Adrian Robinson traded to Eagles for Felix Jones

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  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    #16
    Originally posted by steelsnis
    I don't think they like Robinson as much as we think they do. He doesn't play special teams particularly well and hasn't gotten much run this preseason. I guess they like the Baxter kid more, plus they have a bunch of young inside backers they like a lot and don't want to have to cut them?
    Yea.... Colbert actually gave Baxter some props early on in training camp which is great considering he's a UDFA.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    • steelsnis
      Starter
      • Dec 2008
      • 980

      #17
      Yeah, I don't necessarily there's some deeper, sinister motive here regarding the RB's.

      I tend to think they just were trying to get something for a player who was probably going to be cut. Robinson's from Harrisburg, PA and played at Temple in Philly so my guess is that someone in the Eagles organization had their eye on him.

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      • sedatedsteelerfan
        Backup
        • Aug 2013
        • 199

        #18
        Originally posted by 7 UP
        I agree this isnt about the final 2 preseason games. Steelers could have brought any UDFA in for that. Im not sure about Howlings injury. I think this move says two things. They dont beleive Redman is a NFL caliber starting back. And they dont think Dwyer will stay in shape throughout the season. So now that Bell is out for a long period of time they are desperately trying to upgrade the position.



        Yeah but Bell is not going to be out a long time. Maybe 4 weeks at Max from what I now read. And Dwyer's issues, even at Georgia teac were always coming into Camp overweight, and not in condition. This is what draft experts said about him when he came out, which is why he fell as far as he did. Even last year, Dwyer came in out of shape, and as the camp and season progressed, Dwyer got into shape like he has always done, and that is why Dwyer looked so good last season for us when he was put in. But I think no one, not Tomlin or Colbert thought that Dwyer would take this last off-season so seriously, and report in the great physical condition that he did. Hell Ed Bushchette even wrote about it during Mini Camp saying Dwyer easily looks to be 20-25 Lbs less then he was last year. And it very clearly shows in his performances so far. And Felix Jones, who even with his experience in Dallas HAS been a disappointment since he was drafted in round 1 some 5 years ago. But, even if he is healthy, which he has been the past 2 years, he is a part time RB who IS a 3rd down specialist. Something that Howling was signed for. So the very fact that we acquired Jones only tells me that something is up with Howling. A injury that is more serious then we all know. And if not, then I don't know why Felix was brought in at all.

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        • Bluto
          Backup
          • Nov 2012
          • 135

          #19
          Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
          Yeah but Bell is not going to be out a long time. Maybe 4 weeks at Max from what I now read. And Dwyer's issues, even at Georgia teac were always coming into Camp overweight, and not in condition. This is what draft experts said about him when he came out, which is why he fell as far as he did. Even last year, Dwyer came in out of shape, and as the camp and season progressed, Dwyer got into shape like he has always done, and that is why Dwyer looked so good last season for us when he was put in. But I think no one, not Tomlin or Colbert thought that Dwyer would take this last off-season so seriously, and report in the great physical condition that he did. Hell Ed Bushchette even wrote about it during Mini Camp saying Dwyer easily looks to be 20-25 Lbs less then he was last year. And it very clearly shows in his performances so far. And Felix Jones, who even with his experience in Dallas HAS been a disappointment since he was drafted in round 1 some 5 years ago. But, even if he is healthy, which he has been the past 2 years, he is a part time RB who IS a 3rd down specialist. Something that Howling was signed for. So the very fact that we acquired Jones only tells me that something is up with Howling. A injury that is more serious then we all know. And if not, then I don't know why Felix was brought in at all.
          Came to trainging camp in shape. Only because he thoughthe may get cut after showing up at OTAS earlier at 265 pds. Coach"s pretty much ignored him at OTA's. I think they are worried that the light will never go off in his head to take care of his body year round.

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          • sedatedsteelerfan
            Backup
            • Aug 2013
            • 199

            #20
            Originally posted by Bluto
            Came to trainging camp in shape. Only because he thoughthe may get cut after showing up at OTAS earlier at 265 pds. Coach"s pretty much ignored him at OTA's. I think they are worried that the light will never go off in his head to take care of his body year round.



            First off, Dwyer has never seen 265 in his life. And second, he weighed in at Camp at 224 Lbs, And reportedly ran in the low 4,4's in the forty. And regardless of what they might THINK...that has nothing to do with getting a former 1st round RB who has failed, and is not a durable RB at any point in his career. So your response points are ridiculous.

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            • flippy
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 17088

              #21
              As much as I like Robinson as a pass rusher, I love this trade. I can see a no huddle offense with Brown, Sanders, Wheaton, Howling, and Jones all on the field together. Spread em out and give these open field runners some room to work.

              None of the backs on our roster have shown an ability to stay healthy and carry the load. Jones is another in the same mold. But the one difference is Jones has averaged close to 5 YPC thru his career thus far. This probably means Dunn won't make the roster with another potential returner in Jones.

              And Barron Batch can focus more on his art now.

