I'm sure glad..

[Keyplay1]

79 28-K.Lewis NO 5 0.10 6.2 1.24 7 9 1 0.45 0 0 3 0 1 0 1Is this the guy we're talking about here:

I have no idea what those numbers mean but the 79 at the beginning was where he was ranked after 5 games. Maybe the table was reversed like worst to best but IDTS.

Usually in stats I dig into them when I choose to and prove them wrong. This one I will leave alone.

Well okay, a quick look. He is a CB no? Then I guess defending passes would be something worth looking at. He had 3 PDF. That is 43 in the league. Over a dozen players are even ahead of him there that have only played 4 games. Ike is one of them.

stats from advancednflstats.com I won't use them anymore to evaluate CB's. For some reason they changed. They used to track times the cb was targeted and the % of passes completed. ??? They did away with that. Why? what could be more important?

But anyway whatever the reason he is ranked 79th. And just wait until he gets beat deep and costs them a game or two and the fans get on his butt, how his confidence will vanish and geez I guess he will start breaking his pool sticks and flinging his ping pong paddle or maybe just keep punching holes in walls.

I almost have a 95% agree rate with steelz09 but on this one nah! Although keeping him around for depth [c.allen was projected to win that job] I suppose would have been tolerable. But at all those millions?

[Eddie Spaghetti]

What crusade are you referring to Eddie?

steelz09 has had a hard on for ike for a long time

who the hell is gonna play CB when we dump him?

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

I disagree that Lewis isn't a Steeler because it would have cost more to sign him than the 5 year, $25.5M that he signed with New Orleans for. There was never an indication that the Steelers made a move to contact him. They seemed disinterested in retaining him, and then he signed in New Orleans - maybe for less, maybe not but irrelevant for this discussion.

He was drafted in 2009. He always showed talent but attitude got in the way. He only received one start prior to last season. He was on his way to a starting job earlier but always landed in the doghouse. He got into a fight with Antonio Brown in TC in 2010, and then in a pre-season game had two personal fouls and punched a sign and shattered glass in Denver.

I believe that the team wanted to rid itself of a certain culture and they identified Wallace and Lewis as players who they wanted gone. Lewis wanting to go home is only an issue if he turned down an offer from Pittsburgh.

[Shoe]

ike is very far down the list of this teams problems. I'm an ike homer, no problem admitting that. The guy has been one of the most underappreciated steelers of the last 20 hears, IMO. Plus he's been the consumate professional since he entered the league. I really hope they can find a spot in the organization for him in the future, I want guys like ike around.

this crusade is absurd.

He is a consummate pro, but he isn't underappreciated. And while he is down the list of problems, he has had opportunities to step up and make a play when the team needed it as a so-called leader of the defense (i.e. intercept passes that were interceptable). And he didn't step up to the plate.

That is why, while he is a very solid player and a Steeler for life, he isn't "appreciated" more outside the organization.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

I believe you're wrong about him being underappreciated.

don't really care to debate it.

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[QUOTE=Eddie Spaghetti;578511]ike is very far down the list of this teams problems. I'm an ike homer, no problem admitting that. The guy has been one of the most underappreciated steelers of the last 20 hears, IMO. Plus he's been the consumate professional since he entered the league. I really hope they can find a spot in the organization for him in the future, I want guys like ike around.

Everything you said 100% me too.

But if they wait until he needs a walker to get around to finding a replacement, like they did with Hampton and Farrior to mention a few then todays problems will seem like nothing.

[BURGH86STEEL]

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ike is very far down the list of this teams problems. I'm an ike homer, no problem admitting that. The guy has been one of the most underappreciated steelers of the last 20 hears, IMO. Plus he's been the consumate professional since he entered the league. I really hope they can find a spot in the organization for him in the future, I want guys like ike around.

Everything you said 100% me too.

But if they wait until he needs a walker to get around to finding a replacement, like they did with Hampton and Farrior to mention a few then todays problems will seem like nothing.

The organization drafts plays every year with the hopes that those players can develop into NFL caliber players. It's difficult to find adequate players that can play at a consistently high level in the NFL. It's even more difficult to replace high end starters like Hampton, Farrior, Harrison, Smith ect.

[AzStillers1989]

You and a few others are single handily muddying up the board with your bs. Ike Taylor is still a shut down corner, he's still in amazing shape and he's never been able to catch. As Chadman already said, if our defensive line or just the front seven in general could pressure the qb the turnovers would come. Stop sh.itting up the board with your bs.

I have to agree with u. Filtering through the garbage has been harder than usual since we r winless. A couple of win in a row or a good winning streak will change that(until the next loss lol..)

[Discipline of Steel]

But if they wait until he needs a walker to get around to finding a replacement, like they did with Hampton and Farrior to mention a few then todays problems will seem like nothing.

Seems to me there is a direct correlation between the presence of those you few you mentioned, plus Harrison and Foote, and our ability to defend the run. Many have stated over the past couple years that those 'old' guys should be run out of town to make room for sparkly new draft picks. How is that working out? I think the Steelers were right for holding onto those players as long as they could.