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  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    #31
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    For the last time.. Max almost got Rivers killed a few times in preseason... look at the Chicago preseason highlight vs the Chargers. Part of the reason he looked good here is because Ben is a magician.
    Who cares about what he did in SD for a couple of preseason games. He played for the Steelers for 8 years and you want to refence a couple preseason games?

    Starks was clearly our best o-lineman last year. He's not that bad of a LT and didn't play bad for the Steelers considering Ben takes an eternity to get rid of the ball.

    The only reason Starks isn't on the team is that Tomlin has some type of issue with him. I don't know what it is... but it's obvious. Tomlin has beeing trying to replace him for years and he couldn't. Tomlin's stubborness and his unwillingness to bring back Starks has hurt this team.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #32
      Originally posted by steelz09
      Who cares about what he did in SD for a couple of preseason games. He played for the Steelers for 8 years and you want to refence a couple preseason games?

      Starks was clearly our best o-lineman last year. He's not that bad of a LT and didn't play bad for the Steelers considering Ben takes an eternity to get rid of the ball.

      The only reason Starks isn't on the team is that Tomlin has some type of issue with him. I don't know what it is... but it's obvious. Tomlin has beeing trying to replace him for years and he couldn't. Tomlin's stubborness and his unwillingness to bring back Starks has hurt this team.
      dude... obviously SD cared and this is why they cut him. He wasn't coming back and IMO he is done.. being the best OL on our team means nothing...
      our problems are bigger than Starks.
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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #33
        Originally posted by Vader
        According to Bob Labriola Haley doesn't decide who the WRs are on the field. He said Tomlin does that. So that would mean Tomlin was sending in players that he wanted on the next play. He said Haley just calls the plays.
        That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a minute if it's true... why the hell is Tomlin calling sub packages if he isn't calling the plays? Not sure about this one because it seems like Tomlin would handcuff OC's on what plays they can call. He may decide the depth chart before the game but I would be shocked and saddened if this is true.
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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #34
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          Originally posted by feltdizz
          dude... obviously SD cared and this is why they cut him. He wasn't coming back and IMO he is done.. being the best OL on our team means nothing...
          our problems are bigger than Starks.
          That's not the point. The point is, he played above average for us. Starks wasn't the problem. He could step in and be a better LT than Adams immediately. Adams could move to RT and perform better than Gilbert immediately. That improves 2 positions almost instantly and it could have been done cheaply. Instead, Tomlin is continuing his grudge on Starks and it's hurting this team and likewise, hurtining his chances of being back in Pittsburgh for the 2014 season.

          By the way, you do realize that Starks is only 31 years old? How is that "done"? lol.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #35
            Or, perhaps Starks sucks, now...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • steelz09
              Administrator
              • Jan 2008
              • 4675

              #36
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              Or, perhaps Starks sucks, now...
              He regressed that much in 1 year? Doubtful. He's worse than our Tackles? Doubtful.

              He's worse than Guy Whimper (our #1 tackle backup)? HELL NO.
              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #37
                You never know. Players can certainly regress very quickly...I'm seeing it on our team right now...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Steelhere10
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3849

                  #38
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a minute if it's true... why the hell is Tomlin calling sub packages if he isn't calling the plays? Not sure about this one because it seems like Tomlin would handcuff OC's on what plays they can call. He may decide the depth chart before the game but I would be shocked and saddened if this is true.
                  I serious doubt that is true. In Haley interview with David Todd Haley said the opposite instead he said the the RB and WR Coach help him with that.
                  [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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                  • NorthCoast
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26636

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    After you call a zone play and your prized 1st round draft pick ends the season of your prized All-Pro Center, I would perhaps be reluctant to go back to that well...apparently, the scheme was not being followed by Pouncey or DeCastro...
                    I agree.

                    and this as well:
                    " Or the current linemen aren't as effective as their predecessors.
                    How was it that previous Steelers offenses ran successfully regardless of the other teams defense? Now I will agree that the current OL crop probably isn't built to run block like the days of old...

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                    • Vader
                      Backup
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 289

                      #40
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a minute if it's true... why the hell is Tomlin calling sub packages if he isn't calling the plays? Not sure about this one because it seems like Tomlin would handcuff OC's on what plays they can call. He may decide the depth chart before the game but I would be shocked and saddened if this is true.
                      That's what he said. It isn't about the depth chart because Bob was answering a question about not getting Wheaton on the field. He said the reason Wheaton wasn't on the field was because Tomlin decides the player groups and Haley calls the plays.

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                      • Ernie
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 8470

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Starlifter
                        did anyone besides me laugh when gilbert was quoted as saying "we're known as a power running team"? maybe he was referring to the DE's that keep running over him.
                        I'd call this year's OL alot of things, but definitely not a power running team lol.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27531

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Steelhere10
                          I serious doubt that is true. In Haley interview with David Todd Haley said the opposite instead he said the the RB and WR Coach help him with that.
                          it doesn't make sense...

                          well, it made a little sense because we look horrible on O and take forever to hike the ball. LOL...

                          but Tomlin calling sub packages sounds suspect.
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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27531

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Vader
                            That's what he said. It isn't about the depth chart because Bob was answering a question about not getting Wheaton on the field. He said the reason Wheaton wasn't on the field was because Tomlin decides the player groups and Haley calls the plays.
                            Tomlin may decide player groups when game planning but during the game? No.. don't believe it at all.
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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #44
                              Originally posted by steelz09

                              That's not the point. The point is, he played above average for us. Starks wasn't the problem. He could step in and be a better LT than Adams immediately. Adams could move to RT and perform better than Gilbert immediately. That improves 2 positions almost instantly and it could have been done cheaply. Instead, Tomlin is continuing his grudge on Starks and it's hurting this team and likewise, hurtining his chances of being back in Pittsburgh for the 2014 season.

                              By the way, you do realize that Starks is only 31 years old? How is that "done"? lol.
                              above average? Nah.. and age has nothing to do with him being done.
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                              • Shoe
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 4044

                                #45
                                I read an article, where Haley said he wouldn't be averse to replacing Adams or Gilbert for Beachum. I'm happy to see that. In terms of Starks, it is moot anyway--he's off the market.
                                I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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