Huey Richardson 2

[Dee Dub]

Do you honestly think he'll see the field much this year? I'm not being negative, I'm legitimately asking.

Why not. Can't compare the past when this is the highest OLB the Steelers have drafted while in their 3-4 and one who has actually played OLB in a 3-4. He isnt the typical tweener who is making the change to OLB.

[Dee Dub]

OK, I see him as a specialist maybe. Do you think he'll ever learn to be stout against the run?? Will he be able to cover TE's? Do you just see him as that pass rush specialist?

Go back to all of the OLB for the Steelers in their 3-4. They all had to learn how to play the run and drop in coverage. And they had to do it while adjusting to a new position. Jones has a leg up on them.

[D Rock]

OK, I see him as a specialist maybe. Do you think he'll ever learn to be stout against the run?? Will he be able to cover TE's? Do you just see him as that pass rush specialist?

he already can play the run. He had a crazy ridiculous amount of tackles for loss the past two years. He also had pretty darn good total tackle numbers.


Most 3-4 OLBs are one-trick pass rushing ponies. James Harrison was different because he could do it all. It showed up in his tackle stats being far above other 3-4 OLBs. Jones can certainly come close to those numbers I think.

[NJ-STEELER]

**** so much for the 'brass is high on worldis' folks


what a waste of a mid 2nd round pick when we were a championship caliber team

[flippy]

I love Jones. Never thought he'd get to us. He was so productive. Have to admit, I was a little bummed at first because I though we were gonna end up getting Star and he went 3 picks ahead of us. But this is a great pick. I guess I was thinking Star was the best defensive player in the draft. Star going to Carolina just felt so deflating. But Jones looks like the next great ROLB. Fits perfectly. And that's the only hole on the team where we really don't have a legit player.

[papillon]

Whew, some guys have Jones labeled a bust and others have him being our starting ROLB in September. There is a fella on the team named Worilds that evidently made James Harrison expendable. I doubt Jones is the starting ROLB and Worilds specialty (at this point in time) is pass rushing. Unless Worilds fails completely I don't think Jones is seeing the field much, injuries are another story.

Te'o, Minter, Brown or Jonathan Banks in round two and really throw the "you have to score 11ty billion points to win" crowd into a tizzy.

Pappy

[Dee Dub]

Whew, some guys have Jones labeled a bust and others have him being our starting ROLB in September. There is a fella on the team named Worilds that evidently made James Harrison expendable. I doubt Jones is the starting ROLB and Worilds specialty (at this point in time) is pass rushing. Unless Worilds fails completely I don't think Jones is seeing the field much, injuries are another story.

Te'o, Minter or Brown in round two and really throw the "you have to score 11ty billion points to win" crowd into a tizzy.

Pappy

I dont think it was Jason Worilds that made James Harrison Expendable. I think it was James Harrison who made James Harrison expendable. His age, injuries, and not willing to take the reasonable cut was more to do with it than anything Worilds has done.

And I disagree with you. Jones has a chance to start from day one. He is the first true 3-4 OLB the Steelers have drafted for their 3-4.

[papillon]

I dont think it was Jason Worilds that made James Harrison Expendable. I think it was James Harrison who made James Harrison expendable. His age, injuries, and not willing to take the reasonable cut was more to do with it than anything Worilds has done.

And I disagree with you. Jones has a chance to start from day one. He is the first true 3-4 OLB the Steelers have drafted for their 3-4.

He has a chance, yes, he'll have to prove he's better than Worilds though, the Steelers don't typically hand a starting job to a rookie and in particular the ROLB job. I still think Worilds allowed the Steelers to send James packing, along with his reluctance to take a pay cut.

So far your mock is spot on.

Pappy

[Dee Dub]

He has a chance, yes, he'll have to prove he's better than Worilds though, the Steelers don't typically hand a starting job to a rookie and in particular the ROLB job. I still think Worilds allowed the Steelers to send James packing, along with his reluctance to take a pay cut.

So far your mock is spot on.

Pappy

Again this is not your typical situation. He is a true 3-4 OLB. Those in the past were being converted. And the Steelers already are saying they believe he to be special...

