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  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    Vince Williams

    I'm not a draftnik, but I think the Steelers may have gotten themselves a gem at the end of the 6th round. I think a couple of my fellow posters even called it. I'm excited about this selection.
  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    #2
    I agree. I like him a lot. See my sig...
    Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

    1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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    • SteelerOfDeVille
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 9069

      #3
      very happy with this draft...
      2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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      • steel50
        Benchwarmer
        • Apr 2013
        • 52

        #4
        Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
        I'm not a draftnik, but I think the Steelers may have gotten themselves a gem at the end of the 6th round. I think a couple of my fellow posters even called it. I'm excited about this selection.
        I love this pick he will make the team

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        • B&GinNC
          Backup
          • Feb 2013
          • 184

          #5
          As an FSU alum/fan who watches the team a lot, Vince Williams was always around the ball. Guy is a playmaker. Glad to have him.

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          • Big Ern McCracken
            Backup
            • Mar 2013
            • 130

            #6
            Today may have made the draft class for us.

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            • Rara
              Pro Bowler
              • Mar 2013
              • 1305

              #7
              Thomas as our strong safety...
              (Still need Clark's replacement...)
              Cortez, C.Brown, Hawthorne, King, Van Dyke as our corners....
              Woodley, Timmons, Williams, Jones as our linebackers...
              Hood Ta'amu, Hayward as our front three....

              WHAT A HELL OF A DEFENSIVE GROUP FOR YEARS TO COME!!
              2022 NFL Mock Draft
              -------------------------------------------
              1. Malik Willis, QB; Liberty
              2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
              3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
              7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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              • hawaiiansteel
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 35649

                #8
                Vince Williams to get opportunity to plug inside linebacker hole with Steelers

                May 2, 2013
                By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

                If this draft had been based on needs, then the Steelers last weekend ignored one of their neediest positions -- inside linebacker. Or did they?

                They passed on Manti Te'o, passed on Kevin Minter, passed on Michael Mauti. Just as they passed on Penn State's Sean Lee four years ago in favor of Jason Worilds, the Steelers looked to fill their need at outside linebacker before they worried about the inside.

                Linebackers coach Keith Butler made his pitch to general manager Kevin Colbert to draft an inside linebacker to pair with first-round pick Jarvis Jones.

                "If they had done what I felt like doing, we would have taken one in the second round," Butler said. "As I told them, last time we picked first and second with linebackers we won the Super Bowl two years later. We didn't go to it, we won it. I tried to make that argument, it didn't work. It worked for one round, but it didn't work for the second round."

                That draft Butler referred to was the first with Mike Tomlin as Steelers coach (2007), when they drafted inside linebacker Lawrence Timmons in the first round and outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley in the second. Both have made their impacts on defense inside and out.

                Timmons was their best defensive player in 2012, and Larry Foote not only was their second-leading tackler, but also an all-around productive player with four sacks, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and 11 quarterback pressures. He also will turn 33 years old next month, and there is little else behind those two on the inside.

                The question the Steelers cannot yet answer not only would be who ultimately will succeed Foote, but also who would replace Foote or Timmons this season if an injury requires it?

                They thought they had that covered last year when they drafted Sean Spence in the third round. He had a brilliant preseason, leading the Steelers in tackles before his left knee was badly injured in the final game against Carolina. A nerve injury was the most serious, and the Steelers doubt he will play again because of it.

                "We're going to ride with him for another year I think," Butler said. "Hopefully, his knee will respond, and he can play again. I don't think he is going to be [able to do that]. It will be miraculous if he does come back. It will be miraculous if he comes back next year. We are going to take a chance on him and see if he can come back. To me, he is worth every bit of that."

                So they knew heading into 2013 they not only would be without Spence, but also had little else to count on behind their two starters.

                They did not think strongly enough about veteran Stevenson Sylvester to tender him an offer as a restricted free agent. That made him an unrestricted free agent. He reacted to the indifference the rest of the NFL paid him by signing with the Steelers last month, for only one year, which will make him a free agent again in 2014.
                Butler acknowledged it will be a make-or-break season for Sylvester.

                "That is something I talked to him about at the end of the season. ... Sly was injured. We had little nagging injuries here and there. We had a few of those last year. We have to eliminate those and keep ourselves in position where we are available and can play during the year and not be sitting on the sideline watching the game with me because they have an injury. So we have to do things to try and correct that if we can."

                That brought them in the sixth round Saturday to Vince Williams, whose resume looks like one right out of the Foote biography. Like Foote, Williams is 6 feet 1 and started two seasons at middle linebacker at a big school (Florida State). There, he spearheaded a defense that led the country in fewest yards allowed per play (3.86) and ranked second in total yards allowed per game and sixth in points allowed and rushing yards allowed.

                The middle linebacker in that defense must have done something right.

                "The thing that attracts us to him is that he will hit you," Butler said. "There are two things you can't teach linebackers in this league. One of them is how fast are you going to be and the other one is will you hit somebody.

                "That is something I have said time and time again. I have always believed this even when I played and from watching the guys I have played with. Two things that I am not going to be able to teach you -- one of them is to hit you and the other one is to run."

                One reason the 250-pound Williams was not drafted higher was that Florida State replaced him with a defensive back on passing downs. At least, Butler noted, they did not put another linebacker in for him in those situations. Foote once came off the field on third downs, too; now he stays.

                "We will make that judgment when we get to training camp whether he is capable of being a three-down linebacker as opposed to being a two-down linebacker," Butler said.

                The judgment on whether they have someone to replace Foote in a future lineup will come later.

                [URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/vince-williams-to-get-opportunity-to-plug-inside-linebacker-hole-with-steelers-685866/#ixzz2S9HAl7jh[/URL]

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                • SteelSpain
                  Backup
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 269

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dee Dub
                  I agree. I like him a lot. See my sig...
                  You guessed three. Congratulations.
                  Steeler Nation in Spain

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #10
                    Originally posted by B&GinNC
                    As an FSU alum/fan who watches the team a lot, Vince Williams was always around the ball. Guy is a playmaker. Glad to have him.

                    Not to be smart, but why did he last until Round 6 then? Living in Florida I get to see lots of FSU games and never really said "Wow" who is Williams.
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Not to be smart, but why did he last until Round 6 then? Living in Florida I get to see lots of FSU games and never really said "Wow" who is Williams.
                      Vince Williams is a two-down LB, even at FSU they took him out on passing downs because he is a liability in coverage.

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                      • BigRob
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1381

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        Vince Williams is a two-down LB, even at FSU they took him out on passing downs because he is a liability in coverage.
                        Thats ok. The NFL still uses 2 down players at the ILB position in a 3-4.
                        Here comes the BOOM!
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                        • steelz09
                          Administrator
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4675

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Not to be smart, but why did he last until Round 6 then? Living in Florida I get to see lots of FSU games and never really said "Wow" who is Williams.
                          Not to be smart but why would you say "Wow, who is Williams" when you obviously already know who he is?
                          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                          • SteelSpain
                            Backup
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 269

                            #14
                            Can he covers receivers? Keith Butler says camps will show.

                            [URL="http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/5/2/4292754/steelers-linebacker-depth-chart-nfl-draft-vince-williams"]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/5/2/4292754/steelers-linebacker-depth-chart-nfl-draft-vince-williams[/URL]
                            Steeler Nation in Spain

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                            • SteelerOfDeVille
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 9069

                              #15
                              Story says he was taken out and replaced with a DB, not another LB... in other words, it could have been "scheme" that caused them to take him out, not his coverage ability. We'll find out in camp...
                              2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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