it was more than Ben complied with what he was told to do ... I kind of got the feeling (completely unjustifiably, I know, it's not like he called me up to confide) that Ben was saying ... "You know, winning is kind of nice ... and it's not like I can NEVER throw long ... this might be kind of OK after all ...".

[BlitzTo7]

You know, I get the feeling that it was more than Ben complied with what he was told to do ... I kind of got the feeling (completely unjustifiably, I know, it's not like he called me up to confide) that Ben was saying ... "You know, winning is kind of nice ... and it's not like I can NEVER throw long ... this might be kind of OK after all ...".

That's odd, considering the Steelers are 10-12 since Haley has been OC and that most of the Steelers TDs on offense were from Ben doing it his way.

[ikestops85]

That's odd, considering the Steelers are 10-12 since Haley has been OC and that most of the Steelers TDs on offense were from Ben doing it his way.

and I think that is because Ben refuses to do it Haley's way although Haley's way has shown some merit (see last year before Ben's injury). We even improved somewhat in the red zone during that time period but now we are back to Arian like production from the red zone.

[BlitzTo7]

and I think that is because Ben refuses to do it Haley's way although Haley's way has shown some merit (see last year before Ben's injury). We even improved somewhat in the red zone during that time period but now we are back to Arian like production from the red zone.

And I think that's because Ben has won two super bowls and has been to a third before Haley ever showed up. Haley's way only showed merit in the minds of delusional yinzers. The reason the offense looked respectable before Ben's injury last year is because he was playing at an MVP level on third and longs, generally because of poor play calling on the first two downs.

Ben has good reason to reject Haley's way, Haley is a moron and a puppet for Art II.

[ikestops85]

And I think that's because Ben has won two super bowls and has been to a third before Haley ever showed up. Haley's way only showed merit in the minds of delusional yinzers. The reason the offense looked respectable before Ben's injury last year is because he was playing at an MVP level on third and longs, generally because of poor play calling on the first two downs.

Ben has good reason to reject Haley's way, Haley is a moron and a puppet for Art II.

I have to correct you ... the STEELERS have won 2 SBs and been to a 3rd before Haley got there. Ben had a lot of 3rd and short before he got hurt last year ... just like he did yesterday. I'm not exactly a Haley fan but if Ben would give his system a chance it could work well for him. I'd like to find out.

[flippy]

It's crazy to see the harder catch that he actually made. This one seemed so much easier in comparison- you know the kid wanted that one back.

Hope we give him another chance because he seems to have potential. And with his size, he's at least a better decoy than Cotchery, Sanders, or Wheaton in the RZ.

[BlitzTo7]

I have to correct you ... the STEELERS have won 2 SBs and been to a 3rd before Haley got there. Ben had a lot of 3rd and short before he got hurt last year ... just like he did yesterday. I'm not exactly a Haley fan but if Ben would give his system a chance it could work well for him. I'd like to find out.

I have to correct you, the Steelers never won jack without a franchise QB.

How about instead of Haley trying to ram something down Ben's throat, how about he builds an offense to maximize Ben's strengths like other teams with franchise QBs do? I'd like to see the Steelers give adjusting to the modern NFL a chance instead of pounding their heads against a brick wall.

And saying Ben had a lot of 3rd and shorts last year is just laughable. He was considered an MVP candidate because he was bailing the offense out on third and long plays.

[NorthCoast]

I have to correct you, the Steelers never won jack without a franchise QB.

How about instead of Haley trying to ram something down Ben's throat, how about he builds an offense to maximize Ben's strengths like other teams with franchise QBs do? I'd like to see the Steelers give adjusting to the modern NFL a chance instead of pounding their heads against a brick wall.

And saying Ben had a lot of 3rd and shorts last year is just laughable. He was considered an MVP candidate because he was bailing the offense out on third and long plays.

The Steelers haven't had an OL that plays to Roethlisberger's strength for several years, that's why. Holding off blockers for 6 or 7 sec isn't their strong suit. Not sure if you noticed the games this season, but if Ben doesn't release the ball in under 3 sec, he is headed for a sack. Can only play with the players ya got,....still got Ben, but the rest of the O is far different than even 1 year ago...

[Captain Lemming]

The Steelers haven't had an OL that plays to Roethlisberger's strength for several years, that's why. Holding off blockers for 6 or 7 sec isn't their strong suit. Not sure if you noticed the games this season, but if Ben doesn't release the ball in under 3 sec, he is headed for a sack. Can only play with the players ya got,....still got Ben, but the rest of the O is far different than even 1 year ago...

Money post. Ben getting strip sacked is not playing to THE TEAM strengths. A productive run game slows the rush and Ben getting rid of the ball sooner keeps him cleaner. He can THEN take his shots effectively with less heat when he does.

[NorthCoast]

Roethlisberger's QBR in the redzone this season is the 2nd highest of his career, 106 for 5th in the NFL. If nothing else, we have to give Haley credit for this huge improvement.... but of course there will be those saying it's Ben, not Haley.

[Captain Lemming]

Roethlisberger's QBR in the redzone this season is the 2nd highest of his career, 106 for 5th in the NFL. If nothing else, we have to give Haley credit for this huge improvement.... but of course there will be those saying it's Ben, not Haley.

I bet his career high was 2007.
The last time we had a solid RUN game.
Bens career high QBR and TD passes (32) was in a season that we passed FAR LESS than we have in any year since.