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  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3937

    #46
    I posted both their stats if you read. That was done because SOD was saying Lattimore was a better runner and I was showing college production. Since we ONLY have Lattimore's college resume...There ya go. He has ZERO NFL resume. I know what his injuries were. You can not disregard any knee injuries regardless of where you think he was after it. They don't get better with time or wear & tear. Odds are Lattimore is damaged goods. If it wasn't true, Lattimore would be a 1st rounder.
    Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 03-13-2013, 02:01 PM.

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    • steelz09
      Administrator
      • Jan 2008
      • 4675

      #47
      Originally posted by Shawn
      Beanie Wells

      Positives:
      Extraordinary combination of size and natural running ability. Downhill runner who attacks the line of scrimmage when running inside. Shows the patience to pick and slide laterally. Good burst to and through the hole. Despite his height, generally runs with good pad level, giving defenders little to target other than his knees and shoulder pads. Rare size and leg drive to move the pile. Rare vision and lateral quickness for a back of his size. Anticipates the cutback lanes before they appear and capitalizes on them. Surprising acceleration to break through the first wave of the defense and get to the second level. Brutal stiff-arm when in the open field to bat away defenders attempting to drag him down. Despite his size, shows good breakaway speed. Final nine touchdowns against BCS opponents traveled an average of 32 yards. Good size and strength as a pass blocker. Despite his struggles with durability, some close to the program characterize him as being a tough player willing to play through pain. Negatives: Primary concern - and the only one that will keep him from being a top 10 pick - is Wells' struggles with durability. Fought nagging injuries throughout much of his career at Ohio State and some have questioned whether he knows the difference between pain and injury. Sat out three full games and parts of several others (including the 2009 Fiesta Bowl -- his final game in a Buckeye uniform) with foot, hamstring and head (concussion) injuries. May lack natural hands for the reception. Has only caught 15 passes for 84 career yards and too often double-clutches. Inconsistent effort as a blocker

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      lol...big boy league. The Big Ten talent is geared for stopping the run...not a 4 wide spread option. It's tougher to run in the Big Ten then it is in the SEC.

      And as long as we are comparing stats here is Beanie's

      585 carries for 3382 yards (5.78 avg) and 30 touchdowns, not too bad in a run first conference.
      Comparing the Big Ten and the SEC is embarrassing.
      Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #48
        Beanie Wells

        585 carries for 3382 yards (5.78 avg) and 30 touchdowns, not too bad in a run first conference.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #49
          Mark Ingram Freshman Stats:

          [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2008.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool"]2008[/URL]* [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/2008.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool"]Alabama[/URL] [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/2008.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool"]SEC[/URL] FR RB 143 728 5.1 12 7 54 7.7 0 150 782 5.2 12
          Career [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=S hareTool"]Alabama[/URL] 572 3261 5.7 42 60 670 11.2 4 632 3931 6.2 46
          Trent Richardson Freshman Stats

          [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2009.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool"]2009[/URL]* [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/2009.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool"]Alabama[/URL] [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/2009.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool"]SEC[/URL] FR RB 145 751 5.2 8 16 126 7.9 0 161 877 5.4 8
          Career [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=S hareTool"]Alabama[/URL] 540 3130 5.8 35 68 730 10.7 7 608 3860 6.3 42
          Marcus Lattimore Freshman Stats:
          [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2010.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Sha re&utm_campaign=ShareTool"]2010[/URL]* [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/south-carolina/2010.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Sha re&utm_campaign=ShareTool"]South Carolina[/URL] [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/2010.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_c ampaign=ShareTool&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Sha re&utm_campaign=ShareTool"]SEC[/URL] FR RB 249 1197 4.8 17 29 412 14.2 2 278 1609 5.8 19
          Career [URL="http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/south-carolina/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=S hareTool&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_ca mpaign=ShareTool"]South Carolina[/URL] 555 2677 4.8 38 74 767 10.4 3 629 3444 5.5 41

          Boy, I would hate to have a game named Lattimore as our back. lol

          You know what type of talented freak you must be to come in as a true freshman against SEC talent and perform like that? You know why talent like that ends up in the SEC? Because they want to play in the best conference in all of college football against the best talent in college football. They don't want to play for some school in the Big Ten and be a laughing stock.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #50
            Originally posted by steelz09
            Comparing the Big Ten and the SEC is embarrassing.
            You are funny and you are showing your lack of insight. The Big Ten is the inferior conference. But, it's not a spread option, pass first conference. It's a run first conference, with teams built to stop the run. If you can run in the Big Ten, you are doing something. The Big Ten is not deficient when it comes to developing NFL talent.

            In the last 10 drafts the Big Ten has had 339 players drafted, the SEC 401. Within those numbers the SEC has produced 80 (19.9%) ALL-Pro/Pro bowl appearances, the Big Ten 62 (18.2%).


