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Getting Harrison back on an incentive laden contract with his attitude and effort would be a good thing. He'd put every ounce of energy that he has into earning the incentives and bonuses from the Steelers. They'd get one hungry OLB and, hopefully, one still capable of playing at a high level in the NFL. They could get those final two years out of him with incentive laden contracts rather than salary and signing bonuses.
How do incentives work against the cap?
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1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
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And regarding incentives. This:
[URL]http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx[/URL]
Says this:
How does the NFL Salary Cap treat cash incentives?
Answer: All incentives are included in team salary if they are "likely to be earned" (LTBE). LTBE incentives are performance levels that the player or team has reached in the previous year.
For example, if a quarterback threw twenty touchdowns last year and his incentive clause for this year is set at fifteen touchdowns, then this incentive is “likely to be earned.” Also, incentives that are in the sole control of the player, like non-guaranteed reporting bonuses and off-season workout and weight bonuses, are considered LTBE.
An impartial arbitrator will hear disputes between the owners and the players concerning what should be considered LTBE (especially for rookies or veterans who did not play in the prior year). Conversely, if a player did not reach the performance incentive in the previous year, the incentive is deemed "not likely to be earned" (NLTBE) and is not included in team salary.
To determine whether a clause is LTBE or NLTBE for Salary Cap purposes (i.e., not whether the player actually earned the incentive), it is necessary to look at the performance of the team in the prior season, not the current season.
For example, assume Player X receives an incentive bonus if he participates in 50% of the team’s offensive plays this season. Assume further that last season the team had 1,000 offensive plays. Therefore, as soon as Player X plays in 500 plays in the current season (or 50% of last year’s 1,000 plays), the incentive will be considered earned for Salary Cap purposes.
The same incentive is considered "not earned" if the same player in the current year only participated in one of the team’s first 502 offensive plays. In this situation, it would be impossible for the player to achieve the 50% incentive based on last year’s performance of 1,000 plays. It is important to remember that looking to last year’s performance level is only for Salary Cap purposes and will not affect the player's right to receive a bonus for his performance in the current year.
So cash incentives work almost like signing bonuses, right?
Answer: The short answer to this question is that incentives are considered signing bonuses; however, for cap purposes they are not handled exactly the same way as "signing" bonuses.
While we're on the topic, let's talk a bit more about signing bonuses.
Also included in the “bonus” are guaranteed reporting bonuses and guaranteed workout bonuses. Roster or reporting bonuses earned or paid before preseason training camp are also considered bonuses. Guaranteed salary advances or advances that do not have to be repaid are treated as signing bonuses. Money guaranteed or paid for option years, contract extensions, contract modifications, individually negotiated rights of first refusal, and option buyouts are considered signing bonuses. Reporting bonuses are treated as signing bonuses if the contract is signed after the start of training camp. Roster bonuses are also considered signing bonuses if the contract was signed after the last preseason game. Finally, individually negotiated relocation bonuses are treated as a signing bonus.
The non-guaranteed amount of any salary advance, off-season workout bonus, off-season roster bonus, or off-season reporting bonus is included in the team’s salary in the year it was earned. These bonuses cannot be prorated. “Guaranteed” refers to those bonuses that are fully guaranteed–regardless of skill, injury or termination of the contract.
Contracts signed, renegotiated, or extended in the final capped year are governed by a somewhat special set of rules if the signing bonus is to be paid to the player in the final capped season. In this situation, a salary advance that the player is not obligated to repay is considered a signing bonus. Any off-season workout bonus that calls for a player to participate in less than thirty-two days of the team’s program is also considered a signing bonus. Finally, all off-season reporting and roster bonuses are considered signing bonuses.Comment
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With regards to the Harrison vs. Goodell thing, I thought he has done a lot better trying to avoid the head to head hits. I think he realizes he can't win that one. IIRC, I don't think he had any fines last year. As for his comments to the press, I don't know if that is hurting his stock. Teams sign players who have done worse (Stallworth, Plax, Vick, etc).
If the Steelers can bring him back next year after all the teams passing on him, maybe we get the hungry beast wanting to prove himself all over again.1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
7. Quincy Enunwa WR NebraskaComment
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James doesn't hit helmet to helmet.Comment
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I doubt the Steelers are considering Harrison at this time. Unless the Steelers have flat out told Harrisons agent, " this is what we have to offer and do not contact us unless James is ready to agree. " Other than that, I don't see James or his pride coming back to the team.Comment
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Because it would be obvious that the only reason he was in Pittsburgh was because no one else in the NFL wanted him. He'd have to eat it in front of all the guys that used to look up to him and at this stage of his career, after all he's done, would be horribly embarrassing.
The Canada thing was just a dig, because for a former DPOY that would be pretty embarrassing too.Comment
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