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This is why a Ben trade would fetch a huge return....
If we had a Kirk Cousins waiting in the wings...hell yea..
not the case though as I see it.
The NFL doesn’t see it like that much anymore. With the recent success of young QB’s coming into the league and having immediate returns plus the fact that QB’s are far more ahead (preparation wise), of where they use to be, has many believing that the QB position can be filled in the draft.
Here is a list of QB’s who were drafted and either had immediate success or gave an immediate return of some degree.
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Matthew Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton
Andy Dalton
Colin Kaepernick
Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill
Russell Wilson
E.J. Manuel
Geno Smith
Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
I'm really trying, honest I am, but I can't get my mind around the idea of trading Ben to get better.
Trading him to get worse, yes. Not trading him and getting more out of his supporting cast and the defense to get better, yes.
"We're bad, we've got to trade to get better..." - even if true, just because we may not have anyone else good enough that another team would want to trade for, that doesn't mean it's right to trade Ben! Unless someone thinks Ben is the cause of our ills, but that is even crazier sounding to me.
Not saying the idea is definitely insane, I just can't see it.
So you propose trading your legitimate QB, and becoming one of the teams that are desperate?
$$$$$$
Dub listed all the QBs who were drafted and gave an immediate return of some degree. He didn't list all the QBs who were drafted and turned out to be duds. Too much risk for this kid ...I'd keep the proven legitimate QB.
So you propose trading your legitimate QB, and becoming one of the teams that are desperate?
Under normal circumstances, no. But this year, being one of the worst the Steelers will see in some 20-30 years, will put them in a position to reload and possibly get in position to make another long run. Sometimes you have to strike when the iron is hot. Ben will be 32 next year and will account for nearly 18,000,000 towards a cap that is projected as being the 3rd highest in 2014.
It is my personal belief that the Steelers are not one or two players away from competing for a championship. In fact I believe they are a long way away. If trading Ben Roethlisberger nets this team a Herschel Walker return, I think it is in the best interests to trade him.
When you see how desperate teams are for a QB, I do not think it would be out of the question to get a 1st, 2nd, and an elite player like Patrick Petersen back in return. And maybe even more than that.
Add this with what appears to be a top 5 pick already coming to the Steelers in this upcoming draft, and I believe the future of the Steelers is better than if they do not trade Ben this off season. Remember, the Steelers do very little to build through free agency and have several key players who may have to be cut next off season if something isnt done (Troy Polamalu, Ike Taylor, LaMarr Woodley, Lawrence Timmons, Antonio Brown, etc.), or at least be called upon to take significant pay cuts.
Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
I'm really trying, honest I am, but I can't get my mind around the idea of trading Ben to get better.
Trading him to get worse, yes. Not trading him and getting more out of his supporting cast and the defense to get better, yes.
"We're bad, we've got to trade to get better..." - even if true, just because we may not have anyone else good enough that another team would want to trade for, that doesn't mean it's right to trade Ben! Unless someone thinks Ben is the cause of our ills, but that is even crazier sounding to me.
Not saying the idea is definitely insane, I just can't see it.
I'm not crazy about it either. And if you followed me from way back in the Tribe days, I am one of the biggest Ben supports there is. But as I have said, I would only do this if it nets a Herchel walker return. No other way.
And as much of Ben Roethlisberger that I am, I am a bigger Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I see this as the quickest way for the Steelers to turn things around. There is talk that there could 5 to 7 QB's taken in this upcoming drafts first round. And if you've been a Steeler fan as long as I have, then 1983 tells you what not having foresight can do to a franchise.
Terry Bradshaw and Dan Marino. Remember that?
Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
Dub listed all the QBs who were drafted and gave an immediate return of some degree. He didn't list all the QBs who were drafted and turned out to be duds. Too much risk for this kid ...I'd keep the proven legitimate QB.
Go back the past 9 years. Never, ever, has there been this many QB's drafted who have come into the league and made immediate impacts. But to your point, the amount of 1st and 2nd rounders who were expected to be good in the NFL, and what they have meant to many franchises, out weigh those who didn't pan out.
Look at it yourself.
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Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
Ok, your idea on how this team makes another super bowl run? This team is bad on both sides of the ball. It is void of any real play makers. And it is going to have to cut more this next off season than it adds.
But you are speaking with your heart and not your head. Because to the Indianapolis Colts this some what similar scenario proved to make a lot of sense. And as a result they will compete for another 10-12 years.
Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
certainly not by trading away our franchise QB who is currently still in his prime...
Well I would only trade him if it were a Hershel Walker return. A trade that helped propel the Cowboys into 3 time Super Bowl Champions. 4 of the picks the Cowboys got for Walker were used to draft Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson. Plus they got tow solid starters in Jesse Soloman and Issaic Holt.
Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....
1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
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