If Jarvis Jones isnt there at 17 and Star Lotulelei is.....

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  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    If Jarvis Jones isnt there at 17 and Star Lotulelei is.....

    ...can the Steelers make a trade that involves Ziggy Hood? Does Star Lotulelei and an additional mid-round pick become an attractive option for the Steelers?
    Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

    1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    I smile everytime I read the hate that Ziggy Hood gets because it reminds me of what we all read about Keenan Lewis just one year ago and how just three months ago everyone was lamenting the fact we were going to lose such a good young CB.

    The problem has never been hood, but the way he is utilized in this defense. Don't you think it is more than a coincidence that Heyward is now getting very similar criticism? It's not the players my friends. You can make a case that maybe we shouldn't have drafted DEs in Round 1 given how we, IMO, misuse our DL, but both of these guys were highly thought of coming out and got picked late in Round 1 right where they were expected.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • SteelerOfDeVille
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 9069

      #3
      would i take star and let the 3 guys fight for 2 spots? yup... if he's BPA, so be it.
      2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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      • phillyesq
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 7568

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        I smile everytime I read the hate that Ziggy Hood gets because it reminds me of what we all read about Keenan Lewis just one year ago and how just three months ago everyone was lamenting the fact we were going to lose such a good young CB.

        The problem has never been hood, but the way he is utilized in this defense. Don't you think it is more than a coincidence that Heyward is now getting very similar criticism? It's not the players my friends. You can make a case that maybe we shouldn't have drafted DEs in Round 1 given how we, IMO, misuse our DL, but both of these guys were highly thought of coming out and got picked late in Round 1 right where they were expected.
        Ziggy Hood has been a disappointment by any measure you use, statistical or otherwise. In the same system, many DEs have put up seasons with 6-8 sacks, from Ray Seals to KVO to Aaron Smith. Hood gets absolutely no push as a pass rusher, and teams often opened games by successfully running straight at Ziggy.

        He's been perhaps marginally better than Nick Eason. I don't fault his effort - he obviously trains hard. He just is not a particularly talented player.

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #5
          Do you even need DEs with Star as your NT?
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Dee Dub
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2010
            • 4652

            #6
            Originally posted by Shawn
            Do you even need DEs with Star as your NT?
            I think Star is better suited for DE in 3-4 like Hiloti Ngata. Yes he can play NT but I believe you could get more out of him as 5-technique. And I believe Ziggy Hood is better suited as a 4-3 DE.
            Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

            1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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            • Captain Lemming
              Legend
              • Jun 2008
              • 16041

              #7
              Originally posted by Shawn
              Do you even need DEs with Star as your NT?
              Start of a "the Legend of" thread?

              Star is not a defensive lineman.....he IS the defensive line.
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              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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              • Captain Lemming
                Legend
                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                #8
                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                Start of a "the Legend of" thread?

                Star is not a defensive lineman.....he IS the defensive line.
                They call his "star" because like a stars effect on planets....you CANNOT ESCAPE HIM.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16041

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                  They call his "star" because like a stars effect on planets....you CANNOT ESCAPE HIM.
                  He is so great regardless of who you already have, your defense WILL "revolve" around "Star"
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #10
                    In this case you pick Star and thank the 16 ahead of you!

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                    • Captain Lemming
                      Legend
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 16041

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sugar
                      In this case you pick Star and thank the 16 ahead of you!
                      that is called a "falling" Star.
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                      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                      TCFCLTC-
                      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #12
                        Was Star's heart issue from the combine resolved? Wonder if that is scaring people and causing him to drop?
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • phillyesq
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 7568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Was Star's heart issue from the combine resolved? Wonder if that is scaring people and causing him to drop?
                          I believe that he has since been medically cleared.

                          Nice work in this thread, Captain Lemming!!

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 16041

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Was Star's heart issue from the combine resolved? Wonder if that is scaring people and causing him to drop?
                            Star is so awesome he doesnt need a heart.
                            His blood flows out of pure fear of what he would do to each cell should they be caught by him doing nothing.
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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • Eddie Spaghetti
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4123

                              #15
                              ziggy hood stinks.

                              arguing otherwise is funny.

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