We need to switch to passing attack

[RussianCrash]

Luck's team also made the playoffs.

WE sat at home.

[feltdizz]

A big part of the problem too, is that Ben has not developed as a passer in many ways. Check Andrew Luck and Indy, as an example. Indy has an equally bad O-line, yet they seem to (I don't watch them much) have a much better offense. Why?

Part of the reason is Luck's youthful exuberance, a la Ben in 2004--like a wild stallion. But over time, you hope that Ben develops more of a feel for passing (e.g. anticipation). Instead, after almost 10 years in the league, he still relies on his pump-faking defenses, his ability to shrug a guy off, and throwing to wide-open receivers in a scramble scenario.

nah... everyone said BA killed Luck last year.. killed him into the playoffs.

I will keep repeating this.. I'll take 4 more years of Ben getting killed into the playoffs and SB over 8 more years of less hits and subpar seasons.

For the life of me I can't fathom why we fixed what wasn't broken. Sure the O didn't win stat trophies like RZ efficiency and total points but we WON GAMES and ALWAYS had a chance for a deep playoff run.

But no..... everyone hated winning that way. Ben is broken now... he looks defeated. He knows we are wasting his time right now.

[BlitzTo7]

nah... everyone said BA killed Luck last year.. killed him into the playoffs.

I will keep repeating this.. I'll take 4 more years of Ben getting killed into the playoffs and SB over 8 more years of less hits and subpar seasons.

For the life of me I can't fathom why we fixed what wasn't broken. Sure the O didn't win stat trophies like RZ efficiency and total points but we WON GAMES and ALWAYS had a chance for a deep playoff run.

But no..... everyone hated winning that way. Ben is broken now... he looks defeated. He knows we are wasting his time right now.

Truth be told, if the Arians offense would have been better in the redzone I don't think Art II could have fired him. Instead of changing everything, the offense should have just worked on its redzone play.

[Sword]

We cannot run...we need to go 5 wide until we can prove to other
teams that we will just sit back and throw.
And then when we gain respect in the pass we will then be able to run more....

Let them stack the line.......

And for god sake when you need yards throw down the field not tot he dam line.....

I agree go with 3 wide, 1 TE and RB but still go pass heavy....

I don't see our receivers coming back for the ball when Ben is under pressure!!

I say use more of our receivers like Derek Moye ....Big target for 10-15 yard passes
He was great in preseason...

[Vader]

nah... everyone said BA killed Luck last year.. killed him into the playoffs.

I will keep repeating this.. I'll take 4 more years of Ben getting killed into the playoffs and SB over 8 more years of less hits and subpar seasons.

For the life of me I can't fathom why we fixed what wasn't broken. Sure the O didn't win stat trophies like RZ efficiency and total points but we WON GAMES and ALWAYS had a chance for a deep playoff run.

But no..... everyone hated winning that way. Ben is broken now... he looks defeated. He knows we are wasting his time right now.

They didn't win because of the offense. Ben and BA threw 40 times in the GB SB. Ben had 2 picks and one for a pick six. The stupid offense lost the game. BTW they don't sniff the SB if not for beating the Jets because of Gay picking up a fumble and getting a TD. Ben sucked by throwing 2 picks in just 19 passes. They didn't score a point in the second half. WAIT they actually did score by giving the Jets a safety (Ben fumbled the ball). That's BA ****ing offense. No points and pray the defense scores... just like the SB with AZ. They lose that game if not for Harrison.

[BlitzTo7]

They didn't win because of the offense. Ben and BA threw 40 times in the GB SB. Ben had 2 picks and one for a pick six. The stupid offense lost the game. BTW they don't sniff the SB if not for beating the Jets because of Gay picking up a fumble and getting a TD. Ben sucked by throwing 2 picks in just 19 passes. They didn't score a point in the second half. WAIT they actually did score by giving the Jets a safety (Ben fumbled the ball). That's BA ****ing offense. No points and pray the defense scores... just like the SB with AZ. They lose that game if not for Harrison.

Still better than the Haley offense.

And if you want to say "they don't win without Harrison's pick-six", then does Drew Brees with without Tracy Porter's pick-six? Does Flacco win without Jacoby Jones 108-yard kickoff return? Does Peyton Manning win his only Lombardi without a pick-six as the Colts final score in that game?

[feltdizz]

For what it's worth, Andrew Luck was sacked 41 times last season (4th most in the league), while Ben was sacked 30 times last season (tied for 14th in the league).

Of course, Luck was subjected to a season's worth of Bruce Arians 7 step drops too, so that could have something to do with it.

