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  • SteelCrazy
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 5057

    The Enigmatic Game of Ben Roethlisberger

    Every sport has guys that just don’t do things the way they’re supposed to be done. As much as coaches and front office people want to see the very embodiment of every textbook attribute they spend their lives either crafting or finding, sometimes you just have to accept that it may not be pretty, and it may not be how you want it to happen, but hell, it works.

    Brett Favre was that guy for years in the NFL. It would drive Mike Holmgren insane, and nobody would ever point to Favre as a shining example of how to play QB to any young player, but you couldn’t deny the plays he made and the success he had. At some point you have to kind of throttle back, and let him be himself. Tony Romo has drawn comparisons to Favre for some of those same attributes, as has Jay Cutler, but the new Favre is most definitely Ben Roethlisberger, except ‘Big Ben’ has some tricks in his toolbox that Favre never had.

    The Steelers’ signal-caller might be the most unconventional quarterback in the NFL. Sure there are guys with funkier deliveries, or guys like RGIII for whom entire offenses are crafted around given their unique skillset, but there isn’t anybody else that has so many unique qualities all rolled into one.

    Everybody knows that Roethlisberger doesn’t exactly play the game as it’s drawn up on the chalkboard. There is endless debate among anybody who covers the Steelers as to how much he hurts or helps his offensive line given the length of time he holds the ball vs. his ability to extend plays, but there is so much more to his game than just scrambling for his life until a throw opens up.

    “Our quarterback can beat up your linebackers!”

    That was a quote once used to describe Daunte Culpepper, back when the league had never really seen a quarterback over 250lbs, and the notion of linebackers just bouncing off quarterbacks to the floor was ridiculous. Passers with that size still don’t exactly grow on trees, but it’s at least common enough for people to take it in stride when ‘Big’ Ben Roethlisberger stiff arms a linebacker or defensive lineman to the turf.

    He is tough to take down. You’re talking about a guy who outweighs most linebackers he’ll face and plenty of pass rushers in today’s era of situational rush specialists. It’s one thing to take a guy to the ground who isn’t fighting to stay upright, even if he isn’t much smaller than you are, but Roethlisberger doesn’t hit the deck without a fight. Getting the pressure is only half the job when he is under center, you also need to corral him in the pocket and then eventually drag him to the ground, all before he can get rid of the football. That’s not easy.

    Flashbacks to Tarkenton

    When most quarterbacks are pressured into leaving the pocket they’re looking to either run immediately, using their athleticism to pick up yardage, or they head to the sideline away from the pressure, see if anything opens up downfield, and then pass or throw the ball out of bounds. Roethlisberger doesn’t settle for that, though he will do both of those on occasion. Instead, his tape is littered with plays that could have come straight out of a Fran Tarkenton highlight reel. He will change direction, juke, spin and scramble around behind the line of scrimmage for as long as he can remain elusive or until he can find a pass to hit. The thing that makes them different is that they’re using their athleticism simply to buy time, rather than to get out of trouble and abandon most of their passing targets.

    Big-Ben-4.1.jpg

    Take this simple 2nd-and-10 play from the Dallas game this year. The Steelers are on the edge of field goal range at the Dallas 30, with Roethlisberger in the gun after an incomplete pass on first down. The play is designed to be a simple 2.5 second drop and throw, with Heath Miller hooking up five yards down field. Instead of taking those five yards, Roethlisberger wants one of the double moves he has working downfield to the outside, so he pump fakes and waits for either receiver to uncover. Neither does, and so he continues to climb the pocket before ducking under the pressure from that edge. He fakes past another rusher, scoots to his left and eventually delivers the ball to Heath Miller, his original slam-dunk target, down the right sideline for a touchdown… 8.4 seconds after the ball was snapped.

    That kind of ability to scramble around and yet stay within viable striking distance of the whole field buys receivers the time and space to just drift off to an area uncovered by the defense, exactly like Miller does here. You can’t expect coverage to hold up for eight seconds, it’s just not realistic. Somebody is going to blow it given that much time to try and adjust on the fly.

