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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27532

    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
    please forgive me for not being that impressed by Eifert.

    I only saw him play in 2 games this year, versus the Pitt Panthers he had 6 catches for 62 yards and 0 TDs and against Alabama Eifert caught 6 passes for 61 yards with 0 TDs.
    I watched ND a ton and he had some nice catches where he high pointed the ball but on here he has turned into a legend.

    I'm pretty sure most people who speak highly of him haven't watched him that much. The kid is good but he isn't THAT good that he deserves 10 threads. I guess people are trying the Decastro method of constantly speaking him up in hopes of it coming true. Truth is... there are other TE's in this draft who can do the same thing in round 2 and 3.

    It's funny seeing Kiper put Eifert at 17 in his latest draft mock. I watched the NFLN draft special last night and Kiper had Eifert and Ertz available in the 20's.

    They also brought up a guy from San Diego State... Gavin Escobar
    [URL]http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/gavin-escobar?id=2540211[/URL]



    I bet the FO isn't even thinking about a TE with Paulson and Spaeth on the roster. However, if we did draft a TE I would prefer drafting one in the second or 3rd vs 1st round.
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    • supersteeler
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2012
      • 1089

      Originally posted by feltdizz
      I watched ND a ton and he had some nice catches where he high pointed the ball but on here he has turned into a legend.

      I'm pretty sure most people who speak highly of him haven't watched him that much. The kid is good but he isn't THAT good that he deserves 10 threads. I guess people are trying the Decastro method of constantly speaking him up in hopes of it coming true. Truth is... there are other TE's in this draft who can do the same thing in round 2 and 3.

      It's funny seeing Kiper put Eifert at 17 in his latest draft mock. I watched the NFLN draft special last night and Kiper had Eifert and Ertz available in the 20's.

      They also brought up a guy from San Diego State... Gavin Escobar
      [URL]http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/gavin-escobar?id=2540211[/URL]



      I bet the FO isn't even thinking about a TE with Paulson and Spaeth on the roster. However, if we did draft a TE I would prefer drafting one in the second or 3rd vs 1st round.
      There are pro's and cons with any draft prospect, ones opinion either way doesn't make a draft pick a sure thing no matter what position. I look at Tyler as a safe pick maybe not the popular pick but one who can help us immediately and be a good player for us in the future as well.
      We could pick any player or postion and have different opinions as we seen on the posts here with other players besides Tyler Eifert.
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      • thor75
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2012
        • 1038

        I see this draft for us having to target a skill position in the first. IMO they should look at CB, WR, or TE. Unless a stud like Jonathan Cooper from UNC falls that is. I see Jarvis Jones as a specialist who gets swallowed up during run plays and who is reported to hold weight room training in low regard. Everyone blasts Woodley due to his lack of being in shape. True, Jones and Woodley are two different body types and maybe the weight room issues are blown out of proportion idk. I didn't like Jones before his workouts so that has no bearing for me. So this is why I'm leaving him out of the mix.
        I think one of the top CBs or TEs could be drafted if we trade down. I didn't think Eifert would get past the NY Giants before, but I see they acquired Myers who had 79 catches last year for Oakland. The rest of the teams after that appear to be pretty solid at TE. If the FO wanted to take the chance they could probably look to trade down to the mid 20s maybe even as low as 27 and still get Eifert and additional picks. I think the comparisons to Miller are fairly accurate - hard worker, great teammate, good hands. A good pick for the future as well.

        I like Trufant at CB but every team can use good corners. Trading back would be more of a risk IF they are targeting him. The rest of the corners may be best valued in the early second. Milliner and Rhoades will be gone imo by 17. Allen is unproven as a starter and there's no one of starter quality behind him. They haven't targeted anyone in FA besides Gay who is best suited as nickel. A good pick for the future with Allen and possibly Trufant at CBs when Taylor is done.

        WR seems pretty deep. If they're absolutely in love with someone at 17 they pull the trigger. But you never know, WR is so tricky sometimes they pan out and sometimes they don't. Steeler fans know this all too well. Im on the fence with WR. Seems like you can get a solid pick in any round nowadays. They do need a true #1 so the first 2 rounds would seem like the best bet.
        1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
        2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
        3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
        4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
        5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
        5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
        6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
        6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
        7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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        • Sugar
          Hall of Famer
          • Oct 2008
          • 3700

          Originally posted by feltdizz
          I bet the FO isn't even thinking about a TE with Paulson and Spaeth on the roster.
          Really?? Paulson and Spaeth?? That line made me choke a little on my smoothie.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            Originally posted by supersteeler
            There are pro's and cons with any draft prospect, ones opinion either way doesn't make a draft pick a sure thing no matter what position. I look at Tyler as a safe pick maybe not the popular pick but one who can help us immediately and be a good player for us in the future as well.
            We could pick any player or postion and have different opinions as we seen on the posts here with other players besides Tyler Eifert.
            I think there are 2 or 3 TE's in this draft who are very close to Eifert in terms of talent. I would prefer picking a "safe" stud in round 1 and then getting a TE in a later round.