7 steps into to playoffs... and BA won coach of the year.

Ben is a big boy.. not sure why fans keep crying about him taking hits... they happen regardless so might as well go down field.

[feltdizz]

They didn't win because of the offense. Ben and BA threw 40 times in the GB SB. Ben had 2 picks and one for a pick six. The stupid offense lost the game. BTW they don't sniff the SB if not for beating the Jets because of Gay picking up a fumble and getting a TD. Ben sucked by throwing 2 picks in just 19 passes. They didn't score a point in the second half. WAIT they actually did score by giving the Jets a safety (Ben fumbled the ball). That's BA ****ing offense. No points and pray the defense scores... just like the SB with AZ. They lose that game if not for Harrison.

The D should play big since we gave them all the money...

No one can every say the D doesn't carry this team but it's all about complimenting the D and BA's offense and Ben's arm and feet complimented our D better than this O.

[feltdizz]

Still better than the Haley offense.

And if you want to say "they don't win without Harrison's pick-six", then does Drew Brees with without Tracy Porter's pick-six? Does Flacco win without Jacoby Jones 108-yard kickoff return? Does Peyton Manning win his only Lombardi without a pick-six as the Colts final score in that game?

that's the problem with some fans... they want us to win because of our O. I think all 3 phases are needed and its no surprise that a D that is paid top dollar, along with a HC is was a defensive coach is getting the glory most games.

[RussianCrash]

BTW they don't sniff the SB if not for beating the Jets because of Gay picking up a fumble and getting a TD. Ben sucked by throwing 2 picks in just 19 passes.

The first pick went through Mendy's hands against the Jets, but YOU are going to be taken to Context School. Pull up your desk and say "Hi" to Slap and Lemming, they are sitting right next to you.

Ben Roethlisberger scores a TD to give the Steelers a 17-0 lead in the Jets AFC title game.

Then, Willie Gay scoops up a fumble. It's 24-0, start playing Renegade, wave those Terrible Towels, right?

WRONG!

Why? Because after Gay's fumble return, the Steelers defense gave up a field goal.

Then, to start the 2nd half, the defense gave up a touchdown to Santonio Holmes.

So that's 10 straight points for the Jets, and the 17 point lead that Ben's offense gave the defense was cut to 14 points.

And Ben wasn't on the field for a half an hour.

Class dismissed.

[BlitzTo7]

that's the problem with some fans... they want us to win because of our O. I think all 3 phases are needed and its no surprise that a D that is paid top dollar, along with a HC is was a defensive coach is getting the glory most games.

And considering the Steelers spend most of their money on defense (one reason why they've been in cap hell), why should anyone expect the offense to be better? The Steelers are getting what they paid for.

In this current era where offenses have the advantage, that has to change.

[GermanCrash]

No, the problem is some fans only care about where this team ranks on D without looking at context.

Lemming here praises the 2011 defense. But ignores the garbage QBs that team faced for most of the year.

That season, for any realistic fan should be remembered for 2 things: Joe Flacco going 90 yards win the division, and Tim Circus Act smoking that defense.

The defense has injuries? They get absolved of blame.

Arians offense has injuries? Doesn't matter.

And you can't read this and tell me I'm wrong.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

...That season ... should be remembered for 2 things: Joe Flacco going 90 yards win the division, and Tim Circus Act smoking that defense....

I'm geographically overwhelmed, feeling blitzkrieged, so I can't remember if I at the core of things agree with UNCrash or not. But I do think I agree with the above statement. The #1 defense and 50c would have bought us a quarter Venti from Starb*cks that year.

[steelz09]

Are you referring to the game last year in Denver when even though the Steelers were in "no huddle", Ben wouldn't snap the ball until the playclock went all the way down?

Considering the Steelers love them some TOP, I don't think that was Ben's decision.

No. I'm referring to the unexplainable poorly executed 2 minute drill of last week.

I don't know what was worse....

Ben's execution near the end zone which in which he continuously used up to much time and was throwing short of the endzone
..or..
Tomlin's timeout with 2:02 on the clock.

[BlitzTo7]

No. I'm referring to the unexplainable poorly executed 2 minute drill of last week.

I don't know what was worse....

Ben's execution near the end zone which in which he continuously used up to much time and was throwing short of the endzone
..or..
Tomlin's timeout with 2:02 on the clock.

That was the best drive of the game. And don't tell me it was Ben's choice not to throw in the endzone, everyone knows that isn't true. Everyone knows ever since Haley came here this offense has started to play scared.