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  • supersteeler
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2012
    • 1089

    Jason Worlids next man up

    [url]http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/worilds-next-in-steelers-linebacker-succession-679908/[/url]

    If he improves his run support he could turn out to be better than expected, I'm not worried about the sacks so much because that looks to be the better part of his game.
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  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10281

    #2
    He has deficiencies in his game, but that's what young players do, right? They work to improve their game every year.
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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      He has deficiencies in his game, but that's what young players do, right? They work to improve their game every year.
      It took Harrison like 6-7 years, but everyone wants to forget that and expect immediate Pro Bowl status out of young player or they can't play. Get them on the field and they will either get better or we will know they can't and go to next man up.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10281

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        It took Harrison like 6-7 years, but everyone wants to forget that and expect immediate Pro Bowl status out of young player or they can't play. Get them on the field and they will either get better or we will know they can't and go to next man up.
        I agree. Personally, I have yet to see from Worilds the ability to take over at ROLB in this D. However, we are constantly talking about how rookies can't crack Lebeau's complex D. They have to sit in the wings and develop. Troy and Timmons were both first rounders and looked lost early. Here, we have an experienced backup who sat behind PBers, so no reason to expect him to leapfrog them in the lineup. Time to see what he can do.
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        • Vader
          Backup
          • Dec 2012
          • 289

          #5
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          It took Harrison like 6-7 years, but everyone wants to forget that and expect immediate Pro Bowl status out of young player or they can't play. Get them on the field and they will either get better or we will know they can't and go to next man up.
          Harrison was a UFA while Worilds was a 2nd round pick (57th overall). So would you be ok with re-signing Worilds and giving him 4 more years to develop? BTW Worilds isn't a freakn' rookie. He's been in the system for 3 years.

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          • supersteeler
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2012
            • 1089

            #6
            Beside our LB position where is the next man up for Hood? I'm hoping the light comes on this year for him and Heyward like it did last year for Keenan Lewis.
            To this point Keisel is our best DL player and with his age factor it might be wise for the Steelers to select a DL man somewhere in the draft, for his eventual replacement. In fairness to Heyward he hasn't seen the field as much as Hood, maybe it's time they give him more snaps by alternating with the beard.
            Hood IMO is just average up to now, we need a playmaker on that D-line in combination of a healthy and ready Woodley as seen our front seven having issues getting pressure on the QB. When Aaron Smith played he was a difference maker, since he left that line wasn't the same and neither were our LBer's so even one playmaker could make a difference.

            Getting back to Jason, this is his opportuntity especially in a contract year, starting out of the gate with a good performance may give him the confidence to hold down that position without too much dropoff. Being average isn't good enough, we need above average play from our front seven or we will continue to look for players to get the job done.
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            • Rara
              Pro Bowler
              • Mar 2013
              • 1305

              #7
              Then he should be ready to go.
              2022 NFL Mock Draft
              -------------------------------------------
              1. Malik Willis, QB; Liberty
              2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
              3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
              7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Originally posted by Vader
                Harrison was a UFA while Worilds was a 2nd round pick (57th overall). So would you be ok with re-signing Worilds and giving him 4 more years to develop? BTW Worilds isn't a freakn' rookie. He's been in the system for 3 years.

                Once they make the 53 man roster it doesn't matter how they got there. There aren't different rules on the field for draftees versus UDFAs. They all have to perform the same way.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #9
                  Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                  I agree. Personally, I have yet to see from Worilds the ability to take over at ROLB in this D. However, we are constantly talking about how rookies can't crack Lebeau's complex D. They have to sit in the wings and develop. Troy and Timmons were both first rounders and looked lost early. Here, we have an experienced backup who sat behind PBers, so no reason to expect him to leapfrog them in the lineup. Time to see what he can do.
                  I'll repeat with what I always say. The only people we are confusing with the "complexity" of our defense is ourseleves. It doesn't need to be so complex to the point we waste two years of a players career learning it. Rookies and second year defensive players make impacts across the league but not here. No reason for that.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #10
                    As I've said before, no one should expect Jason to be a James Harrison. Harrison is one of the greatest OLB's to ever play. That said, if the level of dropoff is minimal (perhaps back to Joey Porter levels), I would be ecstatic! He's been in the system a few years now and can reasonably expect that he is the next man up and not sitting behind a pro-bowler. I'm confident/hopeful that he'll be ready to go.

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                    • BURGH86STEEL
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6921

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      I'll repeat with what I always say. The only people we are confusing with the "complexity" of our defense is ourseleves. It doesn't need to be so complex to the point we waste two years of a players career learning it. Rookies and second year defensive players make impacts across the league but not here. No reason for that.
                      Not sure where you came up with the idea that two years of players careers are wasted???? They get young defensive players on the field. Young players don't become full time starters until they are ready. There is a reason for that. The fact behind the Steelers reasoning is that they typically rank among the best defenses in the league doing things their way. How can you disagree with that fact?

                      Defensive Points vs rank (Since Lebeau returned)
                      2004 1st
                      2005 3rd
                      2006 11th
                      2007 2nd
                      2008 1st
                      2009 12th
                      2010 1st
                      2011 1st
                      2012 6th

                      And you believe it can get much better then that? Good luck.

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                      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3937

                        #12
                        Nobody expected James Harrison to be Joey Porter.

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                        • BradshawsHairdresser
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 7056

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Nobody expected James Harrison to be Joey Porter.
                          James Harrison did.

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                            Not sure where you came up with the idea that two years of players careers are wasted???? They get young defensive players on the field. Young players don't become full time starters until they are ready. There is a reason for that. The fact behind the Steelers reasoning is that they typically rank among the best defenses in the league doing things their way. How can you disagree with that fact?

                            Defensive Points vs rank (Since Lebeau returned)
                            2004 1st
                            2005 3rd
                            2006 11th
                            2007 2nd
                            2008 1st
                            2009 12th
                            2010 1st
                            2011 1st
                            2012 6th

                            And you believe it can get much better then that? Good luck.
                            This.

                            You can disagree with the philosophy, but you love the results...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • Mister Pittsburgh
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3674

                              #15
                              Worilds will surprise and open eyes.
                              @_Hellgrammite

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