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  • Coolie Man
    Backup
    • Mar 2013
    • 351

    Bye bye k. Lewis

    Adam scheduler reporting Leeis Is gonna sign with NO today. William Gay our Nickle back for sure now. We are going backwards. Boo to the FO.
  • Siggy00
    Backup
    • Mar 2013
    • 452

    #2
    So much for the Saints being cap strapped.

    Can't fault Lewis for going home though.

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      The FO was getting cheered when they spent like drunken sailors to keep the defense together to the detriment of other positions. It bit us because guys like Harrison and Troy and Ike aren't worth that money anymore. Restructuring always comes back to haunt a team and we have done it as much as anyone.

      Well at least we will get a real chance to talk about drafting in the Top 10-12 for 2014. Got to find a positive somewhere.
      Last edited by Oviedo; 03-14-2013, 02:49 PM.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • Steelhere10
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3849

        #4
        I'm not as sold on Lewis as most, it took him 3 years to start and had two decent seasons. Wallace will hurt more...
        [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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        • Siggy00
          Backup
          • Mar 2013
          • 452

          #5
          I'm sick of wasting rookie contracts on defensive players who sit for every year but one and then play one good season and leave.

          Either LeBeau can start playing rookies faster, or he can go away and get someone in here who will.

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          • Coolie Man
            Backup
            • Mar 2013
            • 351

            #6
            What happens when Ike goes in a year or 2? Whose gonna play opposite Allen.

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Originally posted by Siggy00
              I'm sick of wasting rookie contracts on defensive players who sit for every year but one and then play one good season and leave.

              Either LeBeau can start playing rookies faster, or he can go away and get someone in here who will.
              Been saying it for three years. You're wasting you finger strength typing it. LeBeau has all the answers and isn't to be questioned.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • phillyesq
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 7568

                #8
                This is a step backward, and seemingly a needless step backward. With the glut of corners available, the salaries these guys are getting are not huge, and there would have been room for Keenan Lewis or any of the others that are available under the cap.

                What is most disappointing is that after years of corner being an area of need, it was finally turned into an area of strength. Ike, Keenan and Cortez would have been a great top 3 this year, with Lewis and Allen leading the secondary in the future.

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                • phillyesq
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 7568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Siggy00
                  I'm sick of wasting rookie contracts on defensive players who sit for every year but one and then play one good season and leave.

                  Either LeBeau can start playing rookies faster, or he can go away and get someone in here who will.
                  Don't re-write history here, Crash. Lewis was immature and not very good early on, which is why he didn't play. Don't you remember his temper tantrum against the Broncos?

                  Cortez Allen played early because he showed he was ready. It took Lewis longer to get on the field because he developed more slowly. That is on him, not on DL or anybody else.

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                  • phillyesq
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 7568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Been saying it for three years. You're wasting you finger strength typing it. LeBeau has all the answers and isn't to be questioned.
                    You've actually been saying it thoughout an era in which the Steelers went to 3 SBs, winning 2.

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                    • Eddie Spaghetti
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 4123

                      #11
                      save your breath philly.

                      you won't convince either one of these guys that they're wrong.

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                      • Siggy00
                        Backup
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 452

                        #12
                        Don't re-write history here, Crash. Lewis was immature and not very good early on, which is why he didn't play. Don't you remember his temper tantrum against the Broncos?
                        It's not just Lewis. It's EVERYONE. Jason Worilds when healthy only plays when Woodley or James can't.

                        Ziggy Hood played well for Aaron Smith in 2010, but what happened when 2011 started? Hood sat on his ass and Smith gobbled up the snaps.

                        When Nick Eason is a rush specialist and Worilds isn't? That's a problem.

                        There's no reason for these guys to sit and rot. NONE.

                        Rookies didn't for Capers, rookie's didn't for Tim Lewis.

                        The complexity of the "scheme" is a cop out. LeBeau just hates playing young players.

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                        • deljzc
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 26

                          #13
                          I would have done a lot to try to get Sean Smith at the money he got in Kansas City (3-years, $18 million with $11 million guaranteed). That was a great bargain in my opinion as I think he a top-notch, physical corner who has length, can make plays and tackle. I consider Smith better than Ike Taylor right now but since we restructured Taylor last year, we can't really swap contracts when we see a bargain.

                          Frustrating we can't even fit a $4 million cap charge into out books when an opportunity presents itself to really bolster our secondary like this. This is a buyers market in the CB group and we're too cap strapped to take advantage. Instead, we overpay William Gay and Larry Foote.

                          I would have somehow tried to fit Dan Conner + Sean Smith into our cap than Larry Foote + William Gay + David Johnson. The money's not all that different.

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                          • Eddie Spaghetti
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4123

                            #14
                            on the plus side, maybe this frees up a little room for victor butler. Maybe the FO is more comfortable with the secondary depth than the LB depth. Just have to wait and see. I think ike is good for 2 more seasons and I think its clear now the FO favors cortez allen to lewis. I bet he gets an extension after this year. Now if he blows up and we can't afford/lose him then we have a real problem. I thjnk he is restricted next year, but it would be wise to lock him up sooner rather than later if he is the future #1 as we believe.

                            I don't like losing emerging players in their mid 20s either, but you have to hope that there is a plan in place.

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                            • phillyesq
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 7568

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Siggy00
                              It's not just Lewis. It's EVERYONE. Jason Worilds when healthy only plays when Woodley or James can't.

                              Ziggy Hood played well for Aaron Smith in 2010, but what happened when 2011 started? Hood sat on his ass and Smith gobbled up the snaps.

                              When Nick Eason is a rush specialist and Worilds isn't? That's a problem.

                              There's no reason for these guys to sit and rot. NONE.

                              Rookies didn't for Capers, rookie's didn't for Tim Lewis.

                              The complexity of the "scheme" is a cop out. LeBeau just hates playing young players.
                              You managed to address just about every position on the D put the position at issue here - corner. Why do you think the Steelers drafted Brown and Allen? They thought that Lewis was a bust. His slow development was on him, not on the scheme, coaching staff, etc.

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