I'm warming back up to Te'o at 17

[Shoe]

The only difference, Larry didn't have the media hype because of his personal life. The media made Teo a top 10 pick. His play makes him a mid round pick imho.

Huh? The guy had seven INT's as a senior. He was a freshman starter. As a sophomore, he had the highest tackle total at ND in 27 years. As a junior, he matched that production as a junior and won some national acclaim. As a senior, he topped those seasons with a season for the ages (save for his BCS performance obviously). He was durable (never missed significant time)...

How in the world did the media make the guy into a Top 10 pick? How does his play make him a mid round pick?

[papillon]

Huh? The guy had seven INT's as a senior. He was a freshman starter. As a sophomore, he had the highest tackle total at ND in 27 years. As a junior, he matched that production as a junior and won some national acclaim. As a senior, he topped those seasons with a season for the ages (save for his BCS performance obviously). He was durable (never missed significant time)...

How in the world did the media make the guy into a Top 10 pick? How does his play make him a mid round pick?

For the most part it's one game, unfortunately for Te'o that one game was viewed by millions and then the whole debacle with the girlfriend. If he had played a great game against Alabama and had the girlfriend problem people would overlook the girlfriend thing. However, unfortunately for him he played pretty bad in front of the world. You can recite his stats for the four prior years, but everyone now thinks they were a product of the Notre Dame defense and low caliber opponents.

And, now they're questioning his intelligence and judgment based on the girlfriend debacle, it's too bad for him. He'll still be a relatively high pick and will in all likelihood play well in the NFL. I hope the Steelers stay away from him though for the reasons above. It's difficult to remove the images of the championship game from your short term memory.

Pappy

[flippy]

Huh? The guy had seven INT's as a senior. He was a freshman starter. As a sophomore, he had the highest tackle total at ND in 27 years. As a junior, he matched that production as a junior and won some national acclaim. As a senior, he topped those seasons with a season for the ages (save for his BCS performance obviously). He was durable (never missed significant time)...

How in the world did the media make the guy into a Top 10 pick? How does his play make him a mid round pick?

Being great in college doesn't translate to the NFL level. Teo had a great college career. I just think he's a little short and slow to make a major impact at the next level. I think he'll work hard. He'll play smart. But he's got his physical limitations.

Just an opinion. I'd look at him as a 3rd or 4th rounder and think he'd be great value there. I don't see him as a difference maker at the next level. He'll be a liability in coverage. And I think he needs a great DLine in front of him to keep him clean to make tackles.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

For the most part it's one game, unfortunately for Te'o that one game was viewed by millions and then the whole debacle with the girlfriend. If he had played a great game against Alabama and had the girlfriend problem people would overlook the girlfriend thing. However, unfortunately for him he played pretty bad in front of the world. You can recite his stats for the four prior years, but everyone now thinks they were a product of the Notre Dame defense and low caliber opponents.

And, now they're questioning his intelligence and judgment based on the girlfriend debacle, it's too bad for him. He'll still be a relatively high pick and will in all likelihood play well in the NFL. I hope the Steelers stay away from him though for the reasons above. It's difficult to remove the images of the championship game from your short term memory.

Pappy

what you say here is why, although he's not my top choice, i do not consider him a BAD choice as many in this thread are saying.

BTW, flippy, foote was 225 coming out of college... he was light in the pants and struggled to hold the point of attack... that's the biggest difference.

[flippy]

BTW, flippy, foote was 225 coming out of college... he was light in the pants and struggled to hold the point of attack... that's the biggest difference.

But they're both about the same size now. And I suspect Teo may have a hard time adding any more size without becoming too slow.

[feltdizz]

Huh? The guy had seven INT's as a senior. He was a freshman starter. As a sophomore, he had the highest tackle total at ND in 27 years. As a junior, he matched that production as a junior and won some national acclaim. As a senior, he topped those seasons with a season for the ages (save for his BCS performance obviously). He was durable (never missed significant time)...

How in the world did the media make the guy into a Top 10 pick? How does his play make him a mid round pick?

Did you watch ND these last 4 years? Until last year their O was pretty bad so the D put in overtime... not crazy to see a lot of tackles. Tackles for loss, fumbles, etc..are more important IMO.

The reason some think the media made him top 10 is a lot of people who watch ND could see the DL upgrade was tremendous last year. Take away the NBC exposure and GF story and he is probably a 3rd rounder.