            So, saying the comparison the Big Ten talent to the SEC talent is "embarassing" shows your bias or your ignorance take your choice.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 3937

              #51
              Lattimore had 500 less yards. Richardson went 267/950 3.6 avg 11 tds last year in the NFL. Michael Dyer AUB was a freshman that year & he went 182/1093 6 avg 5 tds. Wells didn't start, Pittman was there. The following year Wells went 274/1609 5.9 avg 15 tds. I don't know what kind fo freak you have to be but Yeldon is a true freshman & he went 175/1108 6.3 avg 12 tds while Lacy put up 1,000 yards in the SEC. Todd Gurley was second in the SEC last year 222/1385 6.2 avg 17 tds & he is a freshman.

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              • deljzc
                Rookie
                • Mar 2013
                • 26

                #52
                I'm not getting into an SEC vs. Big Ten argument. That's pointless.

                If we sign Wells cheap (little to no bonus money), then that's just one more guy equivalent to Redman and Dwyer fighting for carries in a under-achieving running back-by-committee scheme. Wells might have more upside, but because he is unknown he probably has more downside too.

                What we do in the draft (and the debate to draft Lattimore) is more about what our backfield will look like in 2014. If Lattimore's knee looks pretty clean after his surgery I'm okay with using a 4th round pick on him. But in my world that's a draft pick hoping to put all the Dwyers, Redmans and Wells in our rear-view mirror once and for all.

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                • Mister Pittsburgh
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3674

                  #53
                  Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                  he looked much slower this past season than he did in other years... that's why the giants let him go. wouldn't touch him..

                  Damned NFL package - i watch sooo many games... I had a Falcons fan come over and watch games with me one day... I knew Michael Turner was gone, too...
                  He had over 1k yards rushing in 14 games for a 4.6 ypc average, and also had 23 catches for near 250 yards. Far superior to anyone we had but of course it would come down to price tag.
                  @_Hellgrammite

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #54
                    lol...Wells isn't Dwyer or Redman. I don't see too many Buckeye fans saying anything of the like. Wells was considered the most powerful back in college football. And while he has struggled with playing injured you can't deny his youth and talent. Read the draft profile on Beanie I posted, then read Redmans or Dwyers.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • steelz09
                      Administrator
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4675

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      You are funny and you are showing your lack of insight. The Big Ten is the inferior conference. But, it's not a spread option, pass first conference. It's a run first conference, with teams built to stop the run. If you can run in the Big Ten, you are doing something. The Big Ten is not deficient when it comes to developing NFL talent.

                      In the last 10 drafts the Big Ten has had 339 players drafted, the SEC 401. Within those numbers the SEC has produced 80 (19.9%) ALL-Pro/Pro bowl appearances, the Big Ten 62 (18.2%).

                      So, saying the comparison the Big Ten talent to the SEC talent is "embarassing" shows your bias or your ignorance take your choice.
                      Comparing the 2 conferences is embarrassing. SEC is like watching pro football. The Big Ten is like watching pee wee football. I am not really a fan of many SEC teams but I like watching them. The differences are glaring.

                      The combination of speed and size in the SEC especially on DEFENSE is night & day between any conference. If you don't think that is more difficult on a RB then I feel sorry for you.
                      Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3937

                        #56
                        This has become a battle of conferences...That wasn't the point. Big 10 didn't boast greats in that time frame & nobody said that. The SEC "Elite" that hit the NFL was names like Ingram, Tate, Hardesty, & McCluster...Enough said about that. SEC produces big time talent but downgrading everyone else outside of that is blind.

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #57
                          Originally posted by steelz09
                          Comparing the 2 conferences is embarrassing. SEC is like watching pro football. The Big Ten is like watching pee wee football. I am not really a fan of many SEC teams but I like watching them. The differences are glaring.

                          The combination of speed and size in the SEC especially on DEFENSE is night & day between any conference. If you don't think that is more difficult on a RB then I feel sorry for you.
                          This is a fallacy.

                          The SEC has a few very good teams, but is mostly composed of teams like Vanderbilt and Kentucky...
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • steelz09
                            Administrator
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4675

                            #58
                            Ask Florida how Ohio State is when matching up against the SEC.

                            How did Penn State do when they opened against Alabama and got embarrassed.

                            How did Michigan do when they were ranked (i believe top 10), only to get absolutely embarrassed by Alabama. Who gives Alabama the best games? Oh yea, other SEC teams. Why? Because other conferences can't cut it.

                            Yeah, that Big Ten is bad ass.

                            I'm hoping another team can eventually win a national championship that is NOT in the SEC because I get tired of hearing how dominating that conference is. Ohio State tried several times but obviously they were overrated and couldn't match the speed of Florida. To argue otherwise is wasting your breadth and shows ignorance. I suggest watching different conferences play instead of whats on your local channels (probably Big Ten).
                            Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #59
                              Again, the SEC has a few very good teams...

                              It is a very top heavy conference and is not especially competitive from top to bottom...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                #60
                                Oh, and OSU beat Arkansas on a big stage...
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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