    This is the great balancing act Roethlisberger brings. He is only pressured at all on this play because he holds the ball too long and climbs the pocket too far, causing his right tackle to lose leverage on his block and the entire protection scheme to collapse around him, but at the same time his ability to avoid that pressure for another five seconds is what opens up the pass to Miller and turns a five-yard gain into a touchdown.

    The Pump Fake and Next Level

    Nobody in football has a better pump fake than Roethlisberger. Unlike some quarterbacks who just give a little shoulder feint or slight movement with the football, he is able to throw practically a full pass and then pull it back in and reload. That’s a game-changer for defensive backs who are usually able to distinguish a pump fake from a pass by other quarterbacks but can’t do the same thing when they’re facing the Steelers. At PFF we record the time between the snap and the ball leaving the quarterback’s hands, and Roethlisberger’s pump fake has become my own personal hell over the past couple of seasons. It’s so effective and convincing that even after watching the play and screwing up once – even knowing it’s coming – it can still sucker you into hitting the button on the stopwatch early.

    Imagine being an NFL safety, keying in on the quarterback and needing to read things early to have any hope of beating the ball to the receiver. That pump fake is enough to make those guys jump on passes he never has any intention of throwing, taking them yards out of position and opening windows deep down field. I’ve spoken to NFL safeties who couldn’t talk enough how much they hate that weapon.

    But despite all of this, the thing that is most unique about Roethlisberger is something I don’t think I have ever seen another quarterback do consistently – he moves around behind the line of scrimmage with the sole purpose of shifting defenders in coverage.

    While most passers see the field almost in two dimensions, with coverage defenders and receivers moving around in front of them, Roethlisberger sees a third dimension: how those defenders react when he moves from the top of his drop.

    I don’t think there is another quarterback in football that can deliberately move players in coverage the way Roethlisberger can. Some passers will understand that when they’re moving out towards the sideline they can force a linebacker caught in no man’s land to play them instead of the receiver, drawing him forward before dumping the ball over his head, but Roethlisberger is the only one that will move from the pocket solely to make that happen, rather than simply reacting to pressure and taking advantage of the situation. He is proactive rather than reactive in this regard.

    Take this play from last year against the Redskins. Facing 3rd-and-Goal from the Washington 7, the Steelers line up with a bunch formation in tight to the right, two receivers to his left and Roethlisberger alone in the backfield in the gun.

    Big-Ben-11.jpg

    The first thing to understand about this play is that Roethlisberger is only ever trying to get the ball to Heath Miller, aligned at the top of the bunch and covered well by the Redskins initially. Instead of going through his progression and trying to find a better target, he instead just starts working his way through his bag of tricks to try and free Miller from the coverage.

    After seeing the defense drop into coverage he isn’t worried about Lorenzo Alexander, the linebacker in man coverage on Miller. Roethlisberger is confident that Miller can lose him if he gets the chance and with his back to the quarterback, Alexander doesn’t stand much chance of making a play on the ball in such tight quarters. The player that he needs to deal with is London Fletcher, the middle linebacker with eyes only on the quarterback, ready to jump any pass put in that direction.

    Big-Ben-2.jpg

    The first thing he tries in order to shift Fletcher is a pump fake. He looks left in the direction of Jericho Cotchery and fires a full-motion pump fake, but Fletcher barely takes a step in that direction. Next he leaves the pocket through the strong-side A-gap and instead of making straight for the goal line – a good chance of scoring, but one that would require running into at least one tackle attempt – he flattens out his run, drawing Fletcher up towards him just enough to allow Miller to sneak in behind for the touchdown pass.

    Big-Ben-3.jpg

    continued below:
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  • SteelCrazy
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 5057

    #2
    continued from above:

    Watching Steelers tape from last season is fantastic. You can see Todd Haley trying to contain Roethlisberger within the offense, trying to rein him in like a horse than just wants to bolt. The opening of every game would begin with a series of short, rhythm passes as the Steelers tried to march down the field in little passing increments exactly by the book. But Roethlisberger just isn’t that type of quarterback. He can do it, sure, but trying to limit him to that is to take away what makes him special. By half time in most games you could see the point that he mentally thought “to hell with this!” and suddenly pump fakes, scrambles and endlessly extended plays are everywhere.

