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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26643

    Continued Sissification of the NFL

    Spinning a ball in front of the defender is a penalty?!?

    Coaches whining that their 'read option' QBs are being hit too much.

    Incidental helmet contact is a personal foul?!?!

    Is this really professional football we are watching?!?
  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10940

    #2
    Originally posted by NorthCoast
    Spinning a ball in front of the defender is a penalty?!?

    Coaches whining that their 'read option' QBs are being hit too much.

    Incidental helmet contact is a personal foul?!?!

    Is this really professional football we are watching?!?
    Not any more

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    • SidSmythe
      Hall of Famer
      • Sep 2008
      • 4708

      #3
      I actually thought you were going to mention the "thunderstorm" delays in this thread. the fans are tougher than the players.
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      • birtikidis
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4628

        #4
        Well it's rare to see men in an NFL commercial. Now it's women in every one. what'd you expect? Course female fans want tougher than what Rog is giving them.

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        • papillon
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 11341

          #5
          Originally posted by NorthCoast
          Spinning a ball in front of the defender is a penalty?!?

          Coaches whining that their 'read option' QBs are being hit too much.

          Incidental helmet contact is a personal foul?!?!

          Is this really professional football we are watching?!?
          It hasn't been professional football for a few years now and it is going to get worse and IMHO, within a few generations the game will be a thing of the past. You have current players saying they won't allow their kids to play football, so even in its current softer version the players are realizing the dangers of the game.

          Pappy
          Last edited by papillon; 09-16-2013, 08:17 AM.
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          • flippy
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 17088

            #6
            I bet they once had the same conversations about the pussification of the gladiators in the roman colosseum. On a positive, it took over 200 years for these contests to fade away. So we should be ok with some version of the NFL for the rest of our lifetime.
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            • BradshawsHairdresser
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 7056

              #7
              The pussification of the NFL? The game is becoming a direct reflection of its commissioner.

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              • RussBII
                Pro Bowler
                • May 2008
                • 1006

                #8
                I honestly blame the advent of Fantasy Football for a lot of this. The NFL has read into the HUGE participation numbers for FF. Rightly or wrongly they think that fans want more scoring. So they come up with all these rules making it impossible for defenses to dominate.

                Bah!

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                • flippy
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 17088

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RussBII
                  I honestly blame the advent of Fantasy Football for a lot of this. The NFL has read into the HUGE participation numbers for FF. Rightly or wrongly they think that fans want more scoring. So they come up with all these rules making it impossible for defenses to dominate.

                  Bah!
                  I dunno. I watched the Seattle/SF game last night and Seattle's D dominated and pretty potent O. I think there's still a place for great D and the teams with the best D's will continue to win championships, even while everyone else focuses on bettering their O.
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                  • BlitzTo7
                    Backup
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 218

                    #10
                    Defense hasn't been fazed out, it's job is different. It's no longer about yards allowed, it's about forcing turnovers and putting up points or setting up the offense with a short field.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27631

                      #11
                      Originally posted by flippy
                      I dunno. I watched the Seattle/SF game last night and Seattle's D dominated and pretty potent O. I think there's still a place for great D and the teams with the best D's will continue to win championships, even while everyone else focuses on bettering their O.
                      yep.. 5-0 at halftime? Seattle put on a clinic on defense.

                      My beef is all the flags... I watched a few games yesterday and it seemed like every other incompletion has a flag.. like there has to be a reason a pass wasn't completed
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                      • Sugar
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 3700

                        #12
                        Originally posted by flippy
                        I dunno. I watched the Seattle/SF game last night and Seattle's D dominated and pretty potent O. I think there's still a place for great D and the teams with the best D's will continue to win championships, even while everyone else focuses on bettering their O.
                        That was pretty amazing. After week one, everyone spoke like CK was the new evolution in the NFL. Seattle just showed how to get it done with great D. They are going to be formidable this year.

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                        • Ghost
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6541

                          #13
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          yep.. 5-0 at halftime? Seattle put on a clinic on defense.

                          My beef is all the flags... I watched a few games yesterday and it seemed like every other incompletion has a flag.. like there has to be a reason a pass wasn't completed
                          Totally agree. Some games are almost unwatchable b/c of something being called almost every play. The flow of the game is destroyed. If not the Steelers, I've turned game off because 3 or 4 plays take 15 minutes, with a damn commercial every time a flag is thrown.
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                          • Sugar
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3700

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ghost
                            Totally agree. Some games are almost unwatchable b/c of something being called almost every play. The flow of the game is destroyed. If not the Steelers, I've turned game off because 3 or 4 plays take 15 minutes, with a damn commercial every time a flag is thrown.
                            That's why I use the DVR to instantly forward past all the junk.

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                            • papillon
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11341

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              That was pretty amazing. After week one, everyone spoke like CK was the new evolution in the NFL. Seattle just showed how to get it done with great D. They are going to be formidable this year.
                              Or, maybe Kaepernik and Wilson aren't everything the media wants them to be in their second year. They had success last year, yes, but I still have faith in defensive coordinators that given time they will come up with an answer to anything an offense wants to throw at them. I still think the read option will die on the vine as the hits pile up and defensive coordinators devise ways to stop that particular style of offense. It's not surprising (at least not to me) that the best quarterbacks in the game are drop back passers that can do one of two things read the defense quickly and make a decision or move in the pocket just enough to be able to make the final read and then a decision.

                              Even though RG III put up good numbers yeaterday, Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungy were talking about him potentially be benched if his play doesn't improve over the next game or two. Chip Kelly and his high flying circus will meet the same fate, maybe not this year, but at some point. We'll see how it all plays out.

                              Pappy
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                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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