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  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    I know this wont be popular but........

    ..I would love for the Steelers to position themselves this draft in a way to be able to draft A.J. McCarron next year. If we were to give up a second this for a second first round pick next year we could have the chance of drafting next years best overall QB. Not to immediately replace Ben but to step into the starting spot at the end of Ben's contract. Or maybe even a year before the end of Ben's contract that enables the Steelers to gain back additional picks via a trade. And quite possible very high picks.

    McCarron would be great for the Steelers. 3 year starter in the SEC. Great leader. Blue collar type. And he is a winner. This one move could make the Steelers a perennial contender for titles for 10-15 years.

    67.2 % completion percentage 30 TD's 3 INT's and big game experience.
    Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

    1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash
  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10287

    #2
    First comment in his girlfriend in 3....2....1....
    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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    • steelblood
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4166

      #3
      Great stats, great leader. Unbelievable NFL caliber talent all around him. He is a tough evaluation. At this point, I think he may be a little overrated. But, that's a tough one.

      I would not give up a #2 this year as this is a fantastic draft and we can find a starter in the second round that can help us win now, with Ben.
      Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27568

        #4
        not popular
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • 8467thekraken
          Starter
          • Apr 2012
          • 720

          #5
          I just don't understand comments like this.

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          • williar
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2008
            • 1170

            #6
            Actually, this is one of the very few times I agree with DD. The way we are losing players, Harrison, Wallace, Lewis, Starks, Mendenhall and whoever else, I don't expect us to have a very good season. In fact, I see us going into full-blown rebuilding mode. I know some posters around here think that Ben can "John Wayne" this team to success but as we have seen the past couple of years, that ain't happening anymore! IMO, naturally Ben is slowing down and injuries will continue to take their toll. If this team doesn't make the playoffs again and that is a very real possibility, I think the FO would be crazy to extend him. The time is NOW to start looking for his replacement.

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            • pfelix73
              Hall of Famer
              • Aug 2008
              • 3463

              #7
              Originally posted by williar
              Actually, this is one of the very few times I agree with DD. The way we are losing players, Harrison, Wallace, Lewis, Starks, Mendenhall and whoever else, I don't expect us to have a very good season. In fact, I see us going into full-blown rebuilding mode. I know some posters around here think that Ben can "John Wayne" this team to success but as we have seen the past couple of years, that ain't happening anymore! IMO, naturally Ben is slowing down and injuries will continue to take their toll. If this team doesn't make the playoffs again and that is a very real possibility, I think the FO would be crazy to extend him. The time is NOW to start looking for his replacement.
              No way! Ben is in the prime of his career. He'll get extended next year, I would be willing to wager... They will extend with 2 years remaining...

              I would fully expect them to compete for the division title in 2013.
              6- Time Super Bowl Champions......
              IX X XIII XIV XL XLIII

              2012 MNF Executive Champion

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              • Mister Pittsburgh
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 3674

                #8
                Since the 70's dynasty, what is the highest the Steelers have picked in a draft? Was the 11th pick for Ben after going 6-10 the highest we have had?

                I understand where you are coming from on McCarron. On one hand, we have what, 3, maybe 4 years left of Ben tops? And on the other, there is someone that could be with us for the next 10 to 12 years. I think we went so long without a good QB due to how the Steelers philosophy dictates we play. Good defense and a decent running game will get you to .500 almost every season. Especially with the Browns and Cincy in the division. And 8-8 lands you smack dab in the middle of the draft where you will hardly ever see a sure fire stud QB. We went .500 this year and we pick 17th which means that OVER half the NFL did worse then us???
                @_Hellgrammite

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                • thor75
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1038

                  #9
                  If we get a lot of compensatory picks next year like most people are predicting, then I would rather use some of those picks and maybe drop down in the first to get a high second or late first, wherever he is slated to go. I would prefer to keep all the picks we have this year to help replace this offseasons potential departures.
                  1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
                  2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
                  3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
                  4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
                  5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
                  5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
                  6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
                  6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
                  7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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                  • Mister Pittsburgh
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3674

                    #10
                    Hypothetically, the Steelers very easily could fully rebuild in two years.....

