Big Ben: Steelers locker room is perfectly fine

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  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #16
    Originally posted by LordVile
    ben takes a stand and he gets bashed?? Colbert says there aren't major problems back there. guess heez lying too huh? Hines was blowing smoke up his own arse.. Ben admits some things are said out of frustration.. No locker room is puppy dogs and flowers all the time.. but some of you just like to BITCHH like women do.... grow a set..
    perfectly said

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    • Mister Pittsburgh
      Hall of Famer
      • Jul 2008
      • 3674

      #17
      One thing I am still waiting to hear Ben say is something along the lines of embracing Haley's offense, being excited to get back to work because they were doing good things in that offense, second year in that offense things should be more fluid...something of that nature....
      @_Hellgrammite

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      • williar
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2008
        • 1170

        #18
        If Ben was half the leader that he is now trying to conveniently portray himself as, the locker room wouldn't be in this much disarray and players wouldn't be speaking out so recklessly, as they are. I don't know what Ben does but I can tell you if he was doing anything as far as helping and leading his team, you bet he would be telling the world about it as he always does.

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        • Sugar
          Hall of Famer
          • Oct 2008
          • 3700

          #19
          Originally posted by LordVile
          ben takes a stand and he gets bashed?? Colbert says there aren't major problems back there. guess heez lying too huh? Hines was blowing smoke up his own arse.. Ben admits some things are said out of frustration.. No locker room is puppy dogs and flowers all the time.. but some of you just like to BITCHH like women do.... grow a set..
          This= $$$$

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          • lloydroid
            Pro Bowler
            • Aug 2012
            • 2026

            #20
            Originally posted by williar
            If Ben was half the leader that he is now trying to conveniently portray himself as, the locker room wouldn't be in this much disarray and players wouldn't be speaking out so recklessly, as they are. I don't know what Ben does but I can tell you if he was doing anything as far as helping and leading his team, you bet he would be telling the world about it as he always does.
            It is Ben's nature to down play any negatives as all little stuff he can overcome with his late game drive to win a ball game. One of the major components in all this is that Ben can no longer be counted for game-winning drives anymore. Starting with the SB vs. GB he has failed to deliver. All he needed to do in order to make last season a play off year was to win just ONE game vs. EITHER Cinci or Dallas and he hell short. In both cases, the game was right there to the taking and he didn't deliver. Worse yet, he threw game-losing pics at the end of both games; he was the opposite of clutch - he was FAIL.

            Now, you can live with a cocky, lazy, screw ball teammate who always delivers in the clutch. Even if he is a jackass, you tend to live with it if he is Mr. Clutch. But once that same arrogant guy starts not pulling off wins in the clutch, all of a sudden, you resent his annoying traits more and more. All of a sudden, the "what me worry" persona isn't cute anymore, because the rest of the team knows something is broken and the bonehead, carefree "gunslinger" is irritating. They no longer can count on him to pull wins out, so his downplaying the issues isn't cool any more. And unless he finds his clutch gene again, it might never get truly fixed. Men will follow leaders of men, but they won't follow a guy who is undisciplined, arrogant and cocky who no longer produces. We don't know how this will fall, but it should get interesting and possibly frustrating.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #21
              Its obvious the locker room had some problems... last year wasnt the norm so its no surprise the team is a little off.

              Not sure Ben coming in after the fact means its the truth...

              Does anyone truly believe the team didnt lack leadership? Heck, we had rifts with Hines, JH and Ben during good times...
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • lloydroid
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2012
                • 2026

                #22
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Its obvious the locker room had some problems... last year wasnt the norm so its no surprise the team is a little off.

                Not sure Ben coming in after the fact means its the truth...

                Does anyone truly believe the team didnt lack leadership? Heck, we had rifts with Hines, JH and Ben during good times...
                It was obvious to me they were not "together" last season. The win in Balt. gave me hope that they had found their way, but, alas, with the weak showing vs. Cinci and Dallas, needing to just win ONE of those games to make the post season, they hadn't got the mess sorted out. But, in 2005, they found their chemistry late that season to win it all, so I thought it was still possible. But we didn't have a "win one for the Bus" to aid in our focus last year. I think Ben is somewhat of a phony and that helps add to the poor unity issue. You have players who sell out to do everything to win, and then you have the aloof Ben, who just slops his way around with a frat boy mentality like he is playing flag football with a keg on the sidelines. Those who take it more seriously do not buy into the "gun slinger" mentality. When he is playing clutch ball, pulling out Ws, that made up for his undisciplined manner in which he operates, but now that he has lost his clutch gene, his act no longer flies with half of the team.

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                • SanAntonioSteelerFan
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 8361

                  #23
                  I don't know if Ben has great leadership skills or not, I'm not in the locker room and neither is anyone else on this board (right? Or ... , nah, no way!).

                  What I do know is that Ben's boss said there weren't problems, and then Ben went out and said the right thing after that. He could have stayed STFU, but he didn't. So, I think that alone is a real plus. Maybe's he's not John Wayne, but he's trying to do the right thing for the team. That deserves some respect. Whether he did it in the way that some people wish he did or not is besides the point, as I see it anyway.


                  We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

                  HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
                    I don't know if Ben has great leadership skills or not, I'm not in the locker room and neither is anyone else on this board (right? Or ... , nah, no way!).

                    What I do know is that Ben's boss said there weren't problems, and then Ben went out and said the right thing after that. He could have stayed STFU, but he didn't. So, I think that alone is a real plus. Maybe's he's not John Wayne, but he's trying to do the right thing for the team, that deserves some respect, as I see it anyway.
                    Agreed. He basically just backed what management said.

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