    At some point you have to embrace the fact that it might not be by the book, but it is a nightmare for defenses to deal with. Roethlisberger may never appear in any coaching manual, but he is one of the toughest passers to defend in football, and he has a host of unique qualities that make his game truly enigmatic.

    [url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/07/02/the-enigmatic-game-of-ben-roethlisberger/[/url]
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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 10287

      #3
      Very nice article by a site whose research is watching every bit of game tape there is. This is not an article based on stats, this demonstrates why Ben is elite beyond the numbers. He passes the eyeball test.
      http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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      • Captain QB
        Backup
        • May 2013
        • 180

        #4
        Originally posted by SteelCrazy
        continued from above:

        Watching Steelers tape from last season is fantastic. You can see Todd Haley trying to contain Roethlisberger within the offense, trying to rein him in like a horse than just wants to bolt. The opening of every game would begin with a series of short, rhythm passes as the Steelers tried to march down the field in little passing increments exactly by the book. But Roethlisberger just isn’t that type of quarterback. He can do it, sure, but trying to limit him to that is to take away what makes him special. By half time in most games you could see the point that he mentally thought “to hell with this!” and suddenly pump fakes, scrambles and endlessly extended plays are everywhere.
        Basically this is saying the Steelers dicked around too much in the 1st half of games, which is true. Instead of worrying about "getting Ben into a rhythm" or possessing the football, maybe the Steelers put themselves in a much better position for the second half of these games.

        If the let Ben try and win some of these games earlier, he probably won't have to play superman in the final minute of the game.

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        • NorthCoast
          Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 26640

          #5
          So while it may look like backyard football, there is actually a method to his madness. However, I don't think the 2013 version of BB is the same as the 2004, too many hits caused by weak OL play and his style of play. Playing smarter will allow Roethlisberger to extend his career, and letting "Ben be Ben" will likely shortened it.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #6
            Originally posted by Captain QB
            Basically this is saying the Steelers dicked around too much in the 1st half of games, which is true. Instead of worrying about "getting Ben into a rhythm" or possessing the football, maybe the Steelers put themselves in a much better position for the second half of these games.

            If the let Ben try and win some of these games earlier, he probably won't have to play superman in the final minute of the game.
            Except the "dicking around" approach led to Ben having one of his best seasons....until "Ben being Ben" got him hurt....
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26640

              #7
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              Except the "dicking around" approach led to Ben having one of his best seasons....until "Ben being Ben" got him hurt....
              Definitely a case of taking good with bad. The sack came 07 sec after the snap....(but he was moving in the pocket after only 3 sec).

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #8
                I have no problem with Ben using the God given abilities listed in the above article...

                I have a problem with Ben using ONLY the aforementioned abilities...

                They are tools to be used when needed....not used to the exclusion of a planned passing attack...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Captain QB
                  Backup
                  • May 2013
                  • 180

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Slapstick
                  Except the "dicking around" approach led to Ben having one of his best seasons....until "Ben being Ben" got him hurt....
                  The dicking around approach led to an 8-8 season. I really doubt Ben cares about his stats. As for Ben getting hurt, it happened in the pocket, just where Haley and Art II wanted him to stay.

                  Slap, you need to learn to watch the game beyond the stat sheet. The offense never passed the eye-test.

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                  • skyhawk
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3733

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captain QB
                    The dicking around approach led to an 8-8 season. I really doubt Ben cares about his stats. As for Ben getting hurt, it happened in the pocket, just where Haley and Art II wanted him to stay.

                    Slap, you need to learn to watch the game beyond the stat sheet. The offense never passed the eye-test.
                    It was a freak injury. He fell awkwardly. And dicking around didn't lead to an 8-8 season. Ben getting hurt, stupid turnovers, and a lack of the Steeler D to create any themselves lead to an 8-8 season.

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                    • skyhawk
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3733

                      #11
                      And someone mentioned on this thread of finally let Ben win the game early on instead of late game heroics!! Abso-freaking-lutely!!

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                      • SteelCrazy
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5057

                        #12
                        Understanding Ben Roethlisberger: The league's non-statistical passer baffles most

                        There was recently a version of the Battle of Gettysburg on the site. While it didn't center around any one particular topic (there were dozens), the premise was the use of statistics to quantify the career of Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

                        While nowhere near statistical ineptitude, Roethlisberger's passing yards and passer rating do not clearly show viewers the kind of player he is. Despite ranking well in both areas over the span of his career, they don't speak to the difficulty of stopping Roethlisberger as an individual.