                    -Trade Ben to Arizona to be with Bruce for two firsts and two seconds. One of each this and next year. This would all but guarantee we suck next year and would get the top pick in the draft.
                    -Trade Ike for a 4th round pick.
                    -Release Harrison and Troy to free up the cap this and especially next year.
                    -With 4 first round picks, 4 second round picks, and the plethora of picks we will get from players leaving via free agency, we could address all our needs as well as have cap space to acquire players at other positions like RB-WR-S-TE as needed.
                    -I AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS, JUST SAYING IT COULD BE DONE.
                    @_Hellgrammite

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                    • Captain Crunch
                      Backup
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 116

                      #11
                      [QUOTE=Mister Pittsburgh;552047]Since the 70's dynasty, what is the highest the Steelers have picked in a draft? Was the 11th pick for Ben after going 6-10 the highest we have had?QUOTE]

                      No we picked #7 in 1989 and got Tim Worley and in 1986 we picked John Rienstra #9... John was a good friend of mine back then... I used to work out with him...

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                      • NorthCoast
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26640

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dee Dub
                        ..I would love for the Steelers to position themselves this draft in a way to be able to draft A.J. McCarron next year. If we were to give up a second this for a second first round pick next year we could have the chance of drafting next years best overall QB. Not to immediately replace Ben but to step into the starting spot at the end of Ben's contract. Or maybe even a year before the end of Ben's contract that enables the Steelers to gain back additional picks via a trade. And quite possible very high picks.

                        McCarron would be great for the Steelers. 3 year starter in the SEC. Great leader. Blue collar type. And he is a winner. This one move could make the Steelers a perennial contender for titles for 10-15 years.

                        67.2 % completion percentage 30 TD's 3 INT's and big game experience.

                        do you really want the Steelers to be hamstrung with the salaries of two first rd QBs???? What team in the modern NFL can do that and stay competitive?

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                        • Dee Dub
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4652

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          do you really want the Steelers to be hamstrung with the salaries of two first rd QBs???? What team in the modern NFL can do that and stay competitive?
                          Some of you need to go back and re-read what I posted.

                          First, I am not saying to replace Ben...until his contract is up.

                          Second, there is a rookie salary cap. McCarron wont get his big contract with the Steelers until Ben is gone.
                          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                          • lloydroid
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2026

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                            Hypothetically, the Steelers very easily could fully rebuild in two years.....

                            -Trade Ben to Arizona to be with Bruce for two firsts and two seconds. One of each this and next year. This would all but guarantee we suck next year and would get the top pick in the draft.
                            -Trade Ike for a 4th round pick.
                            -Release Harrison and Troy to free up the cap this and especially next year.
                            -With 4 first round picks, 4 second round picks, and the plethora of picks we will get from players leaving via free agency, we could address all our needs as well as have cap space to acquire players at other positions like RB-WR-S-TE as needed.
                            -I AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS, JUST SAYING IT COULD BE DONE.
                            Only problem with all that is they would have to make wise draft picks in order for this to work; Newsflash - they haven't been very good at drafting the last 5 years.

                            Mike Adams, Sean Spence, Alameda Ta'amu, Chris Rainey, Toney Clemons, Terrence Frederick, Cam Heyward, Marcus Gilbert, Curtis Brown, Chris Carter, Keith Williams, Baron Batch (never has shown me anything), Jason Worilds, Thaddeus Gibson, Chris Scott, Crezdon Butler, Stevenson Sylvester, Jonathan Dwyer, Doug Worthington, Evander Hood, Kraig Urbik, Joe Burnett, Frank Summers, Rashon Harris, A.Q. Shipley, Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Tony Hills, Dennis Dixon, Mike Humpal, Ryan Mundy

                            You aren't going to hit on every draft pick, I realize that. But if they don't draft better than the last 5 years nothing else will matter; we are doomed to suck. I don't know what happened to their drafting skills, but some how they have crapped the bed and they better get it fixed.

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                            • Dee Dub
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4652

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 8467thekraken
                              I just don't understand comments like this.
                              It's ok you are right there with those Packers fans who were saying the same thing when they drafted Aaron Rodgers. You dont understand. Give it time, it will come to you.
                              Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                              1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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