              With where Haley's offense is going, I see Jones as a great fit in Pittsburgh.
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              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3938

                #22
                Bell fans are fooling themselves thinking that a foot injury on a RB is a quick fix. Bell MAY be back after week 2 or 3 of the regular season but he could easily take up to 8 weeks before he could practice. Robinson has shown flashes but this move is about now. Investment speaking...It is a win for the Steelers. A 1st rounder for an UDFA. He is a starting RB if he could stay healthy and could help you in the return game.

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                • sedatedsteelerfan
                  Backup
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 199

                  #23
                  Originally posted by flippy
                  As much as I like Robinson as a pass rusher, I love this trade. I can see a no huddle offense with Brown, Sanders, Wheaton, Howling, and Jones all on the field together. Spread em out and give these open field runners some room to work.

                  None of the backs on our roster have shown an ability to stay healthy and carry the load. Jones is another in the same mold. But the one difference is Jones has averaged close to 5 YPC thru his career thus far. This probably means Dunn won't make the roster with another potential returner in Jones.

                  And Barron Batch can focus more on his art now.

                  With where Haley's offense is going, I see Jones as a great fit in Pittsburgh.




                  That's laughable. You already have a guy, who was 4th on the Eagles depth Chart, and they were never exactly chalk-filled with great RB's...on the field with us when Jones has NEVER played in a offense like Haley's. And has no concept of our Playbook.


                  Not a chance in hell son.

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                  • flippy
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                    That's laughable. You already have a guy, who was 4th on the Eagles depth Chart, and they were never exactly chalk-filled with great RB's...on the field with us when Jones has NEVER played in a offense like Haley's. And has no concept of our Playbook.


                    Not a chance in hell son.
                    Thanks Dad!
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                    • MrCrash
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 33

                      #25
                      Jones is a nice pickup as long as they don't try to turn him into Fran Rogel.

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                      • flippy
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 17088

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MrCrash
                        Jones is a nice pickup as long as they don't try to turn him into Fran Rogel.
                        You know we'll be running Jones and Howling up the middle and trying to get Dwyer and Redman on the edge. That's just our running game
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                        • sedatedsteelerfan
                          Backup
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 199

                          #27
                          Quite a few RB's/WR's have had the Lisfranc Injury, and have made it back on the field in 6 weeks. And Bell doesn't even have Lisfranc injury, so how you or anyone here can say he won't see the field for 2 months is ridiculous. I'm telling you, this trade has something to do with Howling. Cause Jones and Howling are simular players. 3rd down RB's. Jones has nothing to do with Redman's game or Dwyer. BOTH are making this roster. We have always had 4 RB's on a roster, sometimes even 5. So the Felix Jones trade does not mean the end for either Dwyer or Redman. It means the end of Batch for sure. And it means that Felix was brought in to compete with Howling. Either he is hurt. Or Howling, even though Impressive in the first preseason game, has NOT been Impressive in practice. And maybe the Steelers wanted a different 3rd down option other then Howling.

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                          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3938

                            #28
                            Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                            That's laughable. You already have a guy, who was 4th on the Eagles depth Chart, and they were never exactly chalk-filled with great RB's...on the field with us when Jones has NEVER played in a offense like Haley's. And has no concept of our Playbook.


                            Not a chance in hell son.
                            Eagles have McCoy & Brown. They are solid at #1 & #2. Polk & Tucker have shown enough for the Eagles to be happy to make one of them #3. Jones would be a guaranteed salary if on the roster week 1. Business wise...You go with Polk or Tucker.

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Steelhere10
                              Should have traded For OL, and sent Gay, Foote plus Carter.
                              I would have traded for OL too, but the Steelers even making a trade is big news
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 3938

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                                Quite a few RB's/WR's have had the Lisfranc Injury, and have made it back on the field in 6 weeks. And Bell doesn't even have Lisfranc injury, so how you or anyone here can say he won't see the field for 2 months is ridiculous. I'm telling you, this trade has something to do with Howling. Cause Jones and Howling are simular players. 3rd down RB's. Jones has nothing to do with Redman's game or Dwyer. BOTH are making this roster. We have always had 4 RB's on a roster, sometimes even 5. So the Felix Jones trade does not mean the end for either Dwyer or Redman. It means the end of Batch for sure. And it means that Felix was brought in to compete with Howling. Either he is hurt. Or Howling, even though Impressive in the first preseason game, has NOT been Impressive in practice. And maybe the Steelers wanted a different 3rd down option other then Howling.
                                None of us know the severity of the injury. But I'm telling you...There is no way you or anyone else can say he will be back in 2-4 weeks. I have seen foot injuries keep skill guys out 4-8 weeks. Depends on severity and how much pain a player could endure. He will have discomfort for a long time the following day. He will have to flex his foot to knock the pain out. I suffered a foot sprain. I missed 1 week but I was an OL. I had the thing wrapped tighter than 10 lbs of sausage in a 2lb bag. I had to endure the pain to play. It was 9 weeks until I could actually stand up after being off my feet for awhile and not limp for the first 10 steps. You put that on a RB...He will be a average RB making himself a target and the coaching staff won't let him on the field until he shows no effects.

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