                        Sam Monson of Pro Football Focus recently wrote a feature on this topic, and in doing it, he accomplished something few outside of those who root feverishly for Roethlisberger can; he got it.

                        In his article titled "The Enigmatic Game of Ben Roethlisberger," he takes an unusual path for a PFF feature, largely free-written without statistics. He makes it work to a high level, and that's exactly his point.

                        Roethlisberger is an enigma, both for fans and defenses.

                        Monson highlights the infamous touchdown pass to Heath Miller against the Cowboys in Week 15 - after the game, Roethlisberger would exclaim in frustration they had the wrong play called. Monson didn't mention that piece, possibly due to it not having a direct connection to what he was writing. I only bring it up because it puts into perspective some of Roethlisberger's brilliance.

                        Roethlisberger's opinion was the play called in that particular spot was to exploit what was expected to be more of a prevention look from the Cowboys' defense. Roethlisberger noticed this wasn't the case, and basically went off script to make something happen.

                        How often does he do that? We won't fully know. The result of the play Monson breaks down (very well) was a touchdown, therefore, it's hard to dispute he made a bad decision. But it's impossible to say going off schedule is a bad idea.

                        How many other quarterbacks have that weapon in their arsenal?

                        Some have said in the past players like Colin Kaepernick or Robert Griffin III have excelled at very early points in their careers due to gimmick offensive wrinkles inserted to exploit their ability to run from the pocket. Roethlisberger uses quickness, vision and guts to shift around the pocket (as Monson demonstrates on this play), climbing shrinking and moving laterally, until his team is in an advantageous position.

                        Perhaps speed demons like RGIII and Kaepernick can scramble for a few yards on plays like this. Do they have the ability to stay in the pocket, all of it collapsing around him, hang onto the ball for 8.4 seconds, give hard pump fakes to freeze linebackers, who, by this point, have no idea what's going on, and wait to deliver a throw that results in six points?

                        Maybe that's more of a rhetorical question, but on fourth-and-goal in the Super Bowl, Kaepernick saw a free rusher coming at him as soon as he got the ball, and he threw it to the corner, relying on wide receiver Michael Crabtree to make a play. He didn't.

                        Roethlisberger, on that one particular play against Dallas, shook off and avoided several pass rushers, and delivered a great throw down the field.

                        He got credit for a touchdown, but the fear of that play happening every time he drops back is what makes Roethlisberger a great player. It's also what makes him a two-time Super Bowl champion quarterback.

                        [url]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/7/5/4495246/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-all-time-great-quarterbacks-nfl[/url]
                        Last edited by SteelCrazy; 07-05-2013, 08:35 PM.
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                        • NorthCoast
                          Legend
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 26640

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                          Understanding Ben Roethlisberger: The league's non-statistical passer baffles most

                          There was recently a version of the Battle of Gettysburg on the site. While it didn't center around any one particular topic (there were dozens), the premise was the use of statistics to quantify the career of Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

                          While nowhere near statistical ineptitude, Roethlisberger's passing yards and passer rating do not clearly show viewers the kind of player he is. Despite ranking well in both areas over the span of his career, they don't speak to the difficulty of stopping Roethlisberger as an individual.

                          Sam Monson of Pro Football Focus recently wrote a feature on this topic, and in doing it, he accomplished something few outside of those who root feverishly for Roethlisberger can; he got it.

                          In his article titled "The Enigmatic Game of Ben Roethlisberger," he takes an unusual path for a PFF feature, largely free-written without statistics. He makes it work to a high level, and that's exactly his point.

                          Roethlisberger is an enigma, both for fans and defenses.

                          Monson highlights the infamous touchdown pass to Heath Miller against the Cowboys in Week 15 - after the game, Roethlisberger would exclaim in frustration they had the wrong play called. Monson didn't mention that piece, possibly due to it not having a direct connection to what he was writing. I only bring it up because it puts into perspective some of Roethlisberger's brilliance.

