No more flips into ez

[Ghost]

Aaron Rodgers doing his championship belt move is so black.

If you are going to use that as your example, please get it right - it's the discount double check move....

And feltdizz, you kid, there, get off my lawn....

[feltdizz]

Yeah, because Philip Rivers and his black self need to stop his "look at me" antics ... Clay Mathews Jr. too. And while we're at it, let's tell Tom Brady he's too white bread for his antics and so on, and so on and so on.

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I see you Jordy Nelson ... Celebrating like a black boy .. Stop that this instant!

"Black Culture" ... don't know whether to shake my head or just laugh.

He's no HEATH

[feltdizz]

If you are going to use that as your example, please get it right - it's the discount double check move....

And feltdizz, you kid, there, get off my lawn....

wow.. that move got him a nice check. Hmm...

[feltdizz]

If you are going to use that as your example, please get it right - it's the discount double check move....

And feltdizz, you kid, there, get off my lawn....

wait a minute... you mean to tell me you can get paid for having a signature move? Aaron Rodgers is so gangster... I bet he can dance his azzz off.

[DukieBoy]

If Harry Reid does a full forward flip on the Senate floor, then we know this stuff has gone too far.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Say what you want regarding my comment, and feel free to paint me as some sheet wearing racist if you feel you must, but I simply pointed something out I feel is a culture thing. If you see no difference between a guy doing a hand gesture after a TD and a guy doing full on front flips after a TD, or a guy doing nothing after an 8 yard first down vs. a guy stomping down field away from his team holding the ball out and going nuts for a simple first down then that is fine. There is a difference between celebrating in a normal manner at an appropriate time, and going completely over the top, and I think that is pretty apparent. I'd say I'm a realist, not a racist.

Pointing out Jordy Nelson as a white dude that celebrates does nothing to disprove my statement. Ever hear of Eminem? Roll on up to Ross Park Mall on any given Saturday and I'll gladly point out half a dozen white kids walking around with their hats on cock-eyed with their pants sagging below their butts speaking in a manner that makes Lil' Wayne sound like James Earl Jones. White people do jump on in to trends that start as black culture whether its actions, clothing choices, rap, or rock n' roll.

[feltdizz]

Say what you want regarding my comment, and feel free to paint me as some sheet wearing racist if you feel you must, but I simply pointed something out I feel is a culture thing. If you see no difference between a guy doing a hand gesture after a TD and a guy doing full on front flips after a TD, or a guy doing nothing after an 8 yard first down vs. a guy stomping down field away from his team holding the ball out and going nuts for a simple first down then that is fine. There is a difference between celebrating in a normal manner at an appropriate time, and going completely over the top, and I think that is pretty apparent. I'd say I'm a realist, not a racist.

Pointing out Jordy Nelson as a white dude that celebrates does nothing to disprove my statement. Ever hear of Eminem? Roll on up to Ross Park Mall on any given Saturday and I'll gladly point out half a dozen white kids walking around with their hats on cock-eyed with their pants sagging below their butts speaking in a manner that makes Lil' Wayne sound like James Earl Jones. White people do jump on in to trends that start as black culture whether its actions, clothing choices, rap, or rock n' roll.

stop focusing/blaming it on race if you don't want to be viewed that way....

pointing out Jordy Nelson definitely disproves your statement and defending them like they are forced to do these moves is insane. 2 players do the same move and somehow the black guy's move is soooo much worse. LOL...

what a joke.

[feltdizz]

I guess black culture is to blame for these guys as well... I'm sorry, that's just white dudes doing "there" thing.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

stop focusing/blaming it on race if you don't want to be viewed that way....

pointing out Jordy Nelson definitely disproves your statement and defending them like they are forced to do these moves is insane. 2 players do the same move and somehow the black guy's move is soooo much worse. LOL...

what a joke.

