Butler Says Woodley is "Where We Need to Have Him"

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  • phillyesq
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    • May 2008
    • 7568

    Butler Says Woodley is "Where We Need to Have Him"

    Woodley playing up to form is crucial for this team, both this year and moving forward. His cap number, especially with all the restructurings, makes it essential that he perform like he did in the past.[URL="http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2013/07/29/steelers-lb-coach-says-woodley-is-where-we-need-to-have-him/"]

    http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2013/07/29/steelers-lb-coach-says-woodley-is-where-we-need-to-have-him/[/URL]
  • Jooser
    Legend
    • Jul 2008
    • 5102

    #2
    Mark it down, Woodley will tear it up this season. Flucco should be quivering right now.
    ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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    • Shoe
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4044

      #3
      You said it, phillyesq. He has to become Terrell Suggs for us, if we are going to go where we want to go.
      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35649

        #4
        Woodley wants to rush more

        Teresa Varley
        Steelers.com

        Linebacker LaMarr Woodley loves to rush the quarterback. It’s what he excels at. It’s what he does. It’s his passion.

        His hope is he gets to do it a lot more this year.

        Woodley said last year he rushed the quarterback about 50 percent of the time on passing downs, dropping back in coverage the other 50 percent. He wants to see the scale tip more in favor of rushing this year.

        “They pay me to rush, so hopefully I will be rushing and not covering receivers and tight ends down the field,” said Woodley. “I felt like I dropped back a lot last year, but that was the scheme. I would like to get back to doing more rushing.”

        Woodley finished the 2012 season with four sacks, with a hamstring injury and high ankle sprain contributing to that number being down from nine in 2011. This year he wants to bring the sack numbers back up again.

        “My game is predicated on sacks and this defense is predicated on getting to the quarterback, making him make bad decisions and allowing our secondary to make plays,” said Woodley. “I am asked to drop more. Other outside linebackers rush more. When my number is called I just have to make it count.”

        Woodley is going to have someone different lining up outside with him this year after James Harrison wasn’t retained and then went on to sign with the Cincinnati Bengals. Whether it’s veteran Jason Worilds or rookie Jarvis Jones that steps up, getting both to develop is going to be a key.

        “It’s definitely important,” said Woodley. “Here in Pittsburgh outside linebackers play off one another. When there are two good ones here they have a lot of sacks and help the team out because you can’t just focus on one guy.”

        Woodley likes what he has seen so far from Jones in camp, even though it’s just a few days in.

        “He looked good, not just in backs-on-backers,” said Woodley. “Going against our offense he is looking good, dropping back in coverage, rushing the quarterback. We went against the offensive line in one-on-one pass rush and he did a great job.”

        [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Woodley-wants-to-rush-more/ce5a0e70-f57f-460c-815c-693fd512a86f[/URL]

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        • skyhawk
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 3732

          #5
          Certainly good news after he pulled a Cowher (2006) and mailed it in the past 2 seasons.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #6
            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            Woodley wants to rush more

            Teresa Varley
            Steelers.com

            Linebacker LaMarr Woodley loves to rush the quarterback. It’s what he excels at. It’s what he does. It’s his passion.

            His hope is he gets to do it a lot more this year.

            Woodley said last year he rushed the quarterback about 50 percent of the time on passing downs, dropping back in coverage the other 50 percent. He wants to see the scale tip more in favor of rushing this year.

            “They pay me to rush, so hopefully I will be rushing and not covering receivers and tight ends down the field,” said Woodley. “I felt like I dropped back a lot last year, but that was the scheme. I would like to get back to doing more rushing.”

            Woodley finished the 2012 season with four sacks, with a hamstring injury and high ankle sprain contributing to that number being down from nine in 2011. This year he wants to bring the sack numbers back up again.

            “My game is predicated on sacks and this defense is predicated on getting to the quarterback, making him make bad decisions and allowing our secondary to make plays,” said Woodley. “I am asked to drop more. Other outside linebackers rush more. When my number is called I just have to make it count.”

            Woodley is going to have someone different lining up outside with him this year after James Harrison wasn’t retained and then went on to sign with the Cincinnati Bengals. Whether it’s veteran Jason Worilds or rookie Jarvis Jones that steps up, getting both to develop is going to be a key.

