Doesn't it seems like Tomlin

[Steelhere10]

Have had back to back losing seasons but in reality the guy haven't had not one. 4 twelve win seasons in his first 7 with this season being the first time the guy have been two games under 500 in his whole Steelers coaching career. And already they been calling for his head. Now this is something to Ponder about.

[feltdizz]

Have had back to back losing seasons but in reality the guy haven't had not one. 4 twelve win seasons in his first 7 with this season being the first time the guy have been two games under 500 in his whole Steelers coaching career. And already they been calling for his head. Now this is something to Ponder about.

the standard isn't the standard when it comes to Tomlin... oh, and he has bug eyes. not sure why men are talking about the appearance of the coach but that's what's hot in these streets during a losing streak.

he also has a franchise QB.. this team should have 9 or 10 SB's... so, fire the bum. LOL...

[Sugar]

Have had back to back losing seasons but in reality the guy haven't had not one. 4 twelve win seasons in his first 7 with this season being the first time the guy have been two games under 500 in his whole Steelers coaching career. And already they been calling for his head. Now this is something to Ponder about.

People are just melting down. If Tomlin were fired he'd become the the richest new coach for somebody else as soon as the season ended. The team seems to be snakebit right now. It will turn around- not soon enough, I fear. But it will turn around.

[Jigawatts]

Bug-eyed coaches are the worst. Still don't know how he won a super bowl with those big old bug eyes.

[steelz09]

One thing to say....

Tomlin's replacements to Cowher's players. Nuff said.

It'll get worse before it gets better as the last few Cowher era players end their career (via retiring, FA, etc)

[steelz09]

Bug-eyed coaches are the worst. Still don't know how he won a super bowl with those big old bug eyes.

You would think he could actually see better with those bug eyes but instead, he doesn't appear to see anything.

[Steelhere10]

How could I forget about those big eyes smiling with co-workers. Lmao

[Steelhere10]

let's just change the thread to the big bug eyes....

[Shawn]

What I find interesting is that as soon as Tomlin loses his core of leaders developed under Cowher his team struggles for identity. His teams are more penalized and have worse turnover/takeover ratios than Cowhers, yet he is beyong reproach? I believe much of Tomlin's success was off the fumes of Cowhers talent and leaders. He did well with what was handed to him, a franchise QB and the best D in the NFL. But, he has failed to make a mark with his own players. He has failed to find real leaders within a new generation of player. That is why it's time to at least have that discussion.

My thinking? Tomlin will get one more season even if he goes 0-16.

[Steelhere10]

WOW only 8 comments regarding the truth, this must really suck...

[Shoe]

People are just melting down. If Tomlin were fired he'd become the the richest new coach for somebody else as soon as the season ended. The team seems to be snakebit right now. It will turn around- not soon enough, I fear. But it will turn around.

That might all be true, but the bottom line is that this is not a 0-4 football team. And this is the worst start for the Steelers since Richard Nixon was in office. RICHARD NIXON.

[steelz09]

What I find interesting is that as soon as Tomlin loses his core of leaders developed under Cowher his team struggles for identity. His teams are more penalized and have worse turnover/takeover ratios than Cowhers, yet he is beyong reproach? I believe much of Tomlin's success was off the fumes of Cowhers talent and leaders. He did well with what was handed to him, a franchise QB and the best D in the NFL. But, he has failed to make a mark with his own players. He has failed to find real leaders within a new generation of player. That is why it's time to at least have that discussion.

My thinking? Tomlin will get one more season even if he goes 0-16.

Hampton, Aaron Smith, Kemo, Keisel, Hoke. The Steelers spent 2 1st rounders on 3-4 DEs and NEITHER of them is better than ANY of these Cowher & Colbert picks.

A. Smith > Hood (Cowher era)
Farrior > Timmons .. so far (Cowher era)
Hampton > McLendon (Cowher era)
Kemo / Keisel > Heyward .. so far (Cowher era)
Ike > All CBs in Tomlin era (Cowher era)
Polamalu (Cowher era)
Clark (Cowher era)
Ben (Cowher era)
J. Harrison (UDFA and developed under Cowher era) <--- He should have replaced Haggans with Harrison though.
Heath (Cowher era)
Foote (Cowher era) <--- Really? We had to bring him back this year? That's embarrassing.

The list goes on and on...... Imagine how bad this team is going to be when these older Cowher players need to be replaced. We WILL be downgrading in most spots. Downgrading to an already crappy team is not going to bode well for the Steelers future. I don't expect the Tomlin & Colbert era to replace guys like Polamalu with ease but this is simply unacceptable.

Is that clear enough? Perhaps, crystal clear?

[feltdizz]

Hampton, Aaron Smith, Kemo, Keisel, Hoke. The Steelers spent 2 1st rounders on 3-4 DEs and NEITHER of them is better than ANY of these Cowher & Colbert picks.

A. Smith > Hood (Cowher era)
Farrior > Timmons .. so far (Cowher era)
Hampton > McLendon (Cowher era)
Kemo / Keisel > Heyward .. so far (Cowher era)
Ike > All CBs in Tomlin era (Cowher era)
Polamalu (Cowher era)
Clark (Cowher era)
Ben (Cowher era)
J. Harrison (UDFA and developed under Cowher era) <--- He should have replaced Haggans with Harrison though.
Heath (Cowher era)
Foote (Cowher era) <--- Really? We had to bring him back this year? That's embarrassing.

The list goes on and on...... Imagine how bad this team is going to be when these older Cowher players need to be replaced. We WILL be downgrading in most spots. Downgrading to an already crappy team is not going to bode well for the Steelers future. I don't expect the Tomlin & Colbert era to replace guys like Polamalu with ease but this is simply unacceptable.

Is that clear enough? Perhaps, crystal clear?

Crystal clear... like a crystal ball sine you already know how our current players careers will play out? You have to give Tomlin 15 years to get a fair assessment.

Pretty sure people were complaining about Cowher's guys not being as good as Noll's best players.

Chard Scott... Flowers... we had some bad players under Cowher too... and some down years but to hear you tell it we won 14 games every year with Cowher.

[NorthCoast]

One thing to say....

Tomlin's replacements to Cowher's players. Nuff said.

It'll get worse before it gets better as the last few Cowher era players end their career (via retiring, FA, etc)

Were they really Cowher's players? Seems to me there were stories that when the chance came, Cowher wanted nothing to do with the franchise QB that has brought 2 SB wins. Only the FO knows how much say the HC really has on draft day. My guess is that Tomlin has less say than you might think.

[steelz09]

Were they really Cowher's players? Seems to me there were stories that when the chance came, Cowher wanted nothing to do with the franchise QB that has brought 2 SB wins. Only the FO knows how much say the HC really has on draft day. My guess is that Tomlin has less say than you might think.

Come on man. Seriously? So, Colbert forgot how to draft in the Tomlin-era. It must be a conspiracy on Colbert's part in order to get Tomlin fired. That makes perfect sense.