Anyone still think Wallace doesn't get Vjax money? D. Bowe gets 5 for 56 million

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  • Sugar
    Hall of Famer
    • Oct 2008
    • 3700

    #31
    Mike Wallace, not Greg Jennings, Miami Dolphins' biggest target

    [URL="http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story/0ap1000000147334/article/mike-wallace-not-greg-jennings-miami-dolphins-biggest-target"]http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story/0ap1000000147334/article/mike-wallace-not-greg-jennings-miami-dolphins-biggest-target
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    MW might not be appreciated here, but that apparently isn't the case everywhere...

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    • Chadman
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6537

      #32
      Originally posted by lloydroid
      Free agency nor the draft have even started yet, and we are already assuming we will have no players who can stretch the field? By the time kick off of week one, we will have both a WR and RB who have more speed than we do right now.
      Assuming you mean they are coming in via the draft, how much impact will a rookie actually have?

      Actually, this has partly been Chadman's argument about Wallace & Mendenhall all along. In order to fill the void of them leaving, the Steelers are now 'forced' to find replacements. They now, realistically, NEED to add a field stretching WR & an everydown RB, because those players are not obvious among the players currently on the roster.

      Since when have the Steelers had to draft for immediate need?
      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

      Light up the darkness.

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      • Captain Lemming
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        • Jun 2008
        • 16041

        #33
        Originally posted by BigRob
        Bowe signed an extension of 5 for 56 million. Anyone still think Wallace doesn't get Vjax money?
        The issue was never what he could "get".

        The issue is what is he WORTH in term of winning?

        The Steelers have 7 rings. Other teams spend too much on receivers and go nowhere.

        Arizona went to th SB with Fitz and Boldin.
        Fitz got his payday, lesser paid Boldin moved on and got a ring because the Ravens are balanced and not so stupid to overpay a single receiver.

        When was the last time that a elite paid receiver was on a team that won a SB?

        Some dumb team will sign Wallace for way more than he is worth.

        Last edited by Captain Lemming; 03-07-2013, 07:05 PM.
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        • BigRob
          Pro Bowler
          • Jul 2008
          • 1381

          #34
          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          The issue was never what he could "get".

          The issue is what is he WORTH in term of winning?

          The Steelers have 7 rings. Other teams spend too much on receivers and go nowhere.

          Arizona went to th SB with Fitz and Boldin.
          Fitz got his payday, lesser paid Boldin moved on and got a ring because the Ravens are balanced and not so stupid to overpay a single receiver.

          When was the last time that a elite paid receiver was on a team that won a SB?

          Some dumb team will sign Wallace for way more than he is worth.

          It wasn't a question of worth. A lot of people believed Wallace was crazy to expect Vjax money. It appears very likely, however, he will exceed VJax's money just a year one year later.

          The question of his worth is a different question and very debatable.
          Here comes the BOOM!
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #35
            I think most fans thought Wallace was crazy to expect big money from US. Most people said he would probaby get it from a team with no chance to contend and I think its an accurate statement.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #36
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I think most fans thought Wallace was crazy to expect big money from US. Most people said he would probaby get it from a team with no chance to contend and I think its an accurate statement.
              Accurate! No one doubted that there is a team that would overpay and make a bad investment. There are every year.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3937

                #37
                I'm thinking Wallace will get in the neighborhood of 12 mil avg from the Dolphins. I'm also thinking half way through the second year of the contract, Ross won't be welcome in his own neighborhood.

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                • Eddie Spaghetti
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4123

                  #38
                  lol.

                  the wallace detractors change their argument again.

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                    lol.

                    the wallace detractors change their argument again.
                    What changed? The argument has always been he isn't worth VJax money or Fitzgerald money. What do you think changed?
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • NJ-STEELER
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                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                      lol.

                      the wallace detractors change their argument again.
                      Remember those who brought up why he won't draw much interest this year cause of the lack of I retest last year. Citing that giving up a #1 draft choice wasnt as big a deal as first thought

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                      • NorthCoast
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26636

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        The issue was never what he could "get".

                        The issue is what is he WORTH in term of winning?

                        The Steelers have 7 rings. Other teams spend too much on receivers and go nowhere.

                        Arizona went to th SB with Fitz and Boldin.
                        Fitz got his payday, lesser paid Boldin moved on and got a ring because the Ravens are balanced and not so stupid to overpay a single receiver.