As I said, I am talking about the inappropriate over the top celebrations after minimal acheivements. And your pointing out one crazy white dude for every 20 black dudes in the NFL here. I really don't care if you think there is no difference between black and white culturally and what they do. My opinion is that there are cultural differences. You think there is a difference between sacking the other QB and catching an 8 yard first down pass? Pointing out 5 examples of white dudes acting like 'Look at me' buttholes when I could point at 100 black dudes today is a reach. And the fact you had to dig back to the 60's, 70's, and 80's to find a handful of examples is the joke.

[feltdizz]

As I said, I am talking about the inappropriate over the top celebrations after minimal acheivements. And your pointing out one crazy white dude for every 20 black dudes in the NFL here. I really don't care if you think there is no difference between black and white culturally and what they do. My opinion is that there are cultural differences. You think there is a difference between sacking the other QB and catching an 8 yard first down pass? Pointing out 5 examples of white dudes acting like 'Look at me' buttholes when I could point at 100 black dudes today is a reach. And the fact you had to dig back to the 60's, 70's, and 80's to find a handful of examples is the joke.

pointing back to the 60's, 70's and 80's PROVES they weren't "imitating black culture"... it's just white guys doing what they felt they needed to do to hype themselves up or get endorsments. Some operate like Heath... some operate like Shockey.

and here's another news flash... there are more black players than white players in the NFL (especially at WR) so it's no surprise you see more blacks celebrating. That's like me turning on a hockey game and wondering why white guys are fighting all the time.

as far as cultural differences... maybe, but I think the real difference is white and black players in the NFL make tons of money to play a sport.. they live a very different life than most and live in a totally different culture than all of us. The chances of Keisel wearing that beard in a corporate setting is slim...

is there a difference between sacking the QB and getting a first down? Yep.. a sack on first down doesn't end a drive but Keisel can play his guitar and it's all good. Have you ever screamed "get back to the huddle" at Keisel because all he is doing is his job? Doubt it.. but let Brown get a first down and point and you lose your sh!t because he's black.

let's face you.. you opened a can of WTF with that post and not treating all these players equally is very telling.

It reminds me of a convo I had the other day with a white guy at the sports bar. He just lost his job and I was trying to hook him up with an interview because he sounded like a great salesman and we had a position open. All of a sudden he tells me he isn't a racist but hates Obama and wonders why my "brothers" were committing so much crime. I told him my "brother" graduated from the Naval Academy and works in upper management... and all of my "brothers" who I associate with work in corporate America, own homes, etc...

then I asked him what he is doing about his "white brothers" who commit crime. He had no answer... and remember, this is the guy with no job trying to tell ME about my "brothers"


I say all this because it's too easy for some to focus on a few blacks and use a broad strokes to paint every black player and then turn around and downplay the white players when they do it or act like it's "just a few"

black and white culture has nothing to do with this convo.. this is strictly about a new generation of players who celebrate because they can and some make a nice chunk of change off of there moves with endorsement deals. Its look at me nation... and it's done by all races.

[phillyesq]

Felt, we get it. You love the me first culture as exemplified by guys like Antonio Brown, who finds it imperative to make an ass out of himself whenever he gets the opportunity. Probably the worst example of the me first attitude almost hurting the team was when Santonio did his asinine point during the SB and almost didn't get back to the huddle during the hurry up.

Quite frankly, I was kind of hoping to see Sanders limp away after landing on his tailbone. Didn't want a serious injury, but he's a buffoon playing on a losing team. Maybe there is a correllation, maybe not, but now that many of the team leaders are buffoons like Brown and Sanders, the team stinks.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

pointing back to the 60's, 70's and 80's PROVES they weren't "imitating black culture"... it's just white guys doing what they felt they needed to do to hype themselves up or get endorsments. Some operate like Heath... some operate like Shockey.

and here's another news flash... there are more black players than white players in the NFL (especially at WR) so it's no surprise you see more blacks celebrating. That's like me turning on a hockey game and wondering why white guys are fighting all the time.

as far as cultural differences... maybe, but I think the real difference is white and black players in the NFL make tons of money to play a sport.. they live a very different life than most and live in a totally different culture than all of us. The chances of Keisel wearing that beard in a corporate setting is slim...

is there a difference between sacking the QB and getting a first down? Yep.. a sack on first down doesn't end a drive but Keisel can play his guitar and it's all good. Have you ever screamed "get back to the huddle" at Keisel because all he is doing is his job? Doubt it.. but let Brown get a first down and point and you lose your sh!t because he's black.

let's face you.. you opened a can of WTF with that post and not treating all these players equally is very telling.

