"Harrison hates Steelers now"

[phillyesq]

yes. its all about me and my hate for our defense. really?????

Don't forget how Harrison is a victim of an exploitative system in the NFL and how I abuse old people because I think LeBeau needs to be more willing to change.

For somebody who claims to be dispassionate about the players, you've directed a lot of negative energy towards Harrison...

[Oviedo]

For somebody who claims to be dispassionate about the players, you've directed a lot of negative energy towards Harrison...

I am passionate when I perceive that a player rejects the organization because to me it is all about the organization because that is what has provided the great NFL experience for me since I started watching the NFL in about 1970 at a preseason game my father took me to in Forbes Field. I totally believe in the old fashioned notion that "its about the name on the front of the jersey not the one on the back."

Now I'm sure you will come back with the argument of what about when the organization rejects the player so isn't it all right for the player to reject the organization. Sure it is, but I'll still side with the organization because I'm confident they have the long term view whereas the player has the short term view.

[feltdizz]

I am passionate when I perceive that a player rejects the organization because to me it is all about the organization because that is what has provided the great NFL experience for me since I started watching the NFL in about 1970 at a preseason game my father took me to in Forbes Field. I totally believe in the old fashioned notion that "its about the name on the front of the jersey not the one on the back."

Now I'm sure you will come back with the argument of what about when the organization rejects the player so isn't it all right for the player to reject the organization. Sure it is, but I'll still side with the organization because I'm confident they have the long term view whereas the player has the short term view.

I can respect that...

but I can't respect revisionist history.

[flippy]

I hate Harrison if he isn't a Steeler. I appreciate the memories, but as soon as he's gone, he's Ray Lewis to me. I'll still follow his career and stuff, but that's just cause I'm a glutton for punishment.

[Oviedo]

I hate Harrison if he isn't a Steeler. I appreciate the memories, but as soon as he's gone, he's Ray Lewis to me. I'll still follow his career and stuff, but that's just cause I'm a glutton for punishment.

Ditto, except I could care less about his career if he isn't wearing Black and Gold. Guy could fall into the Black Hole of Calcutta and I wouldn't care. I root for the Steelers not a player beyond what he can do to benefit the Steelers.

[flippy]

Ditto, except I could care less about his career if he isn't wearing Black and Gold. Guy could fall into the Black Hole of Calcutta and I wouldn't care. I root for the Steelers not a player beyond what he can do to benefit the Steelers.

Even in different cloth, if I see James, I'm gonna remember his SuperBowl Pic6. It's the nostalgia that'll make me watch him.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Not me. As long as his success doesn't hurt the Steelers in any way I would wish him well in gratitude for bringing us our 6th Lombardi, and for everything else he did for us. Now, if he's playing us, or for a team we need to lose, then no warm fuzzies at those times. But, I still have (diminishing ) hopes that he'll stay in the B&G).

You guys really feel that way? You really do hate Franco, Joey Porter, Kevin Greene, Woodson and others because they put on another uniform after wearing the B&G?

Related question ... what about Foote, BMac, Gay, Randle-El, etc. ... did you hate them when they left? And did you start loving them again (apologies to Merle Haggard) the day they came back? Hey, Plex is in that boat right now ... where does he stand now that he's back?

[phillyesq]

Not me. As long as his success doesn't hurt the Steelers in any way I would wish him well in gratitude for bringing us our 6th Lombardi, and for everything else he did for us. Now, if he's playing us, or for a team we need to lose, then no warm fuzzies at those times. But, I still have (diminishing ) hopes that he'll stay in the B&G).

You guys really feel that way? You really do hate Franco, Joey Porter, Kevin Greene, Woodson and others because they put on another uniform after wearing the B&G?

Related question ... what about Foote, BMac, Gay, Randle-El, etc. ... did you hate them when they left? And did you start loving them again (apologies to Merle Haggard) the day they came back? Hey, Plex is in that boat right now ... where does he stand now that he's back?

I'm with you. As long as he is not playing against the Steelers, I will absolutely root for James Harrison. He was my favorite player on the team and he had some amazing games, and left me with a lot of great memories. If he's playing against the Steelers, I'd certainly rather he not knock Ben into oblivion, but if he's not playing against the Steelers, I'll absolutely root for him.

[Oviedo]

Not me. As long as his success doesn't hurt the Steelers in any way I would wish him well in gratitude for bringing us our 6th Lombardi, and for everything else he did for us. Now, if he's playing us, or for a team we need to lose, then no warm fuzzies at those times. But, I still have (diminishing ) hopes that he'll stay in the B&G).

You guys really feel that way? You really do hate Franco, Joey Porter, Kevin Greene, Woodson and others because they put on another uniform after wearing the B&G?

Related question ... what about Foote, BMac, Gay, Randle-El, etc. ... did you hate them when they left? And did you start loving them again (apologies to Merle Haggard) the day they came back? Hey, Plex is in that boat right now ... where does he stand now that he's back?

Don't hate them but quit caring about them as NFL players the minute they left. And the ones that came back I started caring about because their efforts mattered again.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Not me. As long as his success doesn't hurt the Steelers in any way I would wish him well in gratitude for bringing us our 6th Lombardi, and for everything else he did for us. Now, if he's playing us, or for a team we need to lose, then no warm fuzzies at those times. But, I still have (diminishing ) hopes that he'll stay in the B&G).

You guys really feel that way? You really do hate Franco, Joey Porter, Kevin Greene, Woodson and others because they put on another uniform after wearing the B&G?

Related question ... what about Foote, BMac, Gay, Randle-El, etc. ... did you hate them when they left? And did you start loving them again (apologies to Merle Haggard) the day they came back? Hey, Plex is in that boat right now ... where does he stand now that he's back?

Very good questions and line of thinking... It's exactly how I felt, but, hadn't taken the time to peice together the thoughts...

[blacknblue80s]

I just can't flip a switch and not give a damn because a player leaves. As long as they aren't playing against us I'm still a fan.

[thor75]

You guys really feel that way? You really do hate Franco, Joey Porter, Kevin Greene, Woodson and others because they put on another uniform after wearing the B&G?

Related question ... what about Foote, BMac, Gay, Randle-El, etc. ... did you hate them when they left? And did you start loving them again (apologies to Merle Haggard) the day they came back? Hey, Plex is in that boat right now ... where does he stand now that he's back?

It depends on the player for me. I really had no strong opinion on Foote, BMac. I don't like Gay and hated ARE. I was disappointed to see Plex go, but still rooted for him and Porter, John Kuhn, Willie Williams, and Mark Bruener. I agree though, if they play against the Steelers I hope they get their a&s beat.

[eniparadoxgma]

I'm in the camp saying that I'll believe it when it I hear it from Silverback himself. Don't see the need to believe 2nd hand hearsay from a friggin Bungle.

[Captain Lemming]

Not me. As long as his success doesn't hurt the Steelers in any way I would wish him well in gratitude for bringing us our 6th Lombardi, and for everything else he did for us. Now, if he's playing us, or for a team we need to lose, then no warm fuzzies at those times. But, I still have (diminishing ) hopes that he'll stay in the B&G).

You guys really feel that way? You really do hate Franco, Joey Porter, Kevin Greene, Woodson and others because they put on another uniform after wearing the B&G?

Related question ... what about Foote, BMac, Gay, Randle-El, etc. ... did you hate them when they left? And did you start loving them again (apologies to Merle Haggard) the day they came back? Hey, Plex is in that boat right now ... where does he stand now that he's back?

I dont hate, but I DO NOT wish them success. Because the greater THEIR success the worse the decision to let him go.

Hey NOBODY was more pro sign Harrison than me.
But now that he is gone I dont want him to suceed elsewhere.
It would only make me more sick that he was let go.

You mention Franco. I was GLAD he struggled in Seattle, because it meant WE MADE THE RIGHT CALL.

I was a fan of Franco THE STEELER, could care less about Franco the Seahawk.

Ditto Harrison, Wallace, Lewis, or any other former Steeler.
I WANT to be wrong if it means the team made the right move

[flippy]

I dont hate, but I DO NOT wish them success. Because the greater THEIR success the worse the decision to let him go.

Hey NOBODY was more pro sign Harrison than me.
But now that he is gone I dont want him to suceed elsewhere.
It would only make me more sick that he was let go.

You mention Franco. I was GLAD he struggled in Seattle, because it meant WE MADE THE RIGHT CALL.

I was a fan of Franco THE STEELER, could care less about Franco the Seahawk.

Ditto Harrison, Wallace, Lewis, or any other former Steeler.
I WANT to be wrong if it means the team made the right move

I'd even go as far as to say Woodson going into the HOF acting like he was a Steeler was a little irritating. Loved him while he was here. But then he left and helped Baltimore win a SuperBowl and meh.

I really liked the guy. But he was gone soooo long, he didn't feel like a Steeler. Guys like Franco or Webby leaving for another season to hang on didnt bother me cause they were so short and they were hanging on too long. But Woodson bugged me that he left with so much left.