                          Roethlisberger's opinion was the play called in that particular spot was to exploit what was expected to be more of a prevention look from the Cowboys' defense. Roethlisberger noticed this wasn't the case, and basically went off script to make something happen.

                          How often does he do that? We won't fully know. The result of the play Monson breaks down (very well) was a touchdown, therefore, it's hard to dispute he made a bad decision. But it's impossible to say going off schedule is a bad idea.

                          How many other quarterbacks have that weapon in their arsenal?

                          Some have said in the past players like Colin Kaepernick or Robert Griffin III have excelled at very early points in their careers due to gimmick offensive wrinkles inserted to exploit their ability to run from the pocket. Roethlisberger uses quickness, vision and guts to shift around the pocket (as Monson demonstrates on this play), climbing shrinking and moving laterally, until his team is in an advantageous position.

                          Perhaps speed demons like RGIII and Kaepernick can scramble for a few yards on plays like this. Do they have the ability to stay in the pocket, all of it collapsing around him, hang onto the ball for 8.4 seconds, give hard pump fakes to freeze linebackers, who, by this point, have no idea what's going on, and wait to deliver a throw that results in six points?

                          Maybe that's more of a rhetorical question, but on fourth-and-goal in the Super Bowl, Kaepernick saw a free rusher coming at him as soon as he got the ball, and he threw it to the corner, relying on wide receiver Michael Crabtree to make a play. He didn't.

                          Roethlisberger, on that one particular play against Dallas, shook off and avoided several pass rushers, and delivered a great throw down the field.

                          He got credit for a touchdown, but the fear of that play happening every time he drops back is what makes Roethlisberger a great player. It's also what makes him a two-time Super Bowl champion quarterback.

                          [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/7/5/4495246/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-all-time-great-quarterbacks-nfl[/URL]

                          There is nothing new added here. Every NFL QB has to deal with incorrect offensive play calls. That's why presnap defensive reads are so important. Rather than run the play, why not audible out into something that takes advantage of the defense? That is where a Brady or Manning excel. Brady and Manning also are likely to throw a ball away and move on the the next play. I suspect Ben seems to run the play called and just do what he did... try to make something happen. Both styles have been proven to win Superbowls, so I wouldn't say one is better than the other. However, Brady will be playing in his 13th season at the age of 36. My fear is Ben just won't get that far if he doesnt begin to change his style.

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                          • Flasteel
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4008

                            #14
                            [url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/07/04/qb-pressure-profiles-afc-north/[/url]

                            QB Pressure Profiles: AFC North
                            Steve Palazzolo | July 4, 2013


                            We’re back at it again with a deep dive into the PFF Database as we continue to reveal a plethora of numbers regarding pressure and its effect on the quarterback. To recap, in the last few months we’ve looked at pressure’s impact on the passer from different angles and from that data, drew the conclusion that the left tackle might be overrated. From there, we broke it down by quarterback and revealed the league’s best and worst when pressure comes from different places. Now it’s time to take the next step and look at “pressure profiles” for every quarterback in the league.


                            As always, sample size caveats apply in some cases, but the numbers draw from our five years of data going back to 2008. There are certainly trends for some quarterbacks, while others are a bit more scattershot in their performance when pressure comes from different angles.


                            When looking at the numbers, keep in mind that PFF Grade is the best indicator of a player’s performance as we isolate the quarterback’s impact on every single play. If he throws a wide receiver screen that goes for an 80-yard touchdown, the numbers will look pretty, but the QB is credited with the same grade he would earn if it was stopped for no gain. Similarly, a perfectly thrown pass that should be a first down but is dropped and intercepted will likely earn a positive grade despite the ugly INT in the stats. All of the stats are nice to get some perspective but PFF Grade always trumps as more reliable.


                            With that said, let’s take a look at the quarterbacks from the AFC North and how they fare under pressure.





                            Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
                            Strength: Interior Pressure
                            Weakness: Unblocked, Left Tackle


                            Flacco has always looked uncomfortable against unblocked pressure and the numbers back up my inquisitive tweet from last December. As it turns out, he’s second-worst in the league against free rushers as his -15.6 grade ranks just ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Perhaps it’s partially the offensive system focused on throwing the ball down the field or maybe it’s Flacco’s being handcuffed with regard to pre-snap audibles in his early years, but he’s certainly not at his best in the quick game throwing hot routes against unblocked blitzers.


