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  • sedatedsteelerfan
    Backup
    • Aug 2013
    • 199

    #46
    Considering Cruz BEST 40 time ever was a 4.71, I have more worries why no one could catch a guy who can't even out run Dan Marino RIGHT NOW!!

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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      #47
      Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
      Considering Cruz BEST 40 time ever was a 4.71, I have more worries why no one could catch a guy who can't even out run Dan Marino RIGHT NOW!!
      Because there is a big difference between running in shorts and running with a helmet on and a ball in your hands...

      Cruz had like, 1300 yards and 10 TDs last season...he is not slow by any means...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • Snatch98
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1451

        #48
        Originally posted by Steelhere10
        They were just safety help over the top, but Gay was burned from the start by five yards or so.
        Nope, that's the play everyone is talking about. I watched the play a few times and can't for the life of me figure out why so many people are up in arms about it. Eli threw a great ball and he didn't just beat Gay deep, he beat both safeties deep. On top of that Gay was possibly a half step behind on arguably the best slot receiver in the NFL. I'm not worried about Gay but I never have been personally. I don't want the guy playing as a number 2 corner but he's a solid nickel and that's what they brought him in to the organization again.

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        • Steelhere10
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3849

          #49
          Go to the Depot and read the breakdown of the play. And that's just how I saw it.
          [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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          • steelz09
            Administrator
            • Jan 2008
            • 4675

            #50
            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
            Polamalu accepts responsibility for Victor Cruz's touchdown against Giants.

            [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/8/12/4613354/steelers-giants-victor-cruz-touchdown-troy-polamalu[/URL]
            My opinion of William Gay didn't start on Saturday so whether he was responsible for that TD or not doesn't matter. The guy isn't very good at all and I can't believe that we are 1 injury away from him being a #2.

            Think about this.... last year, Sanders was our #3 WR. This year, it might be Wheaton or Cotchery. Whether it be Sanders (of last year), Wheaton, or Cotchery....Gay would likely be overmatched 9 out 10 times if our defense had to face our very own offense. He's a liability. If Ike and Allen can't stay healthy all year and Gay has to step into the #2 role, we're in trouble. If that happens, I'll be starting the opposing teams#2 WR in fantasy football
            Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35649

              #51
              Originally posted by steelz09
              The guy isn't very good at all and I can't believe that we are 1 injury away from him being a #2.

              He's a liability. If Ike and Allen can't stay healthy all year and Gay has to step into the #2 role, we're in trouble.
              I agree, Gay as our #2 CB is a scary thought.

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              • Discipline of Steel
                Hall of Famer
                • Aug 2008
                • 3882

                #52
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                I agree, Gay as our #2 CB is a scary thought.
                Just guessing but if we had a starting CB injured, I think Gay would stay in nickel and someone else like Victorian or Brown would elevate.
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                Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women.

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                • NJ-STEELER
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #53
                  Why is Ike "gone next year ?"

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                  • steelz09
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4675

                    #54
                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    Why is Ike "gone next year ?"
                    He should have been gone this year if it meant keeping Allen and Lewis as our long term starters. Don't get me wrong, I like Ike as much as the next Steeler fan but as most already know... It's a business.

                    The Steelers made a BAD business decision in letting Lewis walk when they know damn well their ongoing salary cap situation and their age in the secondary.

                    Ike is getting paid close to 9.5 million this year. The problem with cutting him this offseason was the 6.9 mil in dead "money". Next year, he will make close to 10.5 million. The BIGGEST difference is next year there is no "dead" money if he's cut.
                    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                    • Discipline of Steel
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3882

                      #55
                      Originally posted by steelz09
                      He should have been gone this year if it meant keeping Allen and Lewis as our long term starters. Don't get me wrong, I like Ike as much as the next Steeler fan but as most already know... It's a business.

                      The Steelers made a BAD business decision in letting Lewis walk when they know damn well their ongoing salary cap situation and their age in the secondary.

                      Ike is getting paid close to 9.5 million this year. The problem with cutting him this offseason was the 6.9 mil in dead "money". Next year, he will make close to 10.5 million. The BIGGEST difference is next year there is no "dead" money if he's cut.
                      Ike restructure next year.
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                      • fezziwig
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3515

                        #56
                        Originally posted by steelz09
                        It's the Steelers own fault that the CB situation is what it is....

                        If they resigned Lewis, they'd have their starting CBs locked up for several years in Lewis & Allen. Instead, they let Lewis walk for very reasonable money which was one of the dumbest personnel decisions in recent memory. You take years to develop a talent just to let him walk..... it's ridiculous.

                        This year, they COULD have had Ike, Lewis, Allen as the top 3. Next year, Ike will be gone but at least you'd still have Allen and Lewis as your #1 and #2. Instead, we CHOSE to have Ike, Allen and Gay as our top 3.

                        William Gay is a joke..... Good QBs will identify where he is and pick on him all day long like they've done in the past.

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                        • steelz09
                          Administrator
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4675

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Discipline of Steel
                          Ike restructure next year.
                          I sure hope not.... Ike will be almost 34.5 by the start of next season. Why would you restructure?
                          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                          • Snatch98
                            Pro Bowler
                            • May 2008
                            • 1451

                            #58
                            Originally posted by steelz09
                            I sure hope not.... Ike will be almost 34.5 by the start of next season. Why would you restructure?
                            How many players on the Steelers roster right now are in better shape than Ike Taylor? It should answer your question. You may have a point if the guy still wasn't one of the fastest on the team at that age AND one of the hardest working players on the team and possibly the entire NFL.
                            Last edited by Snatch98; 08-12-2013, 06:54 PM.

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                            • steelz09
                              Administrator
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4675

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Snatch98
                              How many players on the Steelers roster right now are in better shape than Ike Taylor and that should answer your question. You may have a point if the guy still wasn't one of the fastest on the team at that age AND one of the hardest working players on the team and possibly the entire NFL.
                              We HAD a guy on the roster and we didn't resign him... remember?

                              Everyone gets old... including Ike. Ike isn't worth the money he's making right now and his play will decline. Look at Champ Bailey... he's a hall of famer and his play clearly declined last year and Ike is no Champ Bailey and he will be be older than that next year.

                              Yea, let's pay a non-playmaker close to 10 million/yr... that makes sense.

                              Let's move on..... the NFL days are ending for the mid-30 crowd. Unfortunately, that means next year for old timer Clark, Foote, Ike and Polamalu shortly thereafter.
                              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                              • Snatch98
                                Pro Bowler
                                • May 2008
                                • 1451

                                #60
                                Originally posted by steelz09
                                Everyone gets old... including Ike. We HAD a guy on the roster and we didn't resign him... remember? Ike isn't worth the money he's making right now and his play will decline. Yea, let's pay a non-playmaker close to 10 million/yr... that makes sense.

                                Let's move on..... the NFL days are ending for the mid-30 crowd. Unfortunately, that means next year for old timer Clark, Foote, Ike and Polamalu shortly thereafter.
                                Right everyone gets old but there are plenty of players in the NFL that stave off the age through extra work in the offseason. Ike Taylor is one of those guys and I don't expect to see him released by the Steelers anytime soon. The day Ike goes is the day Ike retires. IMO

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