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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35317

    Ziggy Hood is running out of time

    Steelers working on Hood’s technique

    Friday - May 31, 2013
    By Mark Kaboly

    There are times when Ziggy Hood looks every bit the part of what the Steelers envisioned when they used their first-round pick on him four years ago.

    Then there are the other times — times that have become too familiar — when Hood resembles a rookie still trying to grasp the basics of transitioning to a 3-4 defensive end in the NFL.

    And now, Hood is running out of time.

    Hood, 26, enters the final year of his contract entrenched as the Steelers starting left defensive end, but he still is a work in progress despite 39 starts over the past three years.

    “You are always going to have things to work on; I am not going to deny that,” Hood said.

    “Last year was a good step for me. It wasn't the season that I would say was the best, but the positives outweighed the negatives.”

    There were plenty of both for Hood.

    There was Ziggy “good” with 24 of his 42 tackles coming over a five-game span in December, including an eight-tackle, one-sack game against San Diego.

    And there was Ziggy “not so good” with one-tackle games against the Jets, Raiders and Browns and being held without a tackle against the Titans despite playing 62 snaps.

    Hood's inconsistencies can be traced to his technique.

    Hood's erratic footwork and hand placement have caused him enough problems that defensive line coach John Mitchell has made it a point of emphasis.

    Linebacker coach Keith Butler acknowledged that last month.

    “Ziggy Hood has some technical stuff that John has to work with him on,” Butler said. “And John knows about that, so we're going to try to get those things clarified and work that out … ”

    Hood has spent the offseason, including the first two weeks of organized team activities, working on being consistent with his footwork and hand placement.

    “If your hand placement and your footwork isn't good, you aren't going to be in the correct position to make a play,” Hood said. “Small things like that will always get you in the right place. It may not get you there all the time, but you will be there more often than not.”

    Hood had issues with both techniques last year.

    There were times when his bad footwork put him out of position, which made him easier to block. Other times, improper hand placement made it impossible for him to shed a block and make a tackle even though he was in position to make a play.

    “I have to keep doing what I am doing with the technique and continue to work,” Hood said. “I can always tweak my technique and keep getting better. The most important thing I do is to make sure I do my job so the outside guys can make the play.”

    The Steelers had the No. 1 overall defense last year and were fourth against the run, and they have options if Hood doesn't perform well.

    Cameron Heyward, a first-round pick in 2011, is backing up Hood and Brett Keisel.

    Keisel, who will turn 35 in September, also is in the final year of his deal, which might make it difficult to part with Hood after this year.

    “My contract is the last thing on my mind,” Hood said.

    “The only thing on my mind is getting better each and every day. What can I do today to make sure I don't repeat whatever I did wrong yesterday. The ultimate goal this year is to be the best I can possibly be.”

    How good can that be?

    “Hopefully great,” Hood said.

    [URL]http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/4113840-74/hood-footwork-placement#ixzz2V0kH5RoL[/URL]
  • Coolie Man
    Backup
    • Mar 2013
    • 351

    #2
    Officially a bust

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    • NorthCoast
      Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 26228

      #3
      If a guy is in year 4 and still working on consistent technique, for a 1st rd pick, then I would have to say this is at best a semi-bust and at worst a complete miss. Ziggy's biggest problem is not being able to beat a man-on-man matchup. I've seen him get pushed around quite a bit by OL. I remember posters being completely stoked on this guy. Seems we aren't the experts we think we are....

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      • nova
        Rookie
        • Apr 2013
        • 16

        #4
        My question is, if the line coach and the LB coach both have issues with Hood's technique, why the heck didn't they coach him up during the season? Or if they couldn't coach him up, sit his butt on the bench?

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        • JDSteeler
          Backup
          • Oct 2008
          • 449

          #5
          Originally posted by Coolie Man
          Officially a bust
          I've been saying this for, atleast, 3 freaking years!!!

          The guy is weak for a 300LB'r...He gets blocked on his ass
          by RB's!!!

          He has no game, he has no motor, and he has no heart.

          The only thing I see him do is play "Patty-Cake" with the tackle
          across from him.

          He avoids contact!! He's soft as can be...

