quick thoughts draft and sanders

[Big Ern McCracken]

We've got more gaps to fill this year as opposed to last... or the last several for that matter. If the draft is deep in a few positions this year...trading down might be worth the risk, simply because of the lack of depth at multiple positions.

[Sugar]

If Ben is lobbying to keep him, he's as good as gone.

[Shoe]

Anybody who is banking on the Steelers hitting on a lot of draft picks and thinking that will be the answer, I think is dreaming. Go back through the drafts and ask yourself how many draft picks usually turn out well in any given draft. Three or Four is a lot. Out of that, the number that will become valuable starting players is lower. That is why I think people who love the idea of getting draft picks for Sanders are deceiving themselves.

Exactly. This may be a surprise to a lot of people, but "everybody" wants to trade down. Especially at that point. Anyone in the 10-32 range will be happy to have a trade partner who would give them multiple premium picks (i.e. 1st-3rd) in return.

Don't count on it happening.

[Chadman]

If Sanders is gone, the Steelers will have 9 draft picks. That should be more than adequate, without having to forgo selecting a Top 20 player in order to generate more picks. 4 picks inside the first 3 rounds- should result in at least 3 of those guys becoming contributors to this team. While there are depth holes, not every position needs to be filled by 2013 rookies. There are other guys on the roster already who should be relied on to step up as well. Guys like Worilds, Cortez Allen, Mike Adams, Cam Heyward.

[thor75]

Exactly. This may be a surprise to a lot of people, but "everybody" wants to trade down. Especially at that point. Anyone in the 10-32 range will be happy to have a trade partner who would give them multiple premium picks (i.e. 1st-3rd) in return.

Don't count on it happening.

Reports out of Atlanta say they are looking to trade up from their #30 pick to get one of the highly touted CBs. Their GM is willing to wheel and deal as evidenced by the Julio Jones trade up. Could be a candidate if they want to go to #17.

[pittpete]

Steve Breaston is 3 years older than Sanders and could be had for half the $$$$$ this year.
He's also played in Haleys system before and has been productive.
Lets also not forget Sanders 3 fumbles last year/2 lost.
Also heard on Sirius yesterday that Sanders was responsible for running some of the wrong routes last year which led to some turnovers as well.

[Jooser]

Reports out of Atlanta say they are looking to trade up from their #30 pick to get one of the highly touted CBs. Their GM is willing to wheel and deal as evidenced by the Julio Jones trade up. Could be a candidate if they want to go to #17.

He could have our 1.17 for Julio Jones.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Is our 1st worth 2 2nd's in the "points" system?

you can always make that happen... might require us to throw in a 4th or 5th, but, should be do-able... just depends on how desperate the team trying to get into the first is...

[flippy]

Reports out of Atlanta say they are looking to trade up from their #30 pick to get one of the highly touted CBs. Their GM is willing to wheel and deal as evidenced by the Julio Jones trade up. Could be a candidate if they want to go to #17.

This is the draft to go down. I don't think the choices at 17 are that much better than 30.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Reports out of Atlanta say they are looking to trade up from their #30 pick to get one of the highly touted CBs. Their GM is willing to wheel and deal as evidenced by the Julio Jones trade up. Could be a candidate if they want to go to #17.

wow, to move from 30 to 17, they'd also owe the Steelers a 2nd and a 4th. Steep price for them if they want it...

Also, I believe there a limit on how many draft picks a team can have in a single draft (i think 10)... But, i think that's only pre-draft - you can come away with more via trades DURING the draft... anybody know for for sure?

To come out with a first, two 2nds and two 3rds (one from NE) and two 4ths could be an incredible selection of talent.

1.17 = 950
1.30+2.30+4.30 => 620+284+46 = 950

[URL]http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php[/URL]

if that limit of 10 exists during draft, it might mean taking a 3rd next year instead of a 4th this year - which isn't a terrible idea, either...

[SteelerOfDeVille]

wow.. that would be f'ing fun to mock... anybody...?

1.30 -
2.17 -
2.30 -
3.17 -
3.29 -
4.17 -
4.30 -
5.17 -
6.17 -
6.38 -
7.17 -

[SteelerOfDeVille]

I'll take a stab at it...
1.30 - Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
2.17 - Johnathan Jenkins, NT, UGa
2.30 - Terrence Williams, WR, Baylor
3.17 - Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
3.29 - Shamarko Thomas, S, Syracuse
4.17 - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marhsal
l4.30 - Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
5.17 - Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
6.17 - Omoregie Uzzi, G, Georgia Tech
6.38 - Earl Wartford, G, James Madison
7.17 - Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook