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  • papillon
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    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #46
    Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
    forget the money.

    what has sanders done to earn an extension?

    I'm not seeing this as a big loss if it goes down.
    It's not a big loss, but the cumulative effect of what has gone on this off season will leave an offense needing to fill the following positions, #1 WR, #3 WR, #1 RB and #1 TE not to mention an offensive line that was often injured last year. Fans hope DeCastro is everything they've heard, Gilbert injured more Steelers than opponents, Starks isn't coming back, colon is gone, Adams showed some signs, bur was injured as well, Foster and Pouncey were constant. The offense didn't need to replace another player, but it certainly looks as if that is the case.

    Not to mention this almost forces them into a WR at 1.17 and certainly by 2.49 a WR has to be taken and then one later in the draft. Brown, Cotchery, Burris, practice squad receivers and rookies is a losing proposition in my book in a league that is pass happy.

    It's going to be a long 2 years (maybe longer) for the black and gold, IMO.

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    • NorthCoast
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      • Sep 2008
      • 26636

      #47
      Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
      I think I'd chose an up and coming young player that proved he can play in the league over a 3rd round draft pick that has a 30% chance of ever becoming a starter. The Pats probably know the success rate of 3rd round draft picks and are choosing to take their chances by attempting to sign Sanders. If the finances are there the Steelers will probably match the Pats offer.

      I agree Burgh. The fail rate on rookie NFL WRs is too high to risk letting Sanders go. The price is modest for his potential. The Steelers need to focus on other priorities in this draft.

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      • Mister Pittsburgh
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 3674

        #48
        The Steelers should start talking to small school and late round projected WR's that could go under after and play up that they should sign with us as we need WR's.
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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #49
          I have mixed feelings about it. I would love the extra 3rd but this team is weak in some many areas that I don't think we can afford to lose Sanders as well.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • steelz09
            Administrator
            • Jan 2008
            • 4675

            #50
            Originally posted by squidkid
            with what money?
            The Steelers FO think it's more important to keep Ike for 9.5 million. Elite Money to an old CB that isn't a playmaker and is on the downside of his career.
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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #51
              Originally posted by papillon
              It's not a big loss, but the cumulative effect of what has gone on this off season will leave an offense needing to fill the following positions, #1 WR, #3 WR, #1 RB and #1 TE not to mention an offensive line that was often injured last year. Fans hope DeCastro is everything they've heard, Gilbert injured more Steelers than opponents, Starks isn't coming back, colon is gone, Adams showed some signs, bur was injured as well, Foster and Pouncey were constant. The offense didn't need to replace another player, but it certainly looks as if that is the case.

              Not to mention this almost forces them into a WR at 1.17 and certainly by 2.49 a WR has to be taken and then one later in the draft. Brown, Cotchery, Burris, practice squad receivers and rookies is a losing proposition in my book in a league that is pass happy.

              It's going to be a long 2 years (maybe longer) for the black and gold, IMO.

              Pappy
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              • Chadman
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                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #52
                Reckon Sanders is gone.

                While it will mean the Steelers likely need to draft a WR in the first 2-3 rounds, the Steelers will still need to find a starter opposite Brown. Cotchery isn't that guy, and Burress is a situational guy at this point.

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                • fordfixer
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                  • May 2008
                  • 10921

                  #53
                  Keep Sanders we know what we have in him.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
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                    • May 2008
                    • 35649

                    #54
                    Originally posted by fordfixer
                    Keep Sanders we know what we have in him.
                    I agree, there is a reason Bellicheat is willing to give up a late 3rd round pick for him.

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                    • Chadman
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      #55
                      That being said, this is now an opportunity to revamp the WR's into Haley-style WR's. And with strong draft depth at WR & safety, the Steelers could sink the 1st round pick into a different 'area of want' like LB or along the lines, then pick up a WR or safety in round 2 and 3.
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                      • DBR96A
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                        • Feb 2012
                        • 469

                        #56
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        I agree, there is a reason Bellicheat is willing to give up a late 3rd round pick for him.
                        Because the Patriots suck at developing their own WRs?
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                        • supersteeler
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1089

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                          forget the money.

                          what has sanders done to earn an extension?

                          I'm not seeing this as a big loss if it goes down.

                          Are you kidding, Wallace is gone Heath isn't expected to play early on and now Sanders. I disagree, it is a loss in that it weakens our offense something that we were supposed to upgrade. If people expect rookies to come in here and make up the difference your mistaken, it takes time to adjust to the NFL and learning the playbook.
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                          • steelblood
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4166

                            #58
                            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                            I think I'd chose an up and coming young player that proved he can play in the league over a 3rd round draft pick that has a 30% chance of ever becoming a starter. The Pats probably know the success rate of 3rd round draft picks and are choosing to take their chances by attempting to sign Sanders. If the finances are there the Steelers will probably match the Pats offer.
                            Sure for this year, but we are talking about one year for Sanders vs four years for a third round pick. Sanders is a good player, but he is not elite and he has an extensive injury history. This is a really close call, imho. I'd probably let him walk.
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                            • Starlifter
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                              • May 2008
                              • 5078

                              #59
                              It's not about a one year deal. the steelers have to decide if they want sanders long term and are willing to lock him up in the next few months. If so, match the deal and work out a 5 year contract. if not, let him go take the pick. we have not been drafting very high the last few years due to our success, yet we were able to find 3 quality WR's through the draft. none of these guys are irreplaceable. if you want them long term, you make the deal. if you don't, you let others make the deal and get some compensation out of it.
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                              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
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                                • May 2008
                                • 3937

                                #60
                                I want Sanders here but I thought long & hard about the situation. The whole outcome will be based on if the Steelers have any intentions of keeping Sanders here past 2013 regardless of his 2013 production. If they have no intentions, they will take the pick. Sign Breaston/Lloyd, sign Bradshaw, and draft a couple WRs & another RB. The "All Cut" team for 2013...KC on the hotseat? Losing Wallace & Sanders will hurt...Never thought it was possible in an offseason...But they may think a "bridge" of Brown, Burress, Cotchery, Breaston/Lloyd, and a couple of rookies can get them by. They may think a Gilreath, Moore, Moye, or Reed may surprise...Because they would certainly surprise the hell out of me.

                                If Sanders has a 70/1,100 6TDs season, They won't invest in him. Even with that type of production, he won't get a big enough contract in the market to get a 3rd round comp. If he puts up a 50/800 3TDs or misses games due to injury...That 3rd round pick could of provided great value....Not to mention everyone in here calling for KC's head.

                                I want to win & think the SAFER way to go is match but long term ramifications may be better with the 3rd. What an offseason.

                                This upcoming draft and the 1 or 2 FA signings that MAY happen over the next couple weeks could make or break the great KC reputation. I mean think about it. Rub that crystal ball and go mid season where the Steelers could be a 5-3 team tied in the AFC North. You can hear the announcer calling KC a genius. Losing 8 potential starters to FA/Cuts and starting the season without Heath Miller....Being right in the thick of things midseason. Plugging in vets, draft choices in waiting, and rookies to continue & be a contender. Unfortunately, I can see another side appear in that crystal ball where the Steelers are 3-5 and the announcer is saying it was inevitable after losing 8 potential starters to FA/Cuts and starting the season without Heath Miller. Has it been smart decisions or just plain luck over the years. You start getting the feeling the luck is gonna run out here real soon.
                                Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 04-11-2013, 09:36 AM.

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