          The best thing I heard recently, was they wanted to move him inside
          at the Nose...HA FREAKING HA...that's a joke!!

          He would get Bull-dozed everytime...and then our Run-D would be
          #32 in the league.

          Hood needs to come to a realization pretty fast...he's on a one year
          deal, and if he screws up, I don't think there is another team that would
          put up with his lazy ass effort...period!!

          So basically we have two lazy asses on the left-side of our D...96 and 56!!

          Just watch what every team tries to do to us in the run game...I bet u that they
          run right at 96 and 56, because neither of them can hold the point!!!

          JD
          The Pittsburgh Steelers: There is NO other Team!

          http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/q...6jpg-1-1-1.jpg

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23776

            #6
            Originally posted by Coolie Man
            Officially a bust
            ...or perhaps we ruin very good players coming out of college by forcing them to play a technique that takes away what they do best so the can "occupy blockers"
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Coolie Man
              Backup
              • Mar 2013
              • 351

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              ...or perhaps we ruin very good players coming out of college by forcing them to play a technique that takes away what they do best so the can "occupy blockers"
              Good point. But bust of a pick. Don't draft him in the first place.

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              • Eddie Spaghetti
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 4123

                #8
                hood sucks, no matter what some of the "experts" here would have you believe.

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                • Shoe
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4044

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  ...or perhaps we ruin very good players coming out of college by forcing them to play a technique that takes away what they do best so the can "occupy blockers"
                  You're assuming he had potential to be something else, in a different scheme. Granted... he wasn't suited to occupying blockers. But he's not some Geno Atkins who we've made into a nobody. He would be a ham & egger in a 4-3, just like he is in our D. He's just somebody who was greatly overdrafted.
                  If he was drafted more to his ability, we would probably look at him in a different light. He's Gerald Williams; he's Keith Willis; he's Donald Evans and Nolan Harrison.

                  The problem, is that we made the same mistake two years later in drafting Cam Heyward. Heyward, like Hood, is a ham & egger.
                  I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                  • Dupree
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 36

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shoe
                    You're assuming he had potential to be something else, in a different scheme. Granted... he wasn't suited to occupying blockers. But he's not some Geno Atkins who we've made into a nobody. He would be a ham & egger in a 4-3, just like he is in our D. He's just somebody who was greatly overdrafted.
                    If he was drafted more to his ability, we would probably look at him in a different light. He's Gerald Williams; he's Keith Willis; he's Donald Evans and Nolan Harrison.

                    The problem, is that we made the same mistake two years later in drafting Cam Heyward. Heyward, like Hood, is a ham & egger.
                    I am gonna disagree.

                    Hood would be okay in a 4-3, hes not Geno Atkins, but Atkins was a legit DPOY candidate, if JJ Watt hadnt had possibly the greatest season for a DE of all time. Atkins would have been DPOY

                    Hood shows he can do okay in a 4-3 when we start slanting and stuff like that.

                    Its almost like Hood's problems are on the mental side mostly, and he has technique issues but again, 4-3 differs. Would he be great ? Nah


                    Heyward is actually really solid, we just group him together with Hood, and use the mentality "If He Can't beat out Hood, he is a bust too"

                    I honestly don't think we give him a chance to beat Hood, check week 17 after Kiesel gets injured, Cam came in and had a really good game.

                    Bonus note: When we played the ravens the first time, Hood had 11 tackles on the year, Heyward comes in and gets 5 tackles THAT GAME, in relief of the injured Hood.


                    Heyward is nowhere near as bad as some steelers boards make him out to be, we just tie him in with Ziggy because they were "the first round pick DEs"

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                    • phillyesq
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 7568

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                      hood sucks, no matter what some of the "experts" here would have you believe.
                      Yup. Hard worker, seems to be a solid citizen, but not a particularly good football player.

                      His apologists neglect to mention that he essentially plays as a 4-3 DT in the nickel and dime, and still gets no pressure on the QB.

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                      • Shoe
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4044

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dupree
                        Heyward is actually really solid, we just group him together with Hood, and use the mentality "If He Can't beat out Hood, he is a bust too"

                        I honestly don't think we give him a chance to beat Hood, check week 17 after Kiesel gets injured, Cam came in and had a really good game.

