Did Ben throw this game?

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Actually, the interior of the line, while not flawless, was at least decent.

I was watching the NFL Network breakdown following the game, and they were saying the interior of the line was the biggest part of the problem, allowing pressure on Ben up the middle all game long.

[7 UP]

We got beat up the middle. We got beat outside. The lines problems are bigger than just the tackles.

[papillon]

We got beat up the middle. We got beat outside. The lines problems are bigger than just the tackles.

This is what I was mentioning in another thread, Ben can't even rely on the pressure coming form the same place two consecutive plays, let alone rely on the line to actually give him a second or two and when they do provide time he's probably shocked. The line is so bloody erratic that it makes for near impossibility to play behind it. At least, if one side could play consistently okay Ben can worry about the other, but he needs to look and see where the jail break will come from before he can even begin to read routes. It's a mess up front and what's with rotating Beachum and Gilbert? At first, I thought, good they made a decision right or wrong they've benched Gilbert, then I look up on the next play or series and he's in the GD game. WTF?

Pappy

[Slapstick]

Ben missed plenty of passes over the last two games especially...

Ben can easily protect himself by completing some of those passes...

[steelz09]

Ben didn't throw the game but he looked like crap for the 2nd week in a row.

The o-line wasn't that bad and they weren't that good. There is no excuse for Ben including the normal scapegoats (i.e. Haley and o-line).

[steelz09]

Are you referring to Brown's first TD that was a "pass of faith" and very easily could have been Ben's 5th turnover?

[steelz09]

Huh? I'm pretty darn sure that was more like a "pass of faith" / jump ball and Brown was able to make a nice catch. Very easily could have been Ben's 5th TO considering the jump ball was to a 5'10 WR.

[Captain Lemming]

The first one of the night. Down the sidelines. That throw was a rope. Sort of like the one Brown caught against the Ravens in the 2011 playoffs.

Cotchery and Sanders don't have the speed to go deep. They are more quick than fast, and Heinz Field's crap surface doesn't help them either.

The TD? Ben had time to plant, and throw, and it had plenty on it. It usually does when he can set his feet and fire.

This is true. I will agree on this criticism of Haley.
Dude needs to give up on sending the deep routes to Sanders.

Brown rightly complained and Haley started giving him more opportunities and Brown has produced.
Sanders runs good inside routes, that should be how he is used.

[steelz09]

It wasn't under thrown. I mean if we are going to start judging throws now then Kurt Warner and his prayers to Larry Fitzgerald must also be held in the same context. correct?

If passes of faith are now a bad thing? Then kick Terry Bradshaw, who made a career of it, out of Canton.

Oh god... now we're comparing Brown to Larry Fitzgeralds and Lynn Swann.

Maybe we'll be able to get a player like that with our likely top 5/top 10 pick in the 2014 draft.

[Captain Lemming]

Ben did not throw the game, that is ridiculous.

[pittpete]

I stopped reading when you said the O-line wasn't that bad.
This O-line is pitiful. Make all the excuses you people want.
No time to gel
Playing out of position
Very young
Injuries
Blah,blah,blah
It's bad, very bad.
2nd O-line coach in how many years?
I don't have the answers and neither do the Steelers

[PlanetSteelersNumber1Fan]

And then they work on things all summer, and then scrap it when one player got hurt.

So because Chubbs Peterson didn't want to miss Happy Hour he was ill-prepared for the possibility, that an injury prone player could get hurt.

I bet Arians is at fault for that.

[Dee Dub]

I was watching the NFL Network breakdown following the game, and they were saying the interior of the line was the biggest part of the problem, allowing pressure on Ben up the middle all game long.

Why some of you need to hear this from a bunch of experts and not be able to see this yourself is beyond me. The NFL Network guys weren't on the field during the game. They were watching it on a television.

What do you guys do when you watch these games?

[Dee Dub]

I stopped reading when you said the O-line wasn't that bad.
This O-line is pitiful. Make all the excuses you people want.
No time to gel
Playing out of position
Very young
Injuries
Blah,blah,blah
It's bad, very bad.
2nd O-line coach in how many years?
I don't have the answers and neither do the Steelers

Yep Pete!!! This is by far the worst O-line in the league.

[Elitestatusplease]

I wish the Steers would trade for Manning or Brady so you fools can see the problem isnt the line. Its Ben. Not all Ben but MOSTLY Ben. Funny the "BAD LINE" crap didnt start until Ben started playing. Maddox nor Kordell are any good and worse than Ben but they had time to throw? Worth noting, Maddox played behind the same line as Ben and not a peep of a "BAD LINE". So did Dixon, Lefwich and Batch in Ben's absence and the line never looked like it does for Ben. In fact Dixon passed 27 times vs the Ravens and wasnt sacked once. Batch threw over 30 times n 07 and wasnt sacked once vs the Ravens. How come Ben is the only one in 5, 6,7, 8 sack games?

In 08 Ben is sacked 8 times. Enter Leftwich and he leads us down the field beating Jimmy Johnsons blitz time after time. How about against the Skins and Ben plays the whole 1st half and is sacked galore. Ben gets hurt and Lefty (who sucks by the way. I'm critical of Ben but Ben does not suck) comes in for the 2nd half and the sack issue is miraculously gone as he hits Nate on a bomb and audibles to Tone for a TD.

More proof that the line problem is Ben and not on the line. Not totally absolving the line of any guilt but you guys want the line to play perfectly but dont hold #7 to the same standard. Sheer hypocrisy and bias