Does Jarvis Jones Look undersized and does it matter?

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  • supersteeler
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2012
    • 1089

    Does Jarvis Jones Look undersized and does it matter?

    I read an article at Steelers depot where Mark Kaboly commented on Jones and his size. He said he looks kind of small compared to Jason Worlids and Lamar Woodley.
    He does look that way but at 245 that should be big enough to play that position, although the article said he may struggle against the run getting off blocks on the edge.

    I don't know if his size really matters, if he can do what the Steelers expect of him. He has the speed, now its a matter of technique and learning the defense.
    James Harrison was considered small too in height but he made up for it getting an edge in leverage, however he was a workout freak who had the power to beat his man getting to the QB, and one of the best in stopping the run.

    Btw, If he's considered on the lean side maybe beside getting to the QB he'll do well in pass coverage something we could use from the OLB position.
    Last edited by supersteeler; 05-04-2013, 08:48 AM.
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  • DukieBoy
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3488

    #2
    Kaboly's frame of reference may skew things a bit. Or, his motivation to draw attention through negativity may play a part.

    I suppose he might have said that James Harrison is too short, or Lamarr Woodley is too _______ . Jarvis Jones has proofed himself where it really matters, on the field, rather than in Kaboly's report.





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    • SS Laser
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2009
      • 1929

      #3
      Originally posted by supersteeler
      I read an article at Steelers depot where Mark Kaboly commented on Jones and his size. He said he looks kind of small compared to Jason Worlids and Lamar Woodley.
      He does look that way but at 245 that should be big enough to play that position, although the article said he may struggle against the run getting off blocks on the edge.

      I don't know if his size really matters, if he can do what the Steelers expect of him. He has the speed, now its a matter of technique and learning the defense.
      James Harrison was considered small too in height but he made up for it getting an edge in leverage, however he was a workout freak who had the power to beat his man getting to the QB, and one of the best in stopping the run.

      Btw, If he's considered on the lean side maybe beside getting to the QB he'll do well in pass coverage something we could use from the OLB position.
      I don't care what Kaboly said. My eyes see a "smaller" lean frame player compared to some of our other OLB. I think maybe Chad Brown or Haggens maybe had the same build. It does concern me right now. Will see after the season is over. I don't care what he did in college. Time to step it up. I also wonder if the steelers will bulk up a already "slower" player? He needs to add strength forsure. Some rumors during the draft have me worried about Jones offseason conditioning. But then it came out he was working out were Ike does. So that should be fine. Excited to see how he does in preseason games.
      Last edited by SS Laser; 05-04-2013, 12:08 PM.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #4
        I dont care what the article says. JJ talked about playing against Neon LeVeon in college and he mentioned Neon was bigger than him. Now we're hearing JJ is 245 and Neon is 230 and they're both small. Comparing JJ to Wood and World isn't fair. Wood ate Casey Hampton and World got huge like a DLineman this last offseason. Those guys are monsters and neither is built to play ROLB where I expect the guy to be a little leaner.

        They'll both add 10-15 lbs in the next year like every other rookie. No biggie.
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        • steelsnis
          Starter
          • Dec 2008
          • 980

          #5
          Woodley and Worilds were both defensive ends coming out of college. So of
          course they were bigger than Jones. JJ is an outside backer used to playing in a 3/4 scheme. Seems like a great fit. Of course he'll get bigger and stronger in the NFL. As long as he keeps his quickness and burst he'll be a beast.

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          • DukieBoy
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 3488

            #6
            Originally posted by steelsnis
            Woodley and Worilds were both defensive ends coming out of college. So of
            course they were bigger than Jones. JJ is an outside backer used to playing in a 3/4 scheme. Seems like a great fit. Of course he'll get bigger and stronger in the NFL. As long as he keeps his quickness and burst he'll be a beast.
            There's a good point right there.





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            • B&GinNC
              Backup
              • Feb 2013
              • 184

              #7
              Greg Lloyd played the position at 225.

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              • DukieBoy
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3488

                #8
                Originally posted by B&GinNC
                Greg Lloyd played the position at 225.
                There's another good point right there.





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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  #9
                  Jones hasnt proven himself in the NFL yet... size will be a concern until he shows out.
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                  • pittpete
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 6825

                    #10
                    Von Miller #58 LB
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                    Height: 6-3 Weight: 237
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                    • Shoe
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 4044

                      #11
                      Originally posted by B&GinNC
                      Greg Lloyd played the position at 225.
                      That was before HGH. That's also 20 less years of eating hormonal meats and other foods that have been processed, modified, any which way. Who knows what it all does in terms of human size. But it does something.

                      I'm average height, but my gosh--middle school kids seem big to me. People today are bigger than they were just 15-20 years ago.
                      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                      • BigRob
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1381

                        #12
                        I'm not concerned with Jones' size. He's about the same size as Joey Porter. Porter played the position extremely well.

                        Jones also has very violent hands.
                        Here comes the BOOM!
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                        • SteelCrazy
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5049

                          #13
                          jarvis is more than big enough
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                          • 8467thekraken
                            Starter
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 720

                            #14
                            Strength and speed are more important. Bruce Lee was a BMF and he wasn't a big dude.

                            Size isn't everything. Especially at OLB.

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                            • steel50
                              Benchwarmer
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 52

                              #15
                              Jones is big and fast enough he is going to have a great career

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