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  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    #31
    Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
    you remember "Bustamalu" as a rookie? "We should have taken Mike Doss." LMFAO
    At the time, I liked Mike Doss...

    But, I always try to hold off on second guessing the draft...especially in the first season...
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #32
      Felt, let me go a little further. The only way I see the Steelers not drafting a LT is if Teddy Bridgewater is there. IMO, he is the surest thing in this draft at QB. My only concerns with Teddy is how lanky he is, and the lack of competition he has played against. But, the guy is a strong leader, accurate, has an arm, has mobility and has a high football IQ.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #33
        Originally posted by Shawn
        Felt, let me go a little further. The only way I see the Steelers not drafting a LT is if Teddy Bridgewater is there. IMO, he is the surest thing in this draft at QB. My only concerns with Teddy is how lanky he is, and the lack of competition he has played against. But, the guy is a strong leader, accurate, has an arm, has mobility and has a high football IQ.
        I like him but the schedule this year is horrible...
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Iron City Inc.
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2013
          • 3237

          #34
          Originally posted by Shawn
          Felt, let me go a little further. The only way I see the Steelers not drafting a LT is if Teddy Bridgewater is there. IMO, he is the surest thing in this draft at QB. My only concerns with Teddy is how lanky he is, and the lack of competition he has played against. But, the guy is a strong leader, accurate, has an arm, has mobility and has a high football IQ.
          If Bridgewater is there the phone lines will be lighting up for us. That will likely not happen but if it did I would think multiple #1"s would be something we likely would not pass up.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #35
            Originally posted by Shawn
            Felt, let me go a little further. The only way I see the Steelers not drafting a LT is if Teddy Bridgewater is there. IMO, he is the surest thing in this draft at QB. My only concerns with Teddy is how lanky he is, and the lack of competition he has played against. But, the guy is a strong leader, accurate, has an arm, has mobility and has a high football IQ.
            Black coach taking black QB. I can see the Planet explode!!!!!!! Another reason for the "haters" to bash Tomlin
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • steelblood
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4166

              #36
              Originally posted by steelz09
              I think moving Jarvis inside is unnecessary. He'll be fine on the outside.

              I live in SC so obviously the Gamecocks are on TV every week. Clowney's athleticism flashes.... there is no doubt. All I'm saying is he's overrated. At this point, I still think he's a better athlete than football player. That hit on the Michigan RB turned a very good player into a Heisman "Hopeful" over night. He had VERY high expectations but I don't think his entire career proves that he's as elite as what the media makes him out to be.
              All due respect, he did more than "flash" last season. He WAS dominant. This season? I guess he has become a self-interested d-bag. I no longer want him because you know when his contract comes due, we will have similar issues (if not before).
              Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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              • steelz09
                Administrator
                • Jan 2008
                • 4675

                #37
                Originally posted by steelblood
                All due respect, he did more than "flash" last season. He WAS dominant. This season? I guess he has become a self-interested d-bag. I no longer want him because you know when his contract comes due, we will have similar issues (if not before).
                He was dominant some games and other games he just disappears. He wasn't consistent.
                Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                • NJ-STEELER
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  I 100% disagree. It's not too early to realize the Steelers at worst will be drafting in the top 15 which will land one of 4 guys projected to be franchise LT worthy. If you have a chance to grab a franchise LT, when you don't have one...you do. You don't wait til the second round as your franchise QB is taking a beating game in and game out. It might not be a sexy pick, but it will be the pick unless Brown appears to be the second coming of Orlando Pace.
                  who's the 4th

                  i know about matthews, lewan and the bama kid

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                  • NJ-STEELER
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    #39
                    Originally posted by steelblood
                    All due respect, he did more than "flash" last season. He WAS dominant. This season? I guess he has become a self-interested d-bag. I no longer want him because you know when his contract comes due, we will have similar issues (if not before).
                    i was going to go back and ask this

                    the guy was SEC defensive player of the year.

                    how many SEC D guys were drafted in the top 2 rounds last year?

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                    • NJ-STEELER
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                      If Bridgewater is there the phone lines will be lighting up for us. That will likely not happen but if it did I would think multiple #1"s would be something we likely would not pass up.
                      best case scenario is cleveland offering us an RG# type package

                      one can dream

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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #41
                        Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                        who's the 4th

                        i know about matthews, lewan and the bama kid
                        Richardson from TN to a lesser extent. Big man with good feet. He is considered the 19th best talent in the draft by CBS.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • Dee Dub
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4652

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ikestops85
                          Trade Ben ... trade Pouncey and get a franchise LT, a franchise QB, and a shutdown DB. It's easy.
                          Uhhhhhh now that mention this, I personally believe that trading just Ben could net all that and possibly more.