"He definitely is one of the guys I talked about the other day as being a special player in this draft," general manager Kevin Colbert said. "He's a solid kid, a great player. He was dominant at a major college. He plays the run, chases the ball and most important he gets after the passer.
"It's really just a great honor to have this kid join our team."

"It was a fun and easy evaluation," coach Mike Tomlin said. "You look at the outside linebackers in the 3-4 defenses, usually there's a projection involved. This was an easy projection ... very little guesswork.
"He excelled in what they asked him to do and he'll be asked to do similar things here."


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[thor75]

I didn't like him as much as other guys, but he hasn't done anything wrong to me, so I hope he beasts out next year, however much time he gets playing. Woodley looking over his shoulder?

[papillon]

Again this is not your typical situation. He is a true 3-4 OLB. Those in the past were being converted. And the Steelers already are saying they believe he to be special...

"He definitely is one of the guys I talked about the other day as being a special player in this draft," general manager Kevin Colbert said. "He's a solid kid, a great player. He was dominant at a major college. He plays the run, chases the ball and most important he gets after the passer.
"It's really just a great honor to have this kid join our team."

"It was a fun and easy evaluation," coach Mike Tomlin said. "You look at the outside linebackers in the 3-4 defenses, usually there's a projection involved. This was an easy projection ... very little guesswork.
"He excelled in what they asked him to do and he'll be asked to do similar things here."


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Hey, I'm on your side, I just don't think the Steelers will hand him the job on day one and make it his to lose. When you get the best OLB in the draft and he's a 3-4 OLB and you run a 3-4 base defense and you get him at 1.17 you have to be very happy. With all the talent being rated as 2nd, 3rd or 4th round talent to get one of the guys actually projected to be round 1 talent is awesome. Now, lets hope splash plays are his specialty, on passing downs to start.

Pappy

[RuthlessBurgher]

He has a chance, yes, he'll have to prove he's better than Worilds though, the Steelers don't typically hand a starting job to a rookie and in particular the ROLB job. I still think Worilds allowed the Steelers to send James packing, along with his reluctance to take a pay cut.

So far your mock is spot on.

Pappy

My mock was spot on with us taking Jarvis in round 1 for virtually the entire draft season, but then I went and changed everything 2 minutes prior to the start of the draft. Go figure. But I'm more concerned about the Steelers real-life draft than some pretend mock I create...and I'm quite happy with our Steeler draft so far.

[papillon]

My mock was spot on with us taking Jarvis in round 1 for virtually the entire draft season, but then I went and changed everything 2 minutes prior to the start of the draft. Go figure. But I'm more concerned about the Steelers real-life draft than some pretend mock I create...and I'm quite happy with our Steeler draft so far.

Well, I had Miami moving up because of all the picks they had; I didn't realize they wanted to move into the top 5, that had to be expensive. So, I had the right idea, just not the magnitude of what Miami wanted.

Pappy

[hawaiiansteel]

how can we complain about drafting a guy who had 28 sacks and 40 tackles for a loss the past 2 years in the toughest conference in college football?

I guess on-field production isn't as important as how you do at the Underwear Olympics...

[Captain Lemming]

There is a fella on the team named Worilds that evidently made James Harrison expendable.

But we TRIED to sign Harrison to more money than Cincy gave him. Actually, this pick solidifies the fact that they have little confidence that Jason W is the long term answer.

I doubt Jones is the starting ROLB and Worilds specialty (at this point in time) is pass rushing. Unless Worilds fails completely I don't think Jones is seeing the field much, injuries are another story.

I can see this point, just based on the tendancy to bring people in slowly.
While I understand Dees point and agree he has a leg up on the typical Dlineman that must be converted, STILL DL tends to bring people in slowly, even at other positions where there is no position change needed.
I agree with you that Jason is the likey starter game one, HOWEVER at some point in the season I see Jones overtaking him.

Te'o, Minter, Brown or Jonathan Banks in round two and really throw the "you have to score 11ty billion points to win" crowd into a tizzy.

You know dats da truth. Nice