Ed: Steelers Blew it on Both Sanders, Harrison

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  • flippy
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    • Dec 2008
    • 17088

    #16
    If I was Sandy, I'd wait for FA next year. Cause whatever they're willing to give him now is related to his health. I'd roll the dice. Sandy playing it this way says he believes in himself. I kinda like that approach.

    But here's also where his agent F's him a bit. To insure against injury, there's an amount he should just take to set himself up for the future and if he's a real money whore and outplays the contract, he can hold out in the future.

    But there's always give to get. And if you get taken care of now, you give a little in return. But these contracts aren't guaranteed so the player's always set up to look like a douche no matter what he does. About the only thing a player and team can do is just not talk about the contract in the media at all.
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    • Eich
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      • Jul 2010
      • 7043

      #17
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      Why not look at it like the Steelers are renting Sanders for a season? They will almost assuredly take a WR at some point in the draft and could end up with a pick that makes us all forget Sanders next season given how deep the WR talent is this year. So Sanders has a breakout season?... buh bye. Got the rook ready to make the next step next season for a whole lot less money than Sanders would command.
      I agree. It's not ideal but that scenario isn't doomsday either - particularly if Sanders actually plays for a new contract unlike Wallace, who was happy to let his previously showcased speed do the talking, playing to not-get-hurt in 2012.

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      • phillyesq
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        • May 2008
        • 7568

        #18
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        Why not look at it like the Steelers are renting Sanders for a season? They will almost assuredly take a WR at some point in the draft and could end up with a pick that makes us all forget Sanders next season given how deep the WR talent is this year. So Sanders has a breakout season?... buh bye. Got the rook ready to make the next step next season for a whole lot less money than Sanders would command.
        The idea that Sanders has a breakout season and leaves the Steelers high and dry isnt predetermined. The Steelers could set themselves up this season for that eventuality.
        Given that it is a deep WR class, wouldn't it be better to have a third round pick this year instead of a late round comp pick in 2015?

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #19
          Originally posted by phillyesq
          Given that it is a deep WR class, wouldn't it be better to have a third round pick this year instead of a late round comp pick in 2015?
          Only if you are not trying to win this year...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • NorthCoast
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            • Sep 2008
            • 26636

            #20
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            Given that it is a deep WR class, wouldn't it be better to have a third round pick this year instead of a late round comp pick in 2015?
            No, it may be better to have the services of both Sanders and a rookie this season, and given the WR depth may get the equivalent of Sanders a round later than he was picked. That was the point of my post.
            I honestly don't believe Sanders will have the luxury of taking the season cautious because he doesnt have the stats to command the big payday without a blockbuster season.
            Last edited by NorthCoast; 04-16-2013, 12:29 PM.

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            • phillyesq
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              • May 2008
              • 7568

              #21
              Originally posted by NorthCoast
              No, it may be better to have the services of both Sanders and a rookie this season, and given the WR depth may get the equivalent of Sanders a round later than he was picked. That was the point of my post.
              I honestly don't believe Sanders will have the luxury of taking the season cautious because he doesnt have the stats to command the big payday without a blockbuster season.
              For this season, yes, I agree that it is better to have Sanders. Sanders is a better weapon than Burress or Cotchery and will likely perform better than a rookie picked this year.

              But, even if the Steelers draft a WR this year, they will need to draft another WR or sign a free agent in 2014, assuming that Sanders leaves. And while he makes the team marginally better this year, I don't see him as a difference maker. If Sanders left, the Steelers could have drafted 2 WRs this year and been set moving forward. Instead of using picks in the first three rounds to attempt to replace and maintain the status quo, they could look to improve.

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              • phillyesq
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                • May 2008
                • 7568

                #22
                Originally posted by Slapstick
                Only if you are not trying to win this year...
                I think you always have to balance the present and the future. Letting Sanders go would give the Steelers 4 picks in the first three rounds both this year and next. That would give an aging team a lot of ammunition to reload...

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                • hawaiiansteel
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                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #23
                  Steelers-hater James Harrison wanted by Bengals

                  By Kevin Patra NFL.com
                  Published: April 16, 2013

                  James Harrison signing with the Cincinnati Bengals seems so assumed that Bengals players sounded perfectly comfortable talking about the linebacker's potential addition on Monday.

                  "One of the things I like about him is he brings that intensity and swagger to the defense," defensive tackle Domata Peko said Monday, via the Cincinnati Enquirer. "Whenever I watch him play he is knocking people's heads off. That's what you want on that team. With Michael Johnson, Carlos Dunlap and Geno Atkins, those are a lot of playmakers out there, and to add someone like Harrison would be awesome for us."

                  Harrison met with the Bengals' brass Monday to work on a contract, NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported. A contract has yet to surface.

                  The 34-year-old former NFL Defensive Player of the Year would slide into the strong-side linebacker spot alongside middle linebacker Rey Maualuga and weak-side linebacker Vontaze Burfict.

                  The Bengals' locker room likes the idea of lining him up against the Pittsburgh Steelers twice next season.

                  "He hates the Steelers now, and that's somebody we need on our side of the football," defensive end Carlos Dunlap said.

                  [URL]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000160180/article/cincinnati-bengals-want-steelers-hater-james-harrison[/URL]

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                  • Steelcage
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 4

                    #24
                    Remember Joey, Harrison was a beast it's time to let the next man up. Let him race Woodly for the team sack title. His run defense will come fast, I would say he's at the same point when James started, only it took him a few years earlier.

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                    • SidSmythe
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4708

                      #25
                      Originally posted by flippy
                      Why didn't the Steelers tender Manny at $2M?
                      seems like no one is signing RFA's these days anyway. so what's the point unless you really are thinking you have a great player who will draw attention. I was surprised by this myself
                      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                      Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                      • supersteeler
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1089

                        #26
                        Mclendon and Redman haven't signed their tenders yet, I hear the deadline is this Friday.
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                        • BURGH86STEEL
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6921

                          #27
                          The Steelers basically blew $500,000 dollars. $500,000 isn't going to make or break the team. I don't see the big deal.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #28
                            Ex-NFL GM Casserly: Max Starks Might Sign Before James Harrison Does

                            April 17, 2013



                            PITTSBURGH (93-7 The Fan) – As the NFLDraft approaches, NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly joins Ron Cook on Sportsradio 93-7 The Fan.

                            The former NFL general manager shares his thoughts on James Harrison’s situation, as talks between Harrison and the Cincinnati Bengals appear to have stalled.

                            “He’s not the same player he was,” Casserly says. “Clearly, he misread the market. I didn’t think there would be any market for him. You gotta look at his age, and where he was last year, he’s only 3-4 outside linebacker so that eliminates half the teams right there. He had a home with the Steelers, and he misread that.

                            “Max Starks may have a better chance of getting signed than James Harrison, because of [the value of] the offensive tackle position versus the outside linebacker position. Even though Harrison is probably a better player at this time, Max might get signed first,” he added.

                            [URL]http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/04/17/ex-nfl-gm-casserly-max-starks-might-sign-before-james-harrison-does/[/URL]

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