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  • SteelBucks
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 8075

    #16
    The lack of a running game is killing the offense by making it one dimensional. I still think Heath will help improve the line and also help free up the WR's. But let's also face the facts that the Steelers haven't had a power running game in years.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #17
      Originally posted by steelz09
      Ben has a lot more WR talent than a lot of other teams....especially the 2-0 Patriots.
      Pats D has TO's... that helps an offense who is struggling. Pats arent good on offense either.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • steelz09
        Administrator
        • Jan 2008
        • 4675

        #18
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Pats D has TO's... that helps an offense who is struggling. Pats arent good on offense either.
        Always excuses for this team...... as the L's keeping adding up and adding up. That's ok... we'll turn into the Browns but hell, we have all the excuses in the world as to why we suck.
        Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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        • fordfixer
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 10922

          #19
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Not with this o-line

          Molon labe

          People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

          ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
          Mike Tomlin

          American metal pimped by asiansteel
          Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you 1. Jesus Christ, 2.The American G.I., One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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          • skyhawk
            Hall of Famer
            • Dec 2008
            • 3732

            #20
            Come on. Ben drives them down the field from his 4 yard line and Paulson fumbles.

            Ben drives them down and they get a BS tripping call. That's tough to overcome.

            Ben did have the pick late in the game and it was a poor throw. But if I were Ben I would be pissed. And he looked like it through most of the game with all of the gaffes by his teammates and coaches.

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            • steelz09
              Administrator
              • Jan 2008
              • 4675

              #21
              Originally posted by skyhawk
              Come on. Ben drives them down the field from his 4 yard line and Paulson fumbles.

              Ben drives them down and they get a BS tripping call. That's tough to overcome.

              Ben did have the pick late in the game and it was a poor throw. But if I were Ben I would be pissed. And he looked like it through most of the game with all of the gaffes by his teammates and coaches.
              Ben did not have a good game at all. I expect much better from a 100 million dollar QB.
              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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              • Steelhere10
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3849

                #22
                Ben was very inconsistent BUT I personally think it's coming from frustration of the little league playcalling.
                [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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                • skyhawk
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3732

                  #23
                  Yep. I have always thought Ben should get more upset and vocal on offense.

                  Tonight was one of the few times in his career I have seen him flat out pissed.

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                  • OtisCampBellHaley
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 7

                    #24
                    Originally posted by steelz09
                    Ben did not have a good game at all. I expect much better from a 100 million dollar QB.
                    Not when they don't use him.

                    8 minutes to go in the game Ben threw 6 passes in the second half at that point.

                    Guys like you got what you wanted. The evil BA was shown the door, and Haley's committed to running the ball and putting Ben in his place.

                    And the team has won 8 games and lost 10 since.

                    Enjoy it.

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                    • Steel Life
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 1535

                      #25
                      Originally posted by skyhawk
                      Come on. Ben drives them down the field from his 4 yard line and Paulson fumbles.

                      Ben drives them down and they get a BS tripping call. That's tough to overcome.

                      Ben did have the pick late in the game and it was a poor throw. But if I were Ben I would be pissed. And he looked like it through most of the game with all of the gaffes by his teammates and coaches.
                      Well said...Ben is not the problem, the quality of the line & offensive scheme are the issue. The issues with the line being well-known & the running game in shambles, its clear that the scheme needs adjusting. When teams can generate pressure with just their front four (like the Titans & Bengals) it allows the LBs to drop into into the soft areas making the windows to throw into very small. Also, for all the speed the Steelers WRs have, they struggle to handle physical DBs...which isn't an issue when Heath is available (& Ward before), because he can fight them off & find the soft spots in the D. Now there's too many dump-offs or shallow routes that don't produce when coverage is tight. Again, I don't see Ben as the problem...I see a frustrated QB.
                      It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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                      • OtisCampBellHaley
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 7

                        #26
                        Ben can't say anything. Because if he does he's the twice accused of rape QB who's never grown up.

                        He's basically in prison. Haley's the head guardsmen, and Rooney II's the Warden.

                        And inmate Ben has to sit there and take it.

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                        • steelz09
                          Administrator
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4675

                          #27
                          Looks like we're going to have to block Crash's new IP again
                          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                          • CASteeler
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1

                            #28
                            This post is so perfect. As I'm driving home after the beagles kicked the field goal to go ahead by 10, and realized our offense has no chance of scoring 10 points, in 7 quarters let alone half of one, I was thinking, MAN I MISS BRUCE ARIANS.
                            Tomlin and Hailey are offensive, and I mean that in the most negative way possible.

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                            • skyhawk
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3732

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Steel Life
                              Well said...Ben is not the problem, the quality of the line & offensive scheme are the issue. The issues with the line being well-known & the running game in shambles, its clear that the scheme needs adjusting. When teams can generate pressure with just their front four (like the Titans & Bengals) it allows the LBs to drop into into the soft areas making the windows to throw into very small. Also, for all the speed the Steelers WRs have, they struggle to handle physical DBs...which isn't an issue when Heath is available (& Ward before), because he can fight them off & find the soft spots in the D. Now there's too many dump-offs or shallow routes that don't produce when coverage is tight. Again, I don't see Ben as the problem...I see a frustrated QB.
                              Very frustrated. I knew it was the same ol same ol tonight when they came out and RUTM on 1st and 2nd down and an incomplete pass on 3rd.

                              The O had some life each time the ball was in Ben's hands. Sure the running game sucks, but what team in the NFL has balance this day and age? It's a non issue for the Broncos and the Seahawks if they rush for less than 100 yards in a game.

                              And the two time Sanders makes great plays on the ball and makes a catch he is out of bounds. What more can a QB do? Ben's not Payton Manning but he's someone to build the O around. You can't say that for at least 25 other teams in league.

                              Then add in that the defense is inept at creating pressure (against abysmal play by Dalton) and forcing turnovers (they allow an 80yd td drive after the punt on the series there was the pathetic tripping call) you have a team that's playing poorly on BOTH sides of the ball.
                              Last edited by skyhawk; 09-17-2013, 01:40 AM.

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                              • Sword
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 2048

                                #30
                                I think he did good considering what he had for an OL and Haley's play book....
                                No other QB would have done better under the circumstances.....

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