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  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3938

    #16
    Originally posted by Dee Dub
    I would rather have Sio Moore over Kevin Minter and I was the guy pimping Minter back in October. Sio Moore can play all LB positions in a 3-4 He can cover, he strong, he is quick/fast, and he has mean streak. Add his size (height and weight) and her minds me of.........hmmmmm?...Oh yeah, James Harrison.
    I'm with you on Sio Moore. He moves alot like Timmons and covers very well.

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    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3938

      #17
      Originally posted by Dee Dub
      ..the Steelers board. I believe he will be at least the 5th best overall player on their entire board. And to have him there at 17 is an easy pick. He is the best defensive football player in this draft, he is a big time play maker, he fills a major position of need, and as a defensive player in this draft, he is the most NFL ready. A couple months ago I said no way does he make it out of the top 5. Well it sounds as if that is going to happen. In fact if he makes it past New Orleans at 15, he is going to be a Steeler. And this is going to be huge. As a result I have modified my Steeler mock draft. I would not have a problem with them going LB, LB with Jones and Sio Moore 1 and 2 but I think they will go with Jesse Williams instead.
      I think that statement is scenario related. I have many rated higher than Jones and if one is there I would go with the BPA. Is it possible that Jones will be the BPA? Absolutely...But like I said...Scenario driven.

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      • thor75
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2012
        • 1038

        #18
        I'm thinking he goes to the Jets, even with all the Mingo love there.
        1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
        2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
        3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
        4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
        5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
        5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
        6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
        6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
        7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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        • Sugar
          Hall of Famer
          • Oct 2008
          • 3700

          #19
          I don't have a big feeling about Jones, but I really would prefer Offense first. Yes, I know that this is the D's year. However, I still think that the D is a top 10 D even with the losses we've had in the offseason. The O has struggled as a second tier unit that already lost the #1 RB, #1 WR and the #1 TE will be out half the year. I just think that Offense is needed more.

          That said, even though I scratch my head at some choices, I trust the FO to make the right call. If the choices is Jones, Mingo or some other D player then so be it.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #20
            Originally posted by Sugar
            I don't have a big feeling about Jones, but I really would prefer Offense first. Yes, I know that this is the D's year. However, I still think that the D is a top 10 D even with the losses we've had in the offseason. The O has struggled as a second tier unit that already lost the #1 RB, #1 WR and the #1 TE will be out half the year. I just think that Offense is needed more.

            That said, even though I scratch my head at some choices, I trust the FO to make the right call. If the choices is Jones, Mingo or some other D player then so be it.
            I don't want them to draft offense for the sake of doing so...

            I want them to take the BPA...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #21
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              I don't want them to draft offense for the sake of doing so...

              I want them to take the BPA...
              I see what you're saying and I agree. I just think that they can find BPA on the Offensive side of the ball.

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              • Shoe
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4044

                #22
                Originally posted by Sugar
                I don't have a big feeling about Jones, but I really would prefer Offense first. Yes, I know that this is the D's year. However, I still think that the D is a top 10 D even with the losses we've had in the offseason. The O has struggled as a second tier unit that already lost the #1 RB, #1 WR and the #1 TE will be out half the year. I just think that Offense is needed more.

                That said, even though I scratch my head at some choices, I trust the FO to make the right call. If the choices is Jones, Mingo or some other D player then so be it.
                You're CRAZY. I would be happy if we got Eifert, or AUSTIN, or even one of those Guards that we don't need, but I really don't think it can be argued that O is our bigger need. Our D may be ranked #1, but anyone who watched this team over the past couple years can see the huge deficiency when it comes to playmaking (on our D). The onus for that, must be taken off the shoulders of guys like Polamalu (thereby relieving pressure off him and making him more productive again). We need an injection of youth on D.
                I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                • birtikidis
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4628

                  #23
                  honestly i'd rather have Vacarro, Jones or one of the guards and then take Ertz/minter in the second.I really don't think that Eifert is the guy that I would take....

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Sugar
                    I see what you're saying and I agree. I just think that they can find BPA on the Offensive side of the ball.
                    If a guy like Milliner is available (as projected in at least one mock), I would have to disagree...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • Rara
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1305

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sugar
                      I don't have a big feeling about Jones, but I really would prefer Offense first. Yes, I know that this is the D's year. However, I still think that the D is a top 10 D even with the losses we've had in the offseason. The O has struggled as a second tier unit that already lost the #1 RB, #1 WR and the #1 TE will be out half the year. I just think that Offense is needed more.

                      That said, even though I scratch my head at some choices, I trust the FO to make the right call. If the choices is Jones, Mingo or some other D player then so be it.
                      Notable offensive gems after the first round (starting at 2004):

                      Second round: Ray Rice, RB; Baltimore. Vincent Jackson, WR; San Diego. Greg Jennings, WR; Green Bay. Matt Forte, RB; Chicago, DeSean Jackson, WR; Philadelphia. Rob Gronkowski, TE; New England

                      Third round: Chris Cooley, TE; Washington. Jacoby Jones, WR; Houston. Jamaal Charles, RB; Kansas City. Jimmy Graham, TE; New Orleans.

                      Fourth round: Marion Barber, RB. Dallas. Owen Daniels, TE; Houston. Brandon Marshall, WR; Denver. Aaron Hernandez, TE; New England.

                      Fifth round:Michael Turner, RB; Atlanta. Johnny Knox, WR; Chicago.