            Eifert has turned into Gronk over night... I think it's fools gold.
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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              Originally posted by Sugar
              Really?? Paulson and Spaeth?? That line made me choke a little on my smoothie.
              yes.. REALLY. They also have faith in guys named Gilbert and Adams on the OL

              Life as a Steeler fan is much healthier when you deal with reality.
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              • Sugar
                Hall of Famer
                • Oct 2008
                • 3700

                Originally posted by feltdizz
                yes.. REALLY. They also have faith in guys named Gilbert and Adams on the OL

                Life as a Steeler fan is much healthier when you deal with reality.
                You mean the Gilbert and Adams that are probably better at their positions than Spaeth and Paulson? Yes, reality is a great thing.

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                • steelz09
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  I think there are 2 or 3 TE's in this draft who are very close to Eifert in terms of talent. I would prefer picking a "safe" stud in round 1 and then getting a TE in a later round.

                  Eifert has turned into Gronk over night... I think it's fools gold.
                  Add in the fact that ND (in general) has been over the past several years one of the most overhyped college football programs in the country.
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • supersteeler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1089

                    When scouts evaluate prospects the college they play for isn't the criteria on top of the list, rather the production of the player and where he fits in with the team. When the Rams drafted the bus, they drafted him for his talent and we seen how that worked out, glad we were able make the trade with them aquiring Jerome even if Notre Dame is overhyped.

                    As I stated there are other prospects the Steelers may have on their short list in the early rounds, Tyler might not be on that list at all, but If we do draft him all the anti-Eifert people will fall in love with him and be glad.
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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27532

                      Originally posted by Sugar
                      You mean the Gilbert and Adams that are probably better at their positions than Spaeth and Paulson? Yes, reality is a great thing.
                      Gilbert sucks IMO... and Adams is average but I have faith he will get better.

                      I noticed you used "probably" lol. Yes, reality IS a great thing.
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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        Originally posted by supersteeler
                        When scouts evaluate prospects the college they play for isn't the criteria on top of the list, rather the production of the player and where he fits in with the team. When the Rams drafted the bus, they drafted him for his talent and we seen how that worked out, glad we were able make the trade with them aquiring Jerome even if Notre Dame is overhyped.

                        As I stated there are other prospects the Steelers may have on their short list in the early rounds, Tyler might not be on that list at all, but If we do draft him all the anti-Eifert people will fall in love with him and be glad.
                        I don't think anyone is anti-Eifert to the point they will be disappointed if we draft him. Like I said earlier.. I think the most disappointment will come from Eifert fans who have unrealistic expectations.

                        As far as ND is concerned... yes, the name means something. You get to see them every week on NBC, the names are said over and over and as we have recently seen.. most of the draft picks from ND are over drafted and don't live up to the hype. Clausen, Quinn.. and just about every WR the last 4 years (hell, even I thought a few would be better NFL prospects) end up being average.

                        ND players look really good when you put on highlights.. but then you realize most of the highlights are against Navy, BYU, Michigan State and Michigan... and all these schools have been mediocre for the last few years.
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                        • Mister Pittsburgh
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3674

                          Originally posted by Sugar
                          You mean the Gilbert and Adams that are probably better at their positions than Spaeth and Paulson? Yes, reality is a great thing.

                          Spaeth was actually ranked the best pass blocking TE in the NFL last year....Gilbert and Adams were not ranked best at anything in the NFL last year....or maybe Gilbert was ranked 'best and destroying his teammates knee and ankle ligaments by getting blown up and falling on them....
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                          • Sugar
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3700

                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Gilbert sucks IMO... and Adams is average but I have faith he will get better.

                            I noticed you used "probably" lol. Yes, reality IS a great thing.
                            Well, you can see what I think of Paulson and Spaeth...

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                            • supersteeler
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1089

                              The Steelers scored 27 TD's last season, 16 of those were scored by Wallace and Miller leaving 11 TD's scored by the rest of the team. Anyway you slice it that production has to be made up somewhere. If we had problems scoring enough points with Wallace and Miller here what do you expect it's going to be without them?

                              Miller will be back but when, and will he have the same production he had last season recovering from his injury? I don't think anyone can answer that with certainty, even when he recovers it takes time to get back in game shape. We seen that happen with Harrison and Troy, it took them time to get back to form.

                              The fact is this offense needs help, drafting Eifert won't be a cure all but IMO he could help our offense. No matter who we draft, if the Steelers don't fix their inability to put enough points on the board it's going to be a long season and most likely out of the playoffs for a second year in a row.
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