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  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    Steelers Meeting with Winston Justice

    Per PFT:

    [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/29/steelers-browns-meeting-with-winston-justice/[/URL]

    Makes sense as a depth option at OT.
  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Just call Max already!
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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Just call Max already!
      Agreed....
      Trolls are people too.

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      • SteelSpain
        Backup
        • Apr 2013
        • 269

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Just call Max already!
        Right now!!!!!!!
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        • phillyesq
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #5
          I wonder if Max is still holding out for a starting opportunity? Or if the coaching staff is moving on because he does not fit the new scheme?

          I agree - call Starks and bring him in. Even if as a backup initially, he's almost certain to play.

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          • BigRob
            Pro Bowler
            • Jul 2008
            • 1381

            #6
            I like Max. I really do. But he does not fit what the new o-line coach and Haley likes in an o-line. Max never gets to the second level and he is really not a good fit in a zone based scheme.
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            • SidSmythe
              Hall of Famer
              • Sep 2008
              • 4708

              #7
              Not sure if people noticed last year but Max Starks was pulling from LT fairly often. He moved well but probably not well enough.
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              • BigRob
                Pro Bowler
                • Jul 2008
                • 1381

                #8
                Originally posted by SidSmythe
                Not sure if people noticed last year but Max Starks was pulling from LT fairly often. He moved well but probably not well enough.
                Our run game was putrid last year. Max was a part that. He can pass protect, but he suffers in his run blocking.
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                • grotonsteel
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2810

                  #9
                  I would prefer Max Starks. Ben trusts Max Starks and Max has always delivered more often than not.

                  There should be a fair competition between Adams, Gilbert and Max for LT spot in TC.
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                  • SteelerOfDeVille
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 9069

                    #10
                    Originally posted by grotonsteel
                    There should be a fair competition between Adams, Gilbert and Max for LT spot in TC.
                    I think that's part of the problem... If you call Max, *we all* have a bias, including the team/coaches/Ben.... You'd have to significantly out-play Max to win Max's long-held job...

                    Basically, you just hope the guys you have can get it done -- and look for good bargains, salary-wise -- and if they can't, you hope Max is still available.
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                    • Chadman
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      #11
                      Winston Justice wouldn't be signed for depth. He'd be signed to start. This would slow the development of one of the young OT's on the roster.

                      Not saying it's a bad thing, but is that the right call? Or should Gilbert & Adams get thrown into the fire?
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                      • Rara
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1305

                        #12
                        I would think that Justice would be depth, which is what I would want...but is Justice really considered an upgrade though..? I highly doubt so.
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                        2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
                        3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
                        7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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                        • Eddie Spaghetti
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 4123

                          #13
                          this guy is a smart, tough football player.

                          never a bad thing to have on your team.

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                          • phillyesq
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chadman
                            Winston Justice wouldn't be signed for depth. He'd be signed to start. This would slow the development of one of the young OT's on the roster.

                            Not saying it's a bad thing, but is that the right call? Or should Gilbert & Adams get thrown into the fire?
                            Are you doing what I did initially and confusing him with Eric Winston? Because Eric Winston would be brought in to start, no question. Winston Justice, on the other hand, I think is likely just a depth player.

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                            • BigRob
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1381

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                              this guy is a smart, tough football player.

                              never a bad thing to have on your team.
                              I didn't realize what a good season Justice had last year. If we could land him, it would really solidify our line.

                              [URL]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/17/snapshot-pbe-offensive-tackles/[/URL]

                              Top of the Tackles

                              When you think of the top pass protecting tackles in the league, how long is it before the name Winston Justice springs to mind? It’s gone largely unnoticed but in his 173 pass blocks he’s given up just two hurries, compared to his teammate Anthony Castonzo who has given up 19 quarterback disruptions on his 247 pass blocks. Quite the discrepancy. Castonzo is far from the bottom, so this more an indication of how rock solid Justice has been and how important it is the Colts keep him healthy.
                              While Justice has the top rating there’s always more interest in left tackles, so who leads the way there? Well, step forward Ryan Clady who is picking the right time to produce his best form with his contract coming up. He’s building himself a case for Joe Thomas-type money with the Cleveland Brown left tackle just behind him in the third spot.
                              It’s not a surprise to see Duane Brown fourth, but kudos to Marshall Newhouse who finds himself up in fifth overall. In 2011 he had the lowest score of all left tackles and has taken a giant leap forward. The sight of both Brown and Newhouse so high should act as a reminder to be patient with tackles, with both men having terrible seasons when they started.
                              1 Winston Justice IND 173 2 99.1
                              2 Ryan Clady DEN 240 5 98.4
                              3 Joe Thomas CLV 245 7 97.8
                              4 Duane Brown HST 197 6 97.7
                              5 Marshall Newhouse GB 263 8 97.3
                              5 Branden Albert KC 233 8 97.3
                              5 Jake Long MIA 213 7 97.3
                              8 Jeff Backus DET 246 9 97.2
                              8 Andrew Whitworth CIN 242 8 97.2
                              8 Matt Kalil MIN 237 9 97.2
                              11 William Beatty NYG 189 8 96.8
                              12 Sebastian Vollmer NE 232 10 96.7
                              12 Trent Williams WAS 165 7 96.7
                              14 D'Brickashaw Ferguson NYJ 191 9 96.5
                              15 Orlando Franklin DEN 238 11 96.3


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