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  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    Dolphins Looking To Trade Up?

    [url]http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/dolphins_looking_to_trade_up_in_the_draft/13312003[/url]

    I'd gladly take those two second round picks off their hands for 1.17!
    @_Hellgrammite
  • steelblood
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4166

    #2
    Depending on where the QBs begin to fall. We could have a team looking to jump others to nab Smith, Barkley, Glennon, or Nassib. I'd say that would be our most likely type of trading partner. Teams at the front of the second round will look to trade up and grab one.
    Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
      [URL]http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/dolphins_looking_to_trade_up_in_the_draft/13312003[/URL]

      I'd gladly take those two second round picks off their hands for 1.17!
      Totally agree.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #4
        Originally posted by steelblood
        Depending on where the QBs begin to fall. We could have a team looking to jump others to nab Smith, Barkley, Glennon, or Nassib. I'd say that would be our most likely type of trading partner. Teams at the front of the second round will look to trade up and grab one.
        btw love your jj Wilcox pick. I got to see Georgia Soutern ball in person this season. Wilcox is a true player. With that said, he is also a party boy...needs to grow up a bit.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • Gus
          Backup
          • Aug 2009
          • 172

          #5
          Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
          [URL]http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/dolphins_looking_to_trade_up_in_the_draft/13312003[/URL]

          I'd gladly take those two second round picks off their hands for 1.17!
          According to the draft value chart, we could get the 2 2nds plus their 4th and we'd still be on the short end. If this were areal discussion with Miami, I'd look for the 2 2nds and push for their 2014 3rd round pick.

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          • Mister Pittsburgh
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 3674

            #6
            Originally posted by Gus
            According to the draft value chart, we could get the 2 2nds plus their 4th and we'd still be on the short end. If this were areal discussion with Miami, I'd look for the 2 2nds and push for their 2014 3rd round pick.
            Yeah, I looked at that a month or so ago, and the value would suggest we would get more than just their 2 second rounders....It may of even been their two seconds and a third was near equal value, but I just couldn't see any scenario they would give us two seconds and a third for pick 17.
            @_Hellgrammite

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            • Gus
              Backup
              • Aug 2009
              • 172

              #7
              Yeah, that's why I was suggesting their 2014 3rd rounder. They would get to retain a value pick for this year. Also, my impression is that the team wanting to move up is aggressively targeting someone and will be the one to typically overpay. We don't need to move. I think the steelers attitude is: we're listening, but you've got to make this attractive because we're okay where we sit.

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              • Mister Pittsburgh
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 3674

                #8
                Originally posted by Gus
                Yeah, that's why I was suggesting their 2014 3rd rounder. They would get to retain a value pick for this year. Also, my impression is that the team wanting to move up is aggressively targeting someone and will be the one to typically overpay. We don't need to move. I think the steelers attitude is: we're listening, but you've got to make this attractive because we're okay where we sit.
                Could be a smart move, especially since we will get some comp picks next year.
                @_Hellgrammite

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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                  Yeah, I looked at that a month or so ago, and the value would suggest we would get more than just their 2 second rounders....It may of even been their two seconds and a third was near equal value, but I just couldn't see any scenario they would give us two seconds and a third for pick 17.
                  I'd start the negotiating trying to get 2 second round picks and a third or fourth, but in reality be ecstatic with the 2 seconds and take that deal if they balked at the 3rd or 4th. Or, try and get a 5th or 6th if they don't want to give up the 3rd and 4th. Two extra second round picks this year could be just what the doctor ordered if as we've been told the draft is robust from 1.15 through the end of the second round. At the end of the day the extra second round picks could be worth giving up a little in the deal.

                  Since Miami has Tannehill right now and Smith and Barkley probably aren't rated any better than Tannehill, if there's a run on quarterbacks early, then Miami may be even more inclined to move up and get a player they really like. I guess it could work the other way as well, the quarterbacks stay on the board and premium players are falling and Miami may want to move up to take one, because they don't like either quarterback well enough to draft him.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    I think the more likely scenario would be Miami using their extra 2nd or extra 3rd in an effort to move up into the top 10 to get a true left tackle since they lost Jake Long and their 2012 2nd round OT Jonathan Martin may be better suited if he remained at RT instead of trying to move over to LT. There are numerous prime LT prospects available in Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher, and Lane Johnson, but there are other tackle-needy teams ahead of them like K.C., Philly, Detroit, Arizona, and San Diego, so there is an infinessimally small chance that Miami gets one of the top LT prospects by staying put. Cleveland has no 2nd round pick since they used it in the supplemental draft to take Gordon last year. Maybe the Browns would be willing to move down from 6 to 12, gaining the 2nd round pick that the Dolphins got from Indy in the Vontae Davis trade, which would move Miami ahead of Arizona (who is in dire need of OL help).
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • phillyesq
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 7568

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      I think the more likely scenario would be Miami using their extra 2nd or extra 3rd in an effort to move up into the top 10 to get a true left tackle since they lost Jake Long and their 2012 2nd round OT Jonathan Martin may be better suited if he remained at RT instead of trying to move over to LT. There are numerous prime LT prospects available in Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher, and Lane Johnson, but there are other tackle-needy teams ahead of them like K.C., Philly, Detroit, Arizona, and San Diego, so there is an infinessimally small chance that Miami gets one of the top LT prospects by staying put. Cleveland has no 2nd round pick since they used it in the supplemental draft to take Gordon last year. Maybe the Browns would be willing to move down from 6 to 12, gaining the 2nd round pick that the Dolphins got from Indy in the Vontae Davis trade, which would move Miami ahead of Arizona (who is in dire need of OL help).
                      Plausible and well thought out - that makes a lot of sense.

                      I may be in the minority, but I would rather not see the Steelers trade back. Picking within the top 20, they have a much better chance of getting an impact player than they do in the second round. I would prefer to come away with an impact guy. If you could pull a Casey Hampton type draft day trade - move down 3 spots, grab the guy you want, and add an extra pick, that makes sense, but the Steelers need more top level talent than what they have now.

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                      • Mister Pittsburgh
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3674

                        #12
                        All I am sure of is I would gladly give up that meaningless Cleveland win to be picking 6 spots higher.
                        @_Hellgrammite

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                        • thor75
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1038

                          #13
                          I wonder if Minnesota would be looking to trade up from their second 1st rd pick at 25. If they gave us the 25th pick, their 3rd rd pick (83rd) and their 2nd 4th round pick (120th) the points would add up. They could be looking for a WR and Pass rusher. Might be an option to get better value at what we may target.
                          1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
                          2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
                          3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
                          4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
                          5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
                          5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
                          6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
                          6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
                          7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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                          • Mister Pittsburgh
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3674

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thor75
                            I wonder if Minnesota would be looking to trade up from their second 1st rd pick at 25. If they gave us the 25th pick, their 3rd rd pick (83rd) and their 2nd 4th round pick (120th) the points would add up. They could be looking for a WR and Pass rusher. Might be an option to get better value at what we may target.

                            that would also be a nice maneuver for us if we could make that work. good call thor.
                            @_Hellgrammite

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              Originally posted by thor75
                              I wonder if Minnesota would be looking to trade up from their second 1st rd pick at 25. If they gave us the 25th pick, their 3rd rd pick (83rd) and their 2nd 4th round pick (120th) the points would add up. They could be looking for a WR and Pass rusher. Might be an option to get better value at what we may target.
                              While I am not on the odd Eifert-at-17 bandwagon, if we made a move like this, then I could see picking someone like Eifert with a later 1st round pick at 25, with extra 3rd and 4th round picks in our pocket.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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