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  • williar
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2008
    • 1170

    #16
    And for the record, I will take the rowdy, vocal, demonstrative leaders like Joey Porter, Greg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, James Harrison, Bettis, Ward, etc. over the church-mouse types like Heath and Troy any day of the week. If we had someone like JP on this team now, I bet we wouldn't be 0-4.

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    • flippy
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #17
      At least Brown's doing things worth celebrating. Everyone else can celebrate all they want as far as I'm concerned if they play like Brown. I'm just bummed no one else is playing well enough to celebrate anything.
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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #18
        We need someone who can find the endzone. Hopefully, Miller and Bell are those guys because it sure isn't Brown.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • flippy
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 17088

          #19
          Originally posted by Shawn
          We need someone who can find the endzone. Hopefully, Miller and Bell are those guys because it sure isn't Brown.
          I think Ben just needs to trust Brown more and throw it up and give him a chance. If Ben didn't have to wait until guys were wide open, we'd be seeing a young Steve Smith in Brown. He just needs his QB to give him more chances.
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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27564

            #20
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            How soon everyone forgets when they want to find a reason not to like a player. Exactly right about Bettis high stepping. Where was all the righteous indignation after he did that almost every good gain? Brown isn't dancing around he is just pointing downfield and dropping the ball.

            Is this a real issue or the fact Brown got the contract and Wallace didn't?
            Good question.. those first down gestures are to spite the other teams fans.. but unfortunately we have a few of our own who take those antics personally.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27564

              #21
              Originally posted by Eich
              I'm not sure where you're coming from exactly. The best teams in the league have Heath Miller types. You don't see Wes Welker "ball-dropping" after every first down. And if it makes sense for anyone to do it, it's a guy who's on a winning team.

              I like AB and I don't want to see him leave because of the antics. He's a gamer and seems to be stepping his game up on a team that's been playing bad. I'd just like to see him grow up a little. Celebrating can be good when it's done to fire up your teammates. But AB seems to be more interested in looking for a camera than looking to pickup his teammates.

              Speaking of firing up your teammates, someone needs to be in Adams' ear hole. I don't recall ever seeing a lineman stand out in such a bad way. If ever there was a time for Ben to scream at somone, Adams has earned it. He looks like he was just stabbed last week.
              screw welker... he talks trash just like the rest of them.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27564

                #22
                Originally posted by papillon
                I'm well on my way to other activities than professional sports, maybe Taylor is a bad example but you get the idea. Take the 70s teams, who thought they were all that and celebrated after every 5 yard catch, sack, fumble recovery, interception like they won the Super Bowl? Bradshaw? Blount? Ham? Lambert? Russell? Franco? Swann? Stallworth? Webster? Greene? Greenwood? Really, the greatest team of all time and they went about their business like professionals, I miss them.

                This year's team is bad, you'd think AB did something of note every time he makes a catch, when in reality, he's doing what he's paid to do.

                0-16 with a team full of Heaths, highly unlikely, he's a top 10 player at his position and if the team had even close to the top 10 talent at every position (a team full of Heaths) they would be contenders every year, not 0-16.

                I am "get off my lawn", the lack of respect shown by young adults today is alarming to us "get off my lawn" generation folks, sorry that having a little respect for people is such a daunting task in today's world and today's sports world.

                Pappy
                respect for today's sports world? The hypocritical sports world who fines every other hit but still has greatest hits DVD's? The sports world that makes millions..billions.. off of athletes and sells their "antics" to EA sports?
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • Ghost
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6413

                  #23
                  If Adams made just one block; I'd be OK if he did a little dance. Hell, he could bust out the worm if the RB got 2 yards behind one of his blocks.
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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    How soon everyone forgets when they want to find a reason not to like a player. Exactly right about Bettis high stepping. Where was all the righteous indignation after he did that almost every good gain? Brown isn't dancing around he is just pointing downfield and dropping the ball.

                    Is this a real issue or the fact Brown got the contract and Wallace didn't?
                    I could care less who got the contract and who didn't, I would rather have Wallace (and, I hated the way he half-@ssed it last year) than Brown, I don't mind Brown, I think he's a good receiver and he's one of the few Steelers actually earning a pay check. That doesn't mean I have to like his antics and if he were to walk there would be another self-absorbed WR to fill his void. WRs are a dime a dozen, every team has one or two good receivers, what isn't a dime a dozen are quality tackles, guards and centers, the Steelers are lacking at the tackle position and possibly the guard position and hence the biggest reason for the debacle that is called the Pittsburgh Steelers 2013 football team.

                    Along with below average tackles, the Steelers also have below average DEs and NTs and this is probably the second biggest reason for the 2013 debacle. You can't win football games with below average linemen, you control nothing if your linemen are always getting beat, see 0-4 Steelers and Giants.

                    Pappy
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                    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #25
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      respect for today's sports world? The hypocritical sports world who fines every other hit but still has greatest hits DVD's? The sports world that makes millions..billions.. off of athletes and sells their "antics" to EA sports?
                      Poor grammar on my part, I should have ended the sentence after "in today's world."

                      I am "get off my lawn", the lack of respect shown by young adults today is alarming to us "get off my lawn" generation folks, sorry that having a little respect for people is such a daunting task in today's world.

                      Pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        #26
                        Antonio Brown, IMO, can do whatever he wants as long as he produces and doesn't draw Unsportsmanlike Conduct flags...

                        I don't think that making the first down signal and dropping the ball has any effect on how a player performs...I don't think Heath is a better player because he foregoes that...Heath is a good player because he's Heath...

                        Now, if it's annoying for you to watch, that's your opinion...
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          Antonio Brown, IMO, can do whatever he wants as long as he produces and doesn't draw Unsportsmanlike Conduct flags...

                          I don't think that making the first down signal and dropping the ball has any effect on how a player performs...I don't think Heath is a better player because he foregoes that...Heath is a good player because he's Heath...

                          Now, if it's annoying for you to watch, that's your opinion...
                          Yup, I've always thought you should actually accomplish something before you tell everyone how good you are, as I've admitted, I'm old school and don't deny it. The game has passed me by a long time ago.

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • Jigawatts
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 2639

                            #28
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Yup, I've always thought you should actually accomplish something before you tell everyone how good you are, as I've admitted, I'm old school and don't deny it. The game has passed me by a long time ago.

                            Pappy
                            I'm a little old timey myself Pap, and I think the guy looks like a moron when he does that every... single... time he gets a first down. Hey, I like A. Brown. I enjoy the td dances, wish I could see more of them. But for the love of whatever God you pray to, when you get a first down just act like you've done it before. As a fan, I think it's an embarrassment that this guy is representing my team like that.
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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27564

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jigawatts
                              I'm a little old timey myself Pap, and I think the guy looks like a moron when he does that every... single... time he gets a first down. Hey, I like A. Brown. I enjoy the td dances, wish I could see more of them. But for the love of whatever God you pray to, when you get a first down just act like you've done it before. As a fan, I think it's an embarrassment that this guy is representing my team like that.
                              I'm more embarrassed that some fans take themselves so seriously they can't enjoy a player making a first down for the team he roots for...
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                #30
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                I'm more embarrassed that some fans take themselves so seriously they can't enjoy a player making a first down for the team he roots for...
                                Yes to this. Is it really an issue?
                                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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