                      Sixth round: Antonio Brown, WR; Pittsburgh

                      Seventh round: Marques Colston, WR; New Orleans.
                      =================================================

                      See what I'm getting at, buddy?
                      2022 NFL Mock Draft
                      -------------------------------------------
                      1. Malik Willis, QB; Liberty
                      2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
                      3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
                      7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #26
                        Originally posted by flippy
                        I love watching Jones play and he looks like the perfect ROLB which we don't have. But something tells me he might not be the pick because of his age/health.

                        What I do know is it's gonna be interesting to see who's on the board when we pick. I'm kinda expecting the unexpected.
                        Age not a factor for the Steelers. He is actually one month younger than was Casey Hampton when he was drafted. And he has been medically cleared several times.
                        Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27564

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Rara
                          Notable offensive gems after the first round (starting at 2004):

                          Second round: Ray Rice, RB; Baltimore. Vincent Jackson, WR; San Diego. Greg Jennings, WR; Green Bay. Matt Forte, RB; Chicago, DeSean Jackson, WR; Philadelphia. Rob Gronkowski, TE; New England

                          Third round: Chris Cooley, TE; Washington. Jacoby Jones, WR; Houston. Jamaal Charles, RB; Kansas City. Jimmy Graham, TE; New Orleans.

                          Fourth round: Marion Barber, RB. Dallas. Owen Daniels, TE; Houston. Brandon Marshall, WR; Denver. Aaron Hernandez, TE; New England.

                          Fifth round:Michael Turner, RB; Atlanta. Johnny Knox, WR; Chicago.

                          Sixth round: Antonio Brown, WR; Pittsburgh

                          Seventh round: Marques Colston, WR; New Orleans.
                          =================================================

                          See what I'm getting at, buddy?
                          I see it and I agree... people act like you must pick Eifert in the first or all is lost on offense. We can get a LB or Safety in the first... then stack up on O in the latter rounds.

                          Eifert is not THAT much better than Ertz or Escobar...

                          I also forgot about the RB from Stanford... there are tons of weapons in laters rounds for the O so I have no problem going D in round 1. However, I will be furious if we go heavy on D this year.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Sugar
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3700

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Shoe
                            You're CRAZY. I would be happy if we got Eifert, or AUSTIN, or even one of those Guards that we don't need, but I really don't think it can be argued that O is our bigger need. Our D may be ranked #1, but anyone who watched this team over the past couple years can see the huge deficiency when it comes to playmaking (on our D). The onus for that, must be taken off the shoulders of guys like Polamalu (thereby relieving pressure off him and making him more productive again). We need an injection of youth on D.
                            I've been on this board for almost as long as you and you're just now figuring that out?

                            That said, the Offense was mediocre at best last year and has had a blood-letting of starting talent in the off-season. IMO, the D would still be top 10 this year even if we didn't pick a single defensive player in this draft. I'm not advocating that, I'm just saying that I would be fine with using the premium picks for guys that make this Offense hum. While we need some depth, we don't really need big uglies like we have in the past. We need weapons, IMO.

                            This year seems to be the Defenses turn to get the top pick, and I can be cool with that. It's not like Colbert is calling me for advice or anything.

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                            • birtikidis
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4628

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              I've been on this board for almost as long as you and you're just now figuring that out?

                              That said, the Offense was mediocre at best last year and has had a blood-letting of starting talent in the off-season. IMO, the D would still be top 10 this year even if we didn't pick a single defensive player in this draft. I'm not advocating that, I'm just saying that I would be fine with using the premium picks for guys that make this Offense hum. While we need some depth, we don't really need big uglies like we have in the past. We need weapons, IMO.

                              This year seems to be the Defenses turn to get the top pick, and I can be cool with that. It's not like Colbert is calling me for advice or anything.
                              Other than Wallace what impact starter have we let walk? Mendenhall was a guy we benched. His only impact is his dance ability, foot in mouth remarks, and fumbling. I don't see any players with any sort of impact, other than wallace, that left. I like taking a playmaking TE. Just not so much in the first. I don't see a huge separation between Eifert and Ertz. On defense I'd say we've had a blood letting. And I'd also say that AGE is catching up to us. Lewis, Jimmy Hate, and snack were all starters. Letting our top two backups at safety walk means we're one injury away from Robert Golden at safety.
                              That's why I'm actually hoping for a Vacarro, Minter, Kelce, McCray (OLB from UF), Lattimore kind of draft.

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                              • grotonsteel
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 2810

                                #30
                                Originally posted by birtikidis
                                Other than Wallace what impact starter have we let walk? Mendenhall was a guy we benched. His only impact is his dance ability, foot in mouth remarks, and fumbling. I don't see any players with any sort of impact, other than wallace, that left. I like taking a playmaking TE. Just not so much in the first. I don't see a huge separation between Eifert and Ertz. On defense I'd say we've had a blood letting. And I'd also say that AGE is catching up to us. Lewis, Jimmy Hate, and snack were all starters. Letting our top two backups at safety walk means we're one injury away from Robert Golden at safety.
                                That's why I'm actually hoping for a Vacarro, Minter, Kelce, McCray (OLB from UF), Lattimore kind of draft.

                                McCray is James harrison clone. I hope Steelers draft him.
                                Steelers Draft 2015
                                Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                                Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                                Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                                Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                                Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                                Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                                Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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