                            Flacco’s other weakness is pressure from left tackle, a position the Ravens shored up with the addition of Bryant McKinnie to the starting lineup during last year’s Super Bowl run. The only positives in the chart appear on the interior as Flacco grades at +1.9 when pressure comes from LG, C and RG.




                            Pressure Drop-backs Comp% Yds Yds/Att TD INT Sack% Knock-down% PFF Grade QB Rating
                            ALL 3130 59.87% 20391 7.1 122 64 6.5% 14.0% 41.6 86.5
                            NP 2153 64.80% 16233 7.6 92 42 0.0% 0.0% 95.0 94.2
                            P 977 45.75% 4158 5.6 30 22 20.7% 44.9% -53.5 64.7
                            LT 146 49.11% 610 5.4 4 6 20.5% 45.2% -6.1 55.3
                            LG 98 50.65% 505 6.6 3 1 18.4% 42.9% 1.0 79.2
                            C 56 54.55% 335 7.6 2 2 14.3% 37.5% 0.0 75.5
                            RG 80 53.23% 617 10.0 3 1 18.8% 37.5% 0.9 97.3
                            RT 135 53.27% 668 6.2 7 2 15.6% 30.4% -0.1 86.5
                            TE 31 44.00% 134 5.4 1 1 16.1% 25.8% -3.9 57.8
                            RB 82 37.74% 295 5.6 2 0 32.9% 52.4% -4.7 69.3
                            QB 40 20.00% 42 2.1 0 1 47.5% 75.0% -12.3 18.8
                            MULT 120 34.29% 198 2.8 1 2 36.7% 66.7% -12.5 36.0
                            UNB 189 42.11% 754 4.4 7 6 7.9% 41.3% -15.6 54.6



                            Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
                            Strength: RT
                            Weakness: QB


                            Dalton doesn’t have a glaring weakness as he struggles against all kinds of pressure, and he’s been responsible for nine sacks in a clean pocket in his two years in the league (including seven last season), leading to a -4.6 grade when pressure is brought upon himself. Though the raw numbers look ugly, Dalton has done his best work when pressure comes from right tackle at +1.3. For Dalton to take the next step in his third season he needs to show some improvement when under heat (-15. while taking better advantage of his opportunities when well-protected (+6.4).




                            Pressure Drop-backs Comp% Yds Yds/Att TD INT Sack% Knock-down% PFF Grade QB Rating
                            ALL 1239 60.04% 7451 6.7 47 33 6.1% 11.0% -9.4 81.6
                            NP 925 64.79% 6263 6.9 40 26 0.0% 0.0% 6.4 87.6
                            P 314 39.52% 1188 5.7 7 7 23.9% 43.3% -15.8 55.8
                            LT 28 50.00% 75 4.2 0 0 28.6% 39.3% -1.3 61.1
                            LG 35 32.00% 125 5.0 2 0 20.0% 45.7% -1.1 76.3
                            C 29 50.00% 84 5.3 0 1 27.6% 44.8% 0.2 39.6
                            RG 36 44.44% 217 8.0 1 1 13.9% 27.8% -1.1 69.5
                            RT 48 34.38% 129 4.0 0 1 14.6% 35.4% 1.3 34.5
                            TE 17 27.27% 63 5.7 0 0 29.4% 52.9% 1.7 50.9
                            RB 21 35.71% 78 5.6 1 2 28.6% 66.7% -3.5 39.3
                            QB 13 0.00% 0 0.0 0 0 69.2% 76.9% -4.6 39.6
                            MUL 31 47.06% 106 6.2 1 1 41.9% 51.6% -1.4 62.4



                            Brandon Weeden, Cleveland Browns
                            Strength: C
                            Weakness: Right side pressure


                            It was a rough rookie season for Weeden who finished as our lowest-ranked quarterback at -30.0, and it really didn’t matter whether or opposing defenses got to him or not. He was actually slightly better when pressured at -13.6, but it’s only because he was so poor when given time (-14.3). Though he faced only eight pressures that came through the center, it was the one spot he handled well as he completed 5-of-6 for 56 yards and a +1.3 grade. Weeden will need to show improvement in all areas if he’s going to prove his worth as the Browns’ quarterback of the future.