                        When was the last time that a elite paid receiver was on a team that won a SB?

                        Some dumb team will sign Wallace for way more than he is worth.

                        What he said.

                        How does KC justify a top 5 WR salary to a guy ranked 47th in yards, 51st in receptions, and 82nd in receiving TDs??....owners are as stupid as some of the players they complain about....

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                        • Eddie Spaghetti
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 4123

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          What changed? The argument has always been he isn't worth VJax money or Fitzgerald money. What do you think changed?
                          no ovi.

                          your argument was wallace wasn't worth what he thought he was. Well guess what? He is!

                          then you were fond of saying he should have just taken what the the steelers offered because you deemed it fair while having no idea of the guaranteed money. Ludicrous!

                          mike wallace is a business. He produced big time numbers and he is going to get a bigtime payday. Its not his fault the steelers are cash strapped. I guess you like seeing highly productive players walk out the door in their 20s, so you can puff out your cheast and claim we showed him.

                          laughable.

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                            no ovi.

                            your argument was wallace wasn't worth what he thought he was. Well guess what? He is!

                            then you were fond of saying he should have just taken what the the steelers offered because you deemed it fair while having no idea of the guaranteed money. Ludicrous!

                            mike wallace is a business. He produced big time numbers and he is going to get a bigtime payday. Its not his fault the steelers are cash strapped. I guess you like seeing highly productive players walk out the door in their 20s, so you can puff out your cheast and claim we showed him.

                            laughable.
                            No he isn't worth it. He may get it but he isn't worth it. He is a less than complete product that does one thing good. If he gets his money fine, hope he invests well because his career will be over with the first leg injury he gets.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35648

                              #44
                              New team for Mike Wallace by the weekend?

                              March 6th, 2013
                              Mark Kaboly | Tribune-Review



                              Even though free agency doesn’t start until 4 p.m. March 12, we very well could find out where Steelers free agent wide receiver Mike Wallace will land by this weekend.

                              The NFL added a three-day tampering window back in October that permits players, teams and agents to talk to one another before a potential free agent’s contract is up.

                              Now, it’s not like these meetings haven’t taken place in past years, but this year it will actually be legal under the new terms set forth by the NFL.

                              So, it is very possible that we could hear something about Wallace and where he will sign not long after 4 p.m. on Saturday even though it won’t become official until the beginning of the new football year March 12.

                              Speaking of Wallace, with the signing of Kansas City wide receiver Dwayne Bowe to a 5-year, $56 million deal the other day and when you take in account that Vincent Jackson got a deal just like that last year, look for Wallace to at least get the 5-years and $56 million (likely more) when he signs.

                              That might sound crazy to you, but not to former NFL executive Bill Polian.

                              Polian, who is most known for with his days as Buffalo’s GM during their first three Super Bowls and president of the Colts during the Peyton Manning era, thinks Wallace fits perfectly into the mold of what a high-priced free agent looks like.

                              ” He is productive. He has great speed, which is always something that is desirable in a receiver,” Polian said. ” He falls within the reasonable age parameters and he hasn’t had a high history of injury When you look at all of the things that you use to try to decide whether or not you want to pursue a player, he checks every box with few question marks.”

                              Polian said there aren’t many red flags at all when it comes to Wallace.

                              “He’s a guy that most people will feel is pretty desirable but, again only the market will tell,” Polian said. ” This is in many ways like an IPO. There is a lot of discussion, there is a lot of analysis, but only the market will tell you whether it’s going to go or not.”

                              [URL]http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2013/03/06/new-team-for-mike-wallace-by-the-weekend/#.UTdlyLyIXzg.twitter[/URL]

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                              • NorthCoast
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 26636

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel

                                “He’s a guy that most people will feel is pretty desirable but, again only the market will tell,” Polian said. ” This is in many ways like an IPO. There is a lot of discussion, there is a lot of analysis, but only the market will tell you whether it’s going to go or not.”

                                [URL]http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2013/03/06/new-team-for-mike-wallace-by-the-weekend/#.UTdlyLyIXzg.twitter[/URL]
                                And just like the majority of IPOs, there is the inevitable drop in value and disappointment after the hype. .... Facebook ring a bell?

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