                        Bonus note: When we played the ravens the first time, Hood had 11 tackles on the year, Heyward comes in and gets 5 tackles THAT GAME, in relief of the injured Hood.


                        Heyward is nowhere near as bad as some steelers boards make him out to be, we just tie him in with Ziggy because they were "the first round pick DEs"
                        Please give me a reasonable explanation as to why the coaching staff would continue to make him sit behind such a pedestrian player like Hood. Because it is too simplistic to just say "he isn't getting the chance" or "LeBeau likes veterans". I'm not ready to completely right him off mind you... I still think there is a (small) chance that he emerges as something more than a decent DE--But he has to do it now.

                        This is his 3rd season. He's had time to get acclimated. He has had no injuries holding him back (knock on wood). And he has *what we all see as* an average DE in front of him (not to mention an aging stalwart on the other side). The time for him is now.

                        If he doesn't win the job coming out of camp, I would say it is all she wrote (unless of course... Hood does finally emerge as a star! )
                        I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                        • Dupree
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 36

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shoe
                          Please give me a reasonable explanation as to why the coaching staff would continue to make him sit behind such a pedestrian player like Hood. Because it is too simplistic to just say "he isn't getting the chance" or "LeBeau likes veterans". I'm not ready to completely right him off mind you... I still think there is a (small) chance that he emerges as something more than a decent DE--But he has to do it now.

                          This is his 3rd season. He's had time to get acclimated. He has had no injuries holding him back (knock on wood). And he has *what we all see as* an average DE in front of him (not to mention an aging stalwart on the other side). The time for him is now.

                          If he doesn't win the job coming out of camp, I would say it is all she wrote (unless of course... Hood does finally emerge as a star! )
                          Our team really does hate young guys starting, though.

                          Ed Bouchette, has shared saying he has heard they Heyward is better and will be given the chance to unseat him this year.

                          I don't know if Heyward will unseat Hood, but everyone sits on our D. Only Fat Casey got the nod (his rookie year)

                          Yes Heyward has had 2, but he was drafted TO SIT. The Steelers made it very clear that they drafted him as a BPA deal, and he was to wait (presumably on Kiesel)

                          I recall when Polamalu rode the Bench he was nicknamed Bustamalu, we were sure wrong about that.


                          Heyward did recieve a lot more snaps this year (after getting his time in week 11 I believe) than years past and he was drafted to sit and wait behind Kiesel.

                          I think that Heyward will not recieve the starting job as they will want Hood to play the final year of his contract out to see what they got, and Heyward will get the nod to get a lot more snaps on the field (quite a bit more) for a more constant D-Line rotation.

                          Edit: Timmons sat for a few years himself, and now he is one of the better ILBs in the NFL
                          Last edited by Dupree; 06-02-2013, 08:34 PM.

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                          • Shoe
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4044

                            #14
                            The Timmons comparison isn't quite right. Timmons was trying to make a switch to a completely new league, new defensive system, and new position. Heyward played in a 3-4 at OSU.
                            I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                            • flippy
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 17088

                              #15
                              I'm not ready to write off Hood as a bust just yet. He finished the season strong and has something to build off going into this season. Playing DE in a 3-4 is not the easiest of positions. Outside of Aaron Smith and Richard Seymour, have there really been any other truly great 3-4 DEs?

                              Keisel got good, but it took him a while, but I remember for years people saying he was weak at the point of attack and couldn't hold up against the run.

                              And if we really dig into the numbers, Aaron Smith only had 50+ tackles 3 seasons and Keisel twice. Could Hood have had more tackles? Sure. But many more than 42 isn't typical for his position. 3 sacks aren't that bad either from his position.

                              There are more positives than negatives in his game. The problem is we drafted him with a first round pick. If we took him later, people would look at him differently. I think we want All Pros with our 1st round picks. And we didn't get it. But that doesn't make him a horrible player. It's not his fault Colbert and company drafted him #1.

                              And we're always going to compare him to Smitty who always took on a double team. That's the problem across our D line. Everyone of our guys can be handled with 1 blocker except for Casey who's now gone too. It puts even more pressure on our LBs.

                              All that said, I think Hood can get over the hump and be a solid player.
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