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  • BlitzTo7
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    • Sep 2013
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    Offensive Line Could Hold Back Pittsburgh Steelers

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    Offensive line could hold back Steelers
    September, 16, 2013
    By Scott Brown | ESPN.com



    Steel City wake-up call: Morning links

    The Steelers are almost a touchdown underdog against the Bengals as they try to avoid their first 0-2 start since 2002. But it is the 0-2 start in 1989 that ESPN NFL analyst Merrill Hoge remembers all too well.

    Hoge played running back on the team that was outscored 92-10 in its first two games, and he says that coach Chuck Noll’s belief in the players -- and vice versa -- allowed the Steelers to overcome the horrendous start and make the playoffs. Mike Tomlin faces a similar challenge, especially since he is coming off his first non-winning season as the Steelers’ coach.

    History suggests that the Steelers can rise above a slow start as they also made the playoffs in 2002. But Hoge says the Steelers have to overcome more than just a bad game if they are going to right themselves.

    The Steelers have some glaring deficiencies that opposing teams will try to exploit, especially along the offensive line. That line faces a monumental task Monday in Cincinnati.

    Tomlin reiterated his commitment to establishing the run last week.

    But that may not be the way to right an offense that managed fewer than 200 total yards of total offense in a season-opening loss, and not just because the Steelers’ line and running backs are suspect.

    A look around the NFL shows that it has become a passing league, and the Steelers' best hope on offense is to put the ball in quarterback Ben Roethlisberger’s hands.

    A stout running game is strongly associated with the Steelers’ glorious past. But is the team’s commitment to it keeping the Steelers from moving forward?


    Coach speak: Steelers.com catches up with Tomlin, who (surprise, surprise) lavishes praise on the Bengals. One interesting thing the seventh-year coach shares is his take on the Steelers not forcing any turnovers in last week’s 16-9 loss to the Titans.

    Double trouble: The Patriots showed how tough it is to defend an offense that has two good tight ends, and the Bengals have two former first-round draft picks at the position in Jermaine Gresham and rookie Tyler Eifert. The two figure to be on the field against the Steelers more often than not, something that could take pressure off Pro Bowl wide receiver A.J. Green.

    The next step: Quarterback Andy Dalton has led the Bengals to the playoffs in each of his first two seasons as a starter. Dalton has set the bar higher for the Bengals -- and for himself. If he is rise to the level of elite quarterback he has to start winning in the postseason as well.
  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Really? We need offensive line help? Glad we addressed that area in the last draft! Ooops...forgot that we didn't think it was worth making another investment in the OL because of our past drafts. How's that working for us?
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Sugar
      Hall of Famer
      • Oct 2008
      • 3700

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Really? We need offensive line help? Glad we addressed that area in the last draft! Ooops...forgot that we didn't think it was worth making another investment in the OL because of our past drafts. How's that working for us?
      I'm curious as to who you would have drafted that would have helped the team? There's a lot of high-round talent on the OL, but you can't predict injuries.

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      • BlitzTo7
        Backup
        • Sep 2013
        • 218

        #4
        In regards to the OL, a lot of that can be blame on the front office. Yes, the current line has pedigree, but not enough experience. If the team wasn't in such a cap mess they could spend some money on good OL to keep Ben upright.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27531

          #5
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Really? We need offensive line help? Glad we addressed that area in the last draft! Ooops...forgot that we didn't think it was worth making another investment in the OL because of our past drafts. How's that working for us?
          wouldn't matter.. we coach our OL down.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • papillon
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 11340

            #6
            I think we'll have a good idea how the evening is going to go after the Steelers first offensive snap and if not the first, after the first three first down snaps. If the Steelers' first three 1st down snaps are runs, we can be pretty certain that it will be a long night. If 2 or 3 of the first 1st down snaps are pass plays, then the Steelers are handing the ball to Ben and saying, win the game. More runs than passes on 1st down and we get the same old, same old, more passes than runs and maybe something sank in and they realize they aren't going to be able to move the Bengal defensive front in the run game.