                          Ben to the Cardinals for their 2014 1st round pick, their 2014 2nd round pick, and CB Patrick Peterson.


                          And that could bring something like this on draft day...

                          1 (Steelers 1st rnd pick)--- Jake Matthews LT
                          1 (Arizona's 1st rnd pick)---Louis Nix NT
                          2 (Steelers 2nd rnd pick)---Jordan Matthew WR (Jerry Rice's cousin)
                          2 (Arizona's 2nd rnd pick)---AJ McCarron QB

                          Patrick Peterson---maybe the best CB in all of football

                          And the Steelers could get out of cap hell as well.
                          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                          • Dee Dub
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4652

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Rara
                            Tajh Boyd, please.
                            No way!! Steelers will never draft a read option QB.

                            I'd take AJ McCarron over any of them in this draft. That's Teddy Bridewater Marcus Marriota, Brett Hundley, Tahj Boyd, Johnny Manziel, etc., etc.
                            Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                            1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                            • Dee Dub
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4652

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              Felt, let me go a little further. The only way I see the Steelers not drafting a LT is if Teddy Bridgewater is there. IMO, he is the surest thing in this draft at QB. My only concerns with Teddy is how lanky he is, and the lack of competition he has played against. But, the guy is a strong leader, accurate, has an arm, has mobility and has a high football IQ.
                              I disagree. I think AJ McCarron is more of a sure thing. Let's see, he is on the verge of his 3rd BCS National title, good size (6ft 4 215), strong accurate arm (67.4% college career passer), great decision maker (only 11 INT's in 4 years), more game experience as a QB, more big game experience as a QB,....oh and the most important reason I think he is more of a sure thing (when it comes to the Steelers), is isnt a read option QB. The Steelers are never drafting one. AJ McCarron is pocket passer who's best passing days are ahead of him in the NFL.
                              Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                              1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                              • Dee Dub
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4652

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Shawn
                                .....But, the guy is a strong leader, accurate, has an arm, has mobility and has a high football IQ.
                                Funny thing about this Shawn, AJ McCarron is all of these thing too. Maybe not as strong an an arm Bridgewater, but scouts are saying McCarron has something that NFL teams want more than how far one can throw the ball, and that is velocity. McCarron throws the ball with a lot of torque from his body and this gives him pretty good zip on his throws. McCarron has that. And as far as the schedule McCarron has played in his 4 years at Alabama, there may not be a QB in the history of college football who has played a tougher. Same can be said ab out the number of big games he has played in.

                                Read this article from last season. It breaks down McCarron in every aspect of QBing. And if anyone has seen McCarron this year, you know has has improved a ton from even just last year. Here are a couple tid bits I especially liked...

                                In terms of velocity, McCarron looks sharp when he takes time to step into throws. He doesn't have a strong enough arm to throw with velocity off his back foot (a la [URL="http://bleacherreport.com/jay-cutler"]Jay Cutler[/URL]). McCarron is more like a light [URL="http://bleacherreport.com/eli-manning"]Eli Manning[/URL] in that if he sets up and uses his body to torque the pass, he can throw hard and fast. Mechanics are the key here more than his actual arm.

                                Through three games, there wasn't a throw that McCarron couldn't make when his mechanics were sharp. He has the physical arm strength to work in any NFL scheme—be it a short, timing-based offense or a vertical set—but his ideal pro scheme would rely more on intermediate, quick passes rather than a true vertical offense.

                                MECHANICS: 10.0/10
                                There's a bit of [URL="http://bleacherreport.com/peyton-manning"]Peyton Manning[/URL] in the way McCarron moves and throws. He's not on the same level as Manning, but you can see similarities in their movements. McCarron, like both Manning boys, has a tendency to bounce in the pocket when going through his progressions.
                                NFL coaches may want to change this—some do, others don't—but it has a very Manning-like quality to it.
                                McCarron's actual throwing motion has a nice, crisp, over-the-top motion to it. There's no wasted movement or hitches in his delivery. Clean and clear, just like you'd draw it up on paper.
                                When evaluating quarterback mechanics, I'm generally looking for three things: footwork, delivery and the shoulder-to-eyes coordination. You want all three to line up when the ball is being delivered, and McCarron does this very well. He's a natural thrower with textbook mechanics.

                                [URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1408022-breaking-down-aj-mccarrons-nfl-potential-draft-stock"]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1408022-breaking-down-aj-mccarrons-nfl-potential-draft-stock[/URL]
                                Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                                1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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