How could Colbert and Tomlin have passed on DeAndre Hopkins?

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  • WRsAreEssential
    Rookie
    • Sep 2013
    • 12

    How could Colbert and Tomlin have passed on DeAndre Hopkins?

    Is there anyone who thinks that this is even defensible?

    On draft night, I wanted the Steelers to select either Hopkins or Justin Hunter of Tennessee, or both. I think Jarvis Jones is very talented and a very good football player, but I don't see how he was even close to being as needed as a serious wide receiver threat. Hopkins is a stud and is already stealing some of Andre Johnson's thunder. His catches at the end of the Texans game yesterday were phenomenal.

    AND HE WAS ON THE BOARD FOR THE STEELERS AT 17!

    Colbert looks very silly for having passed on him. In fact, the Steelers could have taken Hopkins there and also traded up to take Hunter. They would have had a fabulous duo for years to come that way.

    But, to the point, Hopkins was terrific for Clemson last year and there was no excuse for the Steelers to pass on him. Hopkins will very likely be the rookie of the year on offense this season. Colbert looks very silly right now for not drafting him. The guy is an elite talent. And so is Justin Hunter. How can you not draft at least one of these guys? How could you not trade up to draft both frankly? They could have easily taken Hopkins at 17 and then moved up to the late first round to nab Hunter.

    Roethlisberger would be lighting it up right now with those two weapons at his disposal.

    DeAndre Hopkins highlights:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWm9pNiXYY[/url]

    Justin Hunter highlights:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6GXID2dXk[/url]
  • Shoe
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4044

    #2
    Because Jarvis Jones was presumably a Top 10 talent on their board, and this team (obviously) isn't in position to pass up the BPA, to satisfy needs as defined by WRsAreEssential.
    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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    • WRsAreEssential
      Rookie
      • Sep 2013
      • 12

      #3
      Originally posted by Shoe
      Because Jarvis Jones was presumably a Top 10 talent on their board, and this team (obviously) isn't in position to pass up the BPA, to satisfy needs as defined by WRsAreEssential.

      DeAndre Hopkins was also easily a "Top 10 talent", and he met far more of a need for the team than Jarvis Jones did. A linebacker group with Woodley and Timmons is far better than a receiving group of two little 5-9/5-10 guys.

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      • steelz09
        Administrator
        • Jan 2008
        • 4675

        #4
        I wanted to draft Hopkins in the 2nd but that didn't happen because he didn't make it that far.
        Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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        • WRsAreEssential
          Rookie
          • Sep 2013
          • 12

          #5
          Originally posted by steelz09
          I wanted to draft Hopkins in the 2nd but that didn't happen because he didn't make it that far.


          Why not the first? He was clearly far more of a need than Jones was (and I am saying this as someone who thinks very highly of Jones).

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          • OtisCampBellHaley
            Banned
            • Sep 2013
            • 7

            #6
            They needed Jarvis Jones. Who then gets pulled for Jason Worilds, who when he has subbed for Jones the defense has given up 3 TD's.

            Poorly drafted team, poorly coached team, unqualified person running their offense.

            0-2, and 8-10 in the era of Art Rooney II football.

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            • Shoe
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4044

              #7
              Originally posted by WRsAreEssential
              DeAndre Hopkins was also easily a "Top 10 talent", and he met far more of a need for the team than Jarvis Jones did. A linebacker group with Woodley and Timmons is far better than a receiving group of two little 5-9/5-10 guys.
              You are delusional dude. He was not rated in the area where Jarvis was (until his 40). YOU personally, may have wanted Hopkins all along... and if that's the case, fine. But don't go making things up. You can't criticize the team for taking the BPA on their board.
              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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              • skyhawk
                Hall of Famer
                • Dec 2008
                • 3732

                #8
                Because this team is delusional in thinking Brown and Sanders are a solid starting duo, that's why.

                Jones is a beast to be sure. But WR wasn't even in the area code in round 1.

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                • Shawn
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15131

                  #9
                  They drafted Jones because he is an all around better talent. Jones is special.
                  Trolls are people too.

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #10
                    Originally posted by skyhawk
                    Because this team is delusional in thinking Brown and Sanders are a solid starting duo, that's why.

                    Jones is a beast to be sure. But WR wasn't even in the area code in round 1.
                    Now that I agree with. Brown and Sanders are good 2 and 3...but mediocre 1/2.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      Now that I agree with. Brown and Sanders are good 2 and 3...but mediocre 1/2.
                      QFT, as fans we're seeing the affect that Wallace actually had on this offense with his ability to force coverage to his side of the field, regardless of whether or not he could battle for a ball in the air, typically, he just ran past everyone and didn't have to battle for the ball. Sanders and Brown were the beneficiaries of Wallace's ability to change a defense.

                      I wasn't upset when Wallace left for greener pastures, but we are seeing the affect.

                      Pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        QFT, as fans we're seeing the affect that Wallace actually had on this offense with his ability to force coverage to his side of the field, regardless of whether or not he could battle for a ball in the air, typically, he just ran past everyone and didn't have to battle for the ball. Sanders and Brown were the beneficiaries of Wallace's ability to change a defense.

                        I wasn't upset when Wallace left for greener pastures, but we are seeing the affect.

                        Pappy
                        I agree, Pappy. I don't care for Wallace, and I'm fine with him being gone. But I thought all along that the offense would miss what he brought, and it does.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27532

                          #13
                          Originally posted by phillyesq
                          I agree, Pappy. I don't care for Wallace, and I'm fine with him being gone. But I thought all along that the offense would miss what he brought, and it does.
                          but we have Wheaton... while not as fast you can still use him to stretch the field instead of using Sanders who doesn't have the size.

                          Doesn't matter who we picked in round 1 at WR because Haley wouldn't use them to open things up.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • phillyesq
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            but we have Wheaton... while not as fast you can still use him to stretch the field instead of using Sanders who doesn't have the size.

                            Doesn't matter who we picked in round 1 at WR because Haley wouldn't use them to open things up.
                            I still think the same thing about Wheaton now as I did before - he is a Brown/Sanders type, but not somebody that defenses need to worry about.

                            He could be an improvement over Cotchery, but he is a 3 or a 2, at best, like the rest of the Wrs on this team.

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                            • papillon
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11340

                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              but we have Wheaton... while not as fast you can still use him to stretch the field instead of using Sanders who doesn't have the size.

                              Doesn't matter who we picked in round 1 at WR because Haley wouldn't use them to open things up.
                              We may have Wheaton, but if he isn't on the field he isn't stretching anything. Tomlin should have taken Haley's headset from him last night, the offensive game plan, the plays and personnel packages were things that I noticed and the highest level of football I played was 9th grade. My wife asked me why in the world we would run the ball three times to start the game and she never played football. It looked like Pop Warner football on offense.

                              Oh and my favorite Todd Haley moment was slowing down Ben after the Paulson fumble which allowed Lewis to toss the challenge flag.

                              It's getting harder and harder to support Haley and Tomlin for that matter.

                              Pappy
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                              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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