            Pappy
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            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Really? We need offensive line help? Glad we addressed that area in the last draft! Ooops...forgot that we didn't think it was worth making another investment in the OL because of our past drafts. How's that working for us?
              2 first rounder
              2 second rounders
              1 undrafted.

              That may be the most HIGH picks on an offensive line in the NFL. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm sure you get the point.

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              • phillyesq
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 7568

                #8
                Originally posted by Sugar
                I'm curious as to who you would have drafted that would have helped the team? There's a lot of high-round talent on the OL, but you can't predict injuries.
                An interesting question. Who would you draft, and who would you give up?

                Jarvis Jones looks like a keeper. Do you take an offensive lineman in the second? Hard to go into a season with just the slop the Steelers had at RB (and are trotting out there now). With Sanders a year away from free agency, do you pass on Wheaton? Both safeties are 30+, and we all know Troy's history. Hard to pass on Shmarko. We know that Ovi loves Landry Jones, so he stays. At this point, you are talking about a late round guy.

                It's easy to say that the Steelers should draft lineman, but they have. Gilbert played well as a rookie, and Adams played fairly well last year. DD needs to work with the rest of the line better, but individually has played pretty well.

                It is easy to say that the line stinks, but harder to find a practical solution.

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                • Jigawatts
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 2639

                  #9
                  This is news if you've been in a coma since 2006
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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #10
                    Originally posted by birtikidis
                    2 first rounder
                    2 second rounders
                    1 undrafted.

                    That may be the most HIGH picks on an offensive line in the NFL. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm sure you get the point.
                    exactly.. it's not when we draft them. It's who and how we coach them...
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      exactly.. it's not when we draft them. It's who and how we coach them...
                      Well, we've drafted two offensive linemen that have ended seasons for players, unfortunately, the players whose season's were ended were Steeler players. Can't draft them any higher than 1st and 2nd round, technically, you can draft someone higher than a second round pick, but you get what I'm saying, premium picks have been used on the offensive line. If they don't get it together then the scouting department, Colbert and Tomlin need to be scrutinized, because the Steelers are using premium picks on offensive linemen (defensive linemen as well).

                      Pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • birtikidis
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4628

                        #12
                        I wasn't a fan of Kugler. I'm hoping that we can make some progress this year.

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                        • Sugar
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3700

                          #13
                          Originally posted by phillyesq
                          An interesting question. Who would you draft, and who would you give up?

                          Jarvis Jones looks like a keeper. Do you take an offensive lineman in the second? Hard to go into a season with just the slop the Steelers had at RB (and are trotting out there now). With Sanders a year away from free agency, do you pass on Wheaton? Both safeties are 30+, and we all know Troy's history. Hard to pass on Shmarko. We know that Ovi loves Landry Jones, so he stays. At this point, you are talking about a late round guy.

                          It's easy to say that the Steelers should draft lineman, but they have. Gilbert played well as a rookie, and Adams played fairly well last year. DD needs to work with the rest of the line better, but individually has played pretty well.

                          It is easy to say that the line stinks, but harder to find a practical solution.
                          I guess that's what I was thinking too. I can understand wanting a lineman over a 3rd QB, but who were we gonna get at that point in the 4th? There is a lot of season left to be played, so I guess perhaps we can just take it a game at a time and hope that some guys get better (both physically and in skill).

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                          • 7 UP
                            Starter
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 878

                            #14
                            I LOL everytime I hear about the Steelers using high draft picks on Oline. Robert Gallery was supposed to be the greatest lineman to ever lace up a set of cleats at one time. How did his career turn out? Draft picks dont mean squat if you miss on the guys you pick. The only way to straighten this mess out is to bring in a proven vetern or two to ancor the line and add some stability. Then our young draft picks can earn their way in instead of being thrown in before they are ready.

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                            • Steeler Shades
                              Starter
                              • May 2008
                              • 724

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              ...you can't predict injuries.
                              Sure you can. I predicted that before the season started that we would have injuries (as every team does every year) and that our lack of talent/depth would be an issue. BTW - I also predicted (before the season) that some posters would AGAIN use injuries as another excuse for the Steelers mediocre season. Obviously some people CAN predict injuries!
                              Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

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