It reminds me of a convo I had the other day with a white guy at the sports bar. He just lost his job and I was trying to hook him up with an interview because he sounded like a great salesman and we had a position open. All of a sudden he tells me he isn't a racist but hates Obama and wonders why my "brothers" were committing so much crime. I told him my "brother" graduated from the Naval Academy and works in upper management... and all of my "brothers" who I associate with work in corporate America, own homes, etc...

then I asked him what he is doing about his "white brothers" who commit crime. He had no answer... and remember, this is the guy with no job trying to tell ME about my "brothers"


I say all this because it's too easy for some to focus on a few blacks and use a broad strokes to paint every black player and then turn around and downplay the white players when they do it or act like it's "just a few"

black and white culture has nothing to do with this convo.. this is strictly about a new generation of players who celebrate because they can and some make a nice chunk of change off of there moves with endorsement deals. Its look at me nation... and it's done by all races.

Well dizz, as usual we will just disagree on this. I think we had a convo back during the gun debate thread where I was painted to be a giant racist by you as well. Better never broach the subject of players getting in off season trouble with you as its all the same...no culture involved.

Farewell - I'm leaving the MB. Don't wanna spread my race hate

[steelz09]

I don't know how anyone could support Sanders celebration.

#1 - It could have easily caused an injury

#2 - What if he dropped the ball in mid air? That would have been a fumble and it wouldn't have surprised me one bit considering Sanders has a history of dropping the ball (literally).

#3 - You are 0-4. Is that cause for celebration? You scored a TD.... wow, really impressive. That is what you are getting paid to do. It's not like he has been lighting the world on fire with his WR play and that goes for the entire offense.

Last but certainly not least, why not just score the TD and THEN celebrate by doing something with much less risk that doesn't leave an option for a penalty, fumbling or injuring yourself. It's just stupid.

[feltdizz]

Felt, we get it. You love the me first culture as exemplified by guys like Antonio Brown, who finds it imperative to make an ass out of himself whenever he gets the opportunity. Probably the worst example of the me first attitude almost hurting the team was when Santonio did his asinine point during the SB and almost didn't get back to the huddle during the hurry up.

Quite frankly, I was kind of hoping to see Sanders limp away after landing on his tailbone. Didn't want a serious injury, but he's a buffoon playing on a losing team. Maybe there is a correllation, maybe not, but now that many of the team leaders are buffoons like Brown and Sanders, the team stinks.

I don't love it but I do ACCEPT it.. that's the difference. All this "almost hurting the team is laughable" and wreaks of jealousy because these guys have talent and have fun from time to time.

I don't buy the celebrations being the reason we are losing now because Holmes did it while we were here and we won a SB with him. Holmes did it all the time and he was one of the main reasons we made it to the SB. Holmes had the clutch catch vs Baltimore in Baltimore....he sparked our win over SD with the punt return, he had the catch and run that set up the amazing TD catch.

Now that we are down this year you guys are hoping Brown and Sanders get injuries... that's crazy.

Is it a good idea to flip into the endzone? Hell no... but will I lose sleep over it or act like it's the reason we are down this year and hope they "learn a lesson" by getting hurt? Certainly not..

[feltdizz]

Well dizz, as usual we will just disagree on this. I think we had a convo back during the gun debate thread where I was painted to be a giant racist by you as well. Better never broach the subject of players getting in off season trouble with you as its all the same...no culture involved.

Farewell - I'm leaving the MB. Don't wanna spread my race hate

bringing up race and then running around acting like you are being accused of racism when confronted about a topic is cowardly. If you don't have the stones to defend your opinions on race then don't go there to begin with...