Tomlin on Steelers final OTA session

[BURGH86STEEL]

No offense but why does there need to be "studies" or "stats" to back everything up? What happened to a little bit of common freakin' sense in this world. Warming up helps avoid injuries. Period.

Anyone that has played a sport or even went to a gym could tell you that and they don't need to have some "study" to prove it. What's next?

Evidence based practice. It's better to have some evidence to back up practices then to just assume a practice works. Some evidence suggests that warming up or stretching don't prevent injuries. Athletes and people that stretch and warm up suffer injuries all the time. It is what it is.

I think injuries happen more due to the rigors and harshness of a particular sport.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Anyone else find it surprising they are looking at Tez in the slot? Most I think had him penciled in opposite Taylor.

I'd read somewhere that this is the third down plan. Tez would line up as the starter when there are two CBs in the game, and then move to the slot while Gay plays the outside when he comes into the game.

[steelz09]

Evidence based practice. It's better to have some evidence to back up practices then to just assume a practice works. Some evidence suggests that warming up or stretching don't prevent injuries. Athletes and people that stretch and warm up suffer injuries all the time. It is what it is.

I think injuries happen more due to the rigors and harshness of a particular sport.

It's not assuming. It's common sense but then again common sense isn't so common these days. Articles like that are a waste of time because they provide zero context.. It doesn't provide any relevant information such as what stretches and/or warming up was performed, was it performed correctly, what sports/activities were performed afterwards and what was the time in between the warmups/stretches and the sport/activity performed. I would think those are some key variables that provide context.

Were the athletes olympic sprinters, wrestlers, or say, NFL players... or were the studies based on the olympic ping pong team "stretching" and warming up their wrists before a big match. lol

Injuries can happen regardless but that's not the point here. There is actually more evidence that "warming up" (increasing blood flow to muscles) before more rigorous activities is recommended than stretching in most instances (except maybe gymnastics and things like that).

[BURGH86STEEL]

It's not assuming. It's common sense but then again common sense isn't so common these days. Articles like that are a waste of time because they provide zero context.. It doesn't provide any relevant information such as what stretches and/or warming up was performed, was it performed correctly, what sports/activities were performed afterwards and what was the time in between the warmups/stretches and the sport/activity performed. I would think those are some key variables that provide context.

Were the athletes olympic sprinters, wrestlers, or say, NFL players... or were the studies based on the olympic ping pong team "stretching" and warming up their wrists before a big match. lol

Injuries can happen regardless but that's not the point here. There is actually more evidence that "warming up" (increasing blood flow to muscles) before more rigorous activities is recommended than stretching in most instances (except maybe gymnastics and things like that).

Warming up increases blood flow and stretching may help athletes feel more limber but that doesn't mean those factors help to prevent injuries in football. Players are going to get injured playing football regardless if they warm up or not, train all year round, come in well conditioned, ect ect ect. Teams can search high and low but there is very little teams can do to prevent injuries from happening in the game of football. The human body wasn't meant to go through the punishment necessary to play the game of football. The rampant use of PEDs probably puts players at a higher risk of injury more then any other factor.

[steelz09]

Warming up increases blood flow and stretching may help athletes feel more limber but that doesn't mean those factors help to prevent injuries in football. Players are going to get injured playing football regardless if they warm up or not, train all year round, come in well conditioned, ect ect ect. Teams can search high and low but there is very little teams can do to prevent injuries from happening in the game of football. The human body wasn't meant to go through the punishment necessary to play the game of football. The rampant use of PEDs probably puts players at a higher risk of injury more then any other factor.

Nothing can guarantee prevention of injuries. Most people would agree that both stretching and warming up is a necessity in football. I think it's moronic that a head coach wouldn't require that after decades of first hand experience.

By the way, what do you know about what the human body was meant for? You know what? Spare me.

[thor75]

It's not assuming. It's common sense but then again common sense isn't so common these days. Articles like that are a waste of time because they provide zero context.. It doesn't provide any relevant information such as what stretches and/or warming up was performed, was it performed correctly, what sports/activities were performed afterwards and what was the time in between the warmups/stretches and the sport/activity performed. I would think those are some key variables that provide context.

Were the athletes olympic sprinters, wrestlers, or say, NFL players... or were the studies based on the olympic ping pong team "stretching" and warming up their wrists before a big match. lol

Injuries can happen regardless but that's not the point here. There is actually more evidence that "warming up" (increasing blood flow to muscles) before more rigorous activities is recommended than stretching in most instances (except maybe gymnastics and things like that).

You hit on a lot of holes in the way study results are presented. It would be interesting to see the number of hamstring/muscle pull and tendon injuries that happen in the offseason compared to those occurred in season. The stress on those particular areas "going in cold" while they are getting back into the swing of things seems far greater than it would after they're deep into the season IMO. I've worked for some big money companies in the past in the construction industry and they are even starting to implement a stretching regimen to begin the day. BP, Conoco Philips, Haliburton they research these things way more in depth than I do. Seems like the evidence is there to me.