            “It’s definitely important,” said Woodley. “Here in Pittsburgh outside linebackers play off one another. When there are two good ones here they have a lot of sacks and help the team out because you can’t just focus on one guy.”

            Woodley likes what he has seen so far from Jones in camp, even though it’s just a few days in.

            “He looked good, not just in backs-on-backers,” said Woodley. “Going against our offense he is looking good, dropping back in coverage, rushing the quarterback. We went against the offensive line in one-on-one pass rush and he did a great job.”

            [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Woodley-wants-to-rush-more/ce5a0e70-f57f-460c-815c-693fd512a86f[/URL]

            Let's face it, like I have said for a few years now Woodley is a DE pretending to be a OLB. If he is dropping into coverage we are wasting the strongest part of his game. Let Woodley rush more and watch the injuries go away. His body isn't made for chasing RBs in pass patterns.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • phillyesq
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 7568

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Let's face it, like I have said for a few years now Woodley is a DE pretending to be a OLB. If he is dropping into coverage we are wasting the strongest part of his game. Let Woodley rush more and watch the injuries go away. His body isn't made for chasing RBs in pass patterns.
              Nobody is really saying that except for you. And, looking at the numbers, Woodley was in coverage less last year than he was in 2010, when he recorded 10 sacks, 2 picks, 3 FF.


              Ed Bouchette@EdBouchette[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/EdBouchette/status/362982827014369281"]28m[/URL]“[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/FBALL_Andrea"]@FBALL_Andrea[/URL]: [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/EdBouchette"]@EdBouchette[/URL] According to [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/PFF"]@PFF[/URL], Woodley had 135 coverage snaps last year, 104 in 2011 and 204 in 2010." ...Missed 1/2 of '11

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              • Captain Lemming
                Legend
                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                #8
                Originally posted by phillyesq
                Nobody is really saying that except for you. And, looking at the numbers, Woodley was in coverage less last year than he was in 2010, when he recorded 10 sacks, 2 picks, 3 FF.
                Nice numbers making the point well.
                Heck we drop DLinemen into coverage, this is nothing new.
                The key to our defense is YOU DONT KNOW WHO is coming, thus Woodley like EVERYONE ELSE needs to do his share of drop backs.

                Truth as you show above is the issue is not fewer opportunities but it was a lack of EFFECTIVENESS.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phillyesq
                  Nobody is really saying that except for you. And, looking at the numbers, Woodley was in coverage less last year than he was in 2010, when he recorded 10 sacks, 2 picks, 3 FF.
                  Read Woodley's words in the article. He isn't buying it.

                  “My game is predicated on sacks and this defense is predicated on getting to the quarterback, making him make bad decisions and allowing our secondary to make plays,” said Woodley. “I am asked to drop more. Other outside linebackers rush more. When my number is called I just have to make it count.”
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • Shoe
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4044

                    #10
                    Well, them dropping him into coverage is more a function of his pass-rushing prowess then it is the team's decision. You think we'd drop Aldon Smith the same amount? No. Because Smith gets to the QB. Woodley wasn't (because he got fat), and so they have to play more games with him (i.e. trying to fool them).
                    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #11
                      Linebacker Woodley hopes to make a comeback as pass rusher

                      By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
                      August 1, 2013



                      You do not buy a vacuum cleaner to do an air conditioner's job. You do not have a Harley haul a boat. You cannot get a Doberman to be a lap dog.

                      And you should not often ask Steelers outside left linebacker LaMarr Woodley to drop into pass coverage.

                      Woodley, listed as 6 feet 2, 265 pounds, is built to stop the run, pressure the quarterback, sack the quarterback, obliterate the quarterback. He has done a nice job of it, too, rated No. 1 in 2009 by Pro Football Focus (PFF) doing just that.

                      He had quarterbacks quivering through the first half of 2011 with nine sacks in the first eight games. Since then, he's had four sacks in the past 1 1/2 seasons.

                      What happened to the quarterback meat grinder that was LaMarr Woodley? Injuries, big time, and something else Woodley mentioned Wednesday, something that helped conspire to keep him off the quarterback -- the Steelers defense.

                      "I felt I dropped back a lot last year in coverage," Woodley stated.

                      What? Woodley covering tight ends running pass routes instead of bringing the heat on the guy trying to throw them the ball?

                      "That's part of this scheme," Woodley shrugged.