Whether some want to admit it or not the GF story put him front and center. They did a great job getting the luck of the Irish in a few games.

I still can't see how they called the PI call in the PITT game nore how the kicker missed that freaking chip shot. lol

[SteelerOfDeVille]

But they're both about the same size now. And I suspect Teo may have a hard time adding any more size without becoming too slow.

except, you compared their college size and production and that they were both slow coming out... if foote is his size now, he's undoubtedly much slower... just sayin...

FWIW, our great hope (Spence) ran a 4.71 last year at the combine... pretty sure that's about what Manti ran at his pro day...

[Vader]

The problem with the Bama game wasn't that he just had a bad game. Many believe he was exposed. He was physically beaten. He absolutely couldn't handle blockers. And when he was able to read the play he couldn't tackle the RB. Lacy just through him to the ground once. Then his speed was exposed when both RBs just ran around him. He was playing against guys that are going to be in the NFL next year (with the exception of Yeldon) and he was just horrible. Yes, the rest of the team was outclass as well but when it was one on one Te'o looked slow and weak.

I'd never take him in the 1st round. In the later rounds maybe.

[flippy]

except, you compared their college size and production and that they were both slow coming out... if foote is his size now, he's undoubtedly much slower... just sayin...

FWIW, our great hope (Spence) ran a 4.71 last year at the combine... pretty sure that's about what Manti ran at his pro day...

Good point on Foote size now vs then. Maybe Teo becomes big Foote in the NFL and turns out to be the LB I always wanted. I still wouldn't use a premium pick on him.

I didn't realize Spence is that slow. He looks a lot faster on tape. But again, he wasn't a premium pick either.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

So how many of you think Te'O will fall out of the 1st to the 2nd? How many of you would be happy if the Steelers picked him in the 2nd? ILB draft trend plus Te'O media circus....Hmmm.

[feltdizz]

So how many of you think Te'O will fall out of the 1st to the 2nd? How many of you would be happy if the Steelers picked him in the 2nd? ILB draft trend plus Te'O media circus....Hmmm.

I don't want him at all because of the media circus but I wouldn't be nearly as angry if we got him in the second vs the 1st. I would still be angry though..lol

[BradshawsHairdresser]

My invisible girlfriend thinks he'd be a great fit for the Steelers...

[SteelerOfDeVille]

So how many of you think Te'O will fall out of the 1st to the 2nd? How many of you would be happy if the Steelers picked him in the 2nd? ILB draft trend plus Te'O media circus....Hmmm.

If for some reason he fell out of the first, was on the board in the 2nd and the team PASSED on him.... I might become a Ravens fan! (OK, it's not that bad... but, if he went more than 10 picks into the 2nd, I imagine the team would trade up a handful of spots to get him...

[flippy]

If for some reason he fell out of the first, was on the board in the 2nd and the team PASSED on him.... I might become a Ravens fan! (OK, it's not that bad... but, if he went more than 10 picks into the 2nd, I imagine the team would trade up a handful of spots to get him...

I'd consider him in the 3rd or 4th. But I think he'll go in round 2-3.

[hawaiiansteel]

I'd consider him in the 3rd or 4th. But I think he'll go in round 2-3.

Mock Draft Digest: The steady rise of Manti Te'o

By Evan Hilbert | CBSSports.com
April 15, 2013

The Manti Te'o downward spiral is certainly well-known, but it deserves revisiting given recent events. Te'o, once a first-round lock, tumbled after a hoax involving his deceased "girlfriend" was revealed and, later, his uninspiring play against Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game.

Lately, however, Te'o has been a steady climber on draft boards. So much so, in fact, that the majority of pundits have him going in the first round, despite concerns about his speed. Still, four out of the five draft analysts -- NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, ESPN's Todd McShay, SBNation.com's Matthew Fairburn, and CBSSports.com's draft insider Rob Rang -- reviewed this week have Te'o being selected in the first round.

The question now becomes: Who takes Te'o? The Notre Dame linebacker reportedly met last week with both the Dolphins and Giants, but Te'o going to the Vikings at 23 (or 25) seems to be the consensus. Three of the four pundits who have Te'o going in the first 32 picks have him ending up with the Vikings, with McShay putting him 32nd with the Ravens -- despite his colleague's suggestion that there would be "no way" Te'o falls to Baltimore.

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