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  • BURGH86STEEL
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    • May 2008
    • 6921

    #16
    Originally posted by The Man of Steel
    Completely different QB's. Drop the Mel Blount rule for a couple of seasons and Brady, Brees, P.Manning, etc would all be completing 50% of their passes while Ben would be thriving. Ben's a throwback to when QB's were men, not just some head coach's system QB.
    Not one QB in the league today or in the past would survive the beating from today's bigger, stronger, and faster defensive players if they had to play under the rules of the 70's.

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    • Snatch98
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 1451

      #17
      Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
      So you are not Impressed by Brady, and the Pats ? I'd like to see Ben go 11-11 like Tom did last night against a 1st team defense. Especially when Ben has alot of skill players he has played with for years. As where Brady doesn't have a single one.
      Tom Brady and his success is one part his own skill and two parts the system. It's dink and dunk, with the occasional shot down field. He also has an eternity in the pocket with one of the better offensive lines in the NFL. The Steelers offensive line is just coming together. Danny Amendola when healthy is a better receiver than anyone they had on their roster last season. Outside of Randy Moss he's the best they've had in a while. He's Wes Welker, with more size and better routes. It's also the damn preseason. As others have said you're welcome is quickly wearing out. Each and every post you make is someone veiled in a load of bull. We had one that seemed to of fell of the face of the earth just like you not long ago. It's funny that another one crops up now. I'm all for posting opinions that go against the grain BUT they better be based in some sort of reality. As of now you seem like you're posting from the moon. Give it a rest.

      EDIT: Why do you think Bellicheat always seems to plug and play players in to that offense without slowing down? Tom Brady is good but Bill B. is the reason that team is in the thick of things year in and year out. I don't like the guy but that's the truth.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #18
        Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
        Not one QB in the league today or in the past would survive the beating from today's bigger, stronger, and faster defensive players if they had to play under the rules of the 70's.
        If the 70s rules were in play, we would have signed Harrison for whatever he wanted. Heck there wouldn't be any QBs left in the league besides Ben. Although, I'm sure Ben would be dead from a hit by Ngata already.
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        • SidSmythe
          Hall of Famer
          • Sep 2008
          • 4708

          #19
          Gotta roll my eyes at how south this discussion went. Once September rolls around Brady's excellent preseason numbers will mean as much as the Bills 2-0 record.
          Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
          Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
          Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10281

            #20
            Originally posted by SidSmythe
            Merrill Hoge said in a personal conversation with Ben Roethlisberger this offseason "this is the best Offensive Line I've ever had" ... I would say our Interior 3 are the best he's had since 2005. I might be thinking he said that when Max Starks was unsigned and he was assuming he'd eventually be his LT this year. My biggest concern with the OLINE is DEPTH. if someone goes down this unit is THIN.
            Ben has always been the biggest supporter of his Olinemen. No surprise that he is pumping them up again as always. "Who's laughing now OLine?"
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            • Vader
              Backup
              • Dec 2012
              • 289

              #21
              Originally posted by flippy
              If the 70s rules were in play, we would have signed Harrison for whatever he wanted. Heck there wouldn't be any QBs left in the league besides Ben. Although, I'm sure Ben would be dead from a hit by Ngata already.
              The same Ben that has only had one 16 game season under his belt? He can't stay healthy in today's NFL let alone the 70s.

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              • DBR96A
                Backup
                • Feb 2012
                • 469

                #22
                Originally posted by Vader
                The same Ben that has only had one 16 game season under his belt? He can't stay healthy in today's NFL let alone the 70s.
                Except Roethlisberger didn't miss any games to injuries in 2004, 2007, 2008 or 2010, and he suffered only minor injuries in 2005 and 2009. That leaves 2006, 2011 and 2012 as the only seasons in which he suffered severe injuries.
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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Snatch98
                  Tom Brady and his success is one part his own skill and two parts the system. It's dink and dunk, with the occasional shot down field. He also has an eternity in the pocket with one of the better offensive lines in the NFL. The Steelers offensive line is just coming together. Danny Amendola when healthy is a better receiver than anyone they had on their roster last season. Outside of Randy Moss he's the best they've had in a while. He's Wes Welker, with more size and better routes. It's also the damn preseason. As others have said you're welcome is quickly wearing out. Each and every post you make is someone veiled in a load of bull. We had one that seemed to of fell of the face of the earth just like you not long ago. It's funny that another one crops up now. I'm all for posting opinions that go against the grain BUT they better be based in some sort of reality. As of now you seem like you're posting from the moon. Give it a rest.

                  EDIT: Why do you think Bellicheat always seems to plug and play players in to that offense without slowing down? Tom Brady is good but Bill B. is the reason that team is in the thick of things year in and year out. I don't like the guy but that's the truth.
                  I agree.. but I think the Giants show how average the Pats OL is every time they play. If you get after the QB and cover the flats he is SOL.

                  Part of the reason the OL looks so good is because teams are scared to go after Brady because they do a great job creating mismatches with the TE or RB. Bring 5 or 6 guys and watch Brady look pedestrian. This isn't a knock on him... each QB has a weakness. Ben is better under pressure and after contact. Manning and Brady are better when they are clean.

                  Ben doesn't need to be Brady but I would like our O as a whole to look like they know what the hell they are doing. A lot of our plays look gross compared to other teams when I watch 1st teams playing preseason ball.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • Ghost
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6338

                    #24
                    When I was watching the 1st pre-season game it had a feel to it that seemed they were using a very tiny portion of the playbook. As if they didn't want to give any secrets away before the real games started. Maybe it was just me. I'm not concerned with these games all that much but a nice sustained drive with a mixture of runs, passes, and Ben not getting sacked sure would feel nice. Year 2 with the new O - lets take it out of the parking lot and see what it does on the highway!
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