                      True enough, Dick LeBeau long ago came up with the idea of the zone-blitz defense, and it has served the Steelers well. Part of the scheme is masking who might rush the passer vs. who might drop into zone pass coverage. That way, offenses can not load up against -- or play away from -- a defense's best pass rusher.

                      Kevin Greene, who has more official sacks than any linebacker in NFL history, bragged about his ability to drop into pass coverage with the Steelers. James Harrison was in pass coverage when he picked off Kurt Warner and ran 100 yards for a touchdown in the Super Bowl XLIII.

                      Harrison was rated by PFF as the most effective pass rusher in the NFL over the past five years. Woodley was rated No. 7 and would have been higher if it weren't for his ineffectiveness for one reason or another the past 1 1/2 years.

                      He went through terrible hamstring problems that virtually wiped out the second half of 2011 after that hot start. Last season, injuries to his hamstring and a high ankle sprain limited him. He said he feels "great" now after a different workout routine with a different trainer in the Arizona heat and is ready to resume his role as a premier pass rusher.

                      And don't the Steelers need one.

                      They lost Harrison when the sides could not agree on a reduced salary, and now he's with the rival Cincinnati Bengals. Their sack total plummeted from 48 in 2010 to 35 in 2011 and 37 in 2012, and with it some of the fewest turnovers totals on defense in their history.

                      Maybe it's time for them to play the zone blitz most everywhere else but let the left outside linebacker do his thing and sic him on the quarterback.

                      "I'd definitely like to get back to doing more rushing than dropping back in coverage because my game is predicated on sacks," Woodley said, "and this defense is predicated on getting to the quarterback, making quarterbacks make bad decisions and allowing our secondary to make plays."

                      That secondary made precisely six interceptions in 2012. Quarterbacks had more time to avoid forcing passes that might be picked off.

                      "Definitely here outside linebackers don't do what outside linebackers [playing in 3-4 defenses] do across the league," Woodley said. "I'm asked to drop more. Other linebackers across the league rush a little more than I do. When my number's called, I just have to make it count and get home."

                      PFF ranked him tied for 81st among pass rushers in 2012 in a statistic the respected site called "adjusted sacks." Miami's Cameron Wake and Denver's Von Miller tied at the top at 14.19. Woodley was at 4.29.

                      He missed only three games with his injuries, but missed portions of others including three-fourths of a Nov. 25 game against Cleveland when he left with his ankle injury in the first quarter.

                      "The ankle just took time to heal. Through the season when you have a high ankle sprain, you're struggling each and every day. In practice trying to push to get back, sometimes you set yourself back in practice and don't even know and you try to go out there in a game and you're not 100 percent."

                      He says he is that now and has shown it through the early days of training camp. He's anxious to see what's happening on the other side of the defense, where Jason Worilds and rookie Jarvis Jones are trying to replace Harrison. He hopes at least one can pick up the slack.

                      "It's definitely important. Here in Pittsburgh, the outside linebackers play off one another. When there's always two [good] outside linebackers here, they both had a lot of sacks, and they both helped the team out because you can't focus on just one guy, you have to focus on both guys."

                      That is, unless the opponent is afforded the luxury of seeing those pass rushers drop into pass coverage.

                      "They pay me to rush," Woodley proclaimed. "Hopefully, I'll be rushing and not covering receivers and tight ends down the field."

                      [URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...#ixzz2ahd7NuiA[/URL]

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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Read Woodley's words in the article. He isn't buying it.
                        Where did he say his injuries were a result of dropping in coverage???

                        And, quite frankly, if he'd like to drop less, he should win his individual matchups.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35649

                          #13
                          Originally posted by phillyesq

                          And, quite frankly, if he'd like to drop less, he should win his individual matchups.
                          agreed, here's the rookie Le'Veon Bell stuffing Woodley...

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                          • squidkid
                            Legend
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 5847

                            #14
                            what was woodley dropping and covering last year, the buffet?
                            steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                            • Shoe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4044

                              #15
                              I hate how guys don't take accountability. I'm not saying he can't come close to his prime, but I hate when they (people in general, really) blame other factors for their performance, as he's doing. (Another recent episode I recall was, RG3 putting it all on Shanahan--this preseason and on the decision last year.)

                              In the case of Woodley... take responsibility! You became contented, out-of-shape, and hence--you got injured.
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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