                            Pressure Drop-backs Comp% Yds Yds/Att TD INT Sack% Knock-down% PFF Grade QB Rating
                            ALL 559 57.45% 3385 6.5 14 17 4.8% 14.7% -27.9 72.6
                            NP 403 62.28% 2799 7.1 12 10 0.0% 0.0% -14.3 83.1
                            P 156 41.80% 586 4.8 2 7 17.3% 52.6% -13.6 38.5
                            LT 9 42.86% 17 2.4 0 0 11.1% 55.6% -2.4 50.3
                            LG 15 33.33% 56 3.7 0 0 0.0% 53.3% 0.3 45.4
                            C 8 83.33% 56 9.3 1 0 12.5% 37.5% 1.6 145.1
                            RG 21 35.00% 100 5.0 1 3 4.8% 52.4% -3.0 29.2
                            RT 23 47.06% 75 4.4 0 1 17.4% 43.5% -3.5 35.2
                            TE 7 0.00% 0 0.0 0 0 28.6% 42.9% -0.8 39.6
                            RB 15 36.36% 53 4.8 0 0 20.0% 53.3% 0.3 52.5
                            QB 5 0.00% 0 0.0 0 0 60.0% 60.0% -1.2 39.6
                            MUL 14 42.86% 33 4.7 0 1 42.9% 64.3% -2.6 17.9
                            UNB 39 48.48% 196 5.9 0 2 15.4% 56.4% -2.3 42.0



                            Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
                            Strength: Interior Pressure
                            Weakness: RT


                            While most quarterbacks are wilting when the pressure comes from the interior (LG-C-RG), Roethlisberger’s PFF Grade ranks second in the league since 2008 in such situations. Right tackle pressure is a different story as he grades at -6.7 though a return to health for starting RT Marcus Gilbert should help the cause. When Roethlisberger plays, you may hear announcers lauding his ability under pressure and possibly even state that he’s better while under heat, but don’t be fooled, Roethlisberger’s +107.0 grade without pressure is one of the best in the league since 2008. He’s near the top when pressured as well, but as is usually is the case, playing from a clean pocket is the preferred choice.




                            Pressure Drop-backs Comp% Yds Yds/Att TD INT Sack% Knock-down% PFF Grade QB Rating
                            ALL 2848 62.67% 19781 7.8 115 60 7.7% 14.5% 109.4 91.9
                            NP 1913 66.26% 15091 8.0 85 39 0.0% 0.0% 107.0 97.3
                            P 935 52.62% 4690 7.0 30 21 23.5% 44.1% 2.5 77.0
                            LT 147 54.05% 805 7.3 7 8 20.4% 42.2% 2.8 68.3
                            LG 104 50.62% 607 7.5 4 2 16.3% 36.5% 4.8 81.7
                            C 72 60.78% 391 7.7 2 2 18.1% 44.4% 1.7 81.4
                            RG 99 51.25% 588 7.4 3 2 15.2% 27.3% 7.0 77.5
                            RT 93 52.46% 387 6.3 2 4 26.9% 45.2% -6.7 55.8
                            TE 27 54.55% 266 12.1 3 0 11.1% 29.6% 2.8 137.5
                            RB 41 45.45% 298 9.0 0 1 14.6% 39.0% 6.1 65.0
                            QB 31 45.45% 73 6.6 1 0 61.3% 71.0% -9.4 97.9
                            MUL 158 42.17% 431 5.2 0 1 43.0% 62.0% -7.2 53.8
                            UNB 163 58.82% 844 6.2 8 1 14.7% 41.1% 0.6 93.5



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                            • Shawn
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                              • Mar 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              I have no problem with Ben using the God given abilities listed in the above article...

                              I have a problem with Ben using ONLY the aforementioned abilities...

                              They are tools to be used when needed....not used to the exclusion of a planned passing attack...
                              Agreed. IMO, Ben is best when working within a system...and doing his thing when it breaks down...or when you need a special play. But Ben likes to always play like that...and that is what Haley is trying to reign in.
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