What if Jarvis Jones does drop??

[steelblood]

I am very happy with the pick. I believe he will be an excellent pass rusher for us by mid-season.

Jones is willing in run support, but I've seen cornerbacks with better upper body muscle development. His arms are scrawny, and he needs to get stronger to be a complete OLB.

He has been great on special teams.

[papillon]

Man, I can't understand the angst anyone has over this pick. He's playing in his third NFL game this weekend, he's shown the ability to make some plays behind the LOS, he's close to getting sacks, by all accounts is a workaholic and to satisfy the "our defensive draft picks don't get on the field for 15 years" crowd, he's playing as a rookie, can I ask What more do you want from this kid right now?"

The team is struggling, but don't take that out on him, he isn't even on the radar as to what is wrong with this team right now. Geesh...

Pappy

[Shawn]

JJ, should be a perennial pro bowler by year 3, barring injury.

[Ghost]

Since college is the only way to judge a player prior to the draft, on paper this kid was a home run. His college playing resume, in arguably the best conference in the country, was beyond stellar. It certainly crushed Hood, Heyward, Timmons, and was easily as good as DeCastro, Pouncey, and Mendenhall. So far he shows nothing but promise and upside. A breath of fresh air in a sea of putrid draft choices spanning the last 5 -6 years.

[NorthCoast]

Let's put it this way, if the Jones pick doesnt happen, the Steelers have Worilds as their premier pass rusher..... not exactly causing opposing QBs to run away in fear....

at least Jones has sniffed a few times at a QB sack.

[Shoe]

Why did this thread even get bumped (i.e. "I told you so" moment)? I like Jones, but its not like he's done... anything, really. Yeah, he's had a few little moments where we've noticed him, but its not like he's actually made even a SACK yet. Or an INT. OK, I guess he's cracked the starting lineup. But how about we wait until he starts putting up results, before we say I told you so.

[feltdizz]

Why did this thread even get bumped (i.e. "I told you so" moment)? I like Jones, but its not like he's done... anything, really. Yeah, he's had a few little moments where we've noticed him, but its not like he's actually made even a SACK yet. Or an INT. OK, I guess he's cracked the starting lineup. But how about we wait until he starts putting up results, before we say I told you so.

someone is a fan... of themselves. LOL...

Jones has been a terror on ST's... one of the few bright spots this season. I have no problem giving Dub credit on Jones...

he needs it after all these other horrible predictions

[Gus]

Forget all this talk of Jarvis Jones dropping to us at #17. It'll never happen.

[NorthCoast]

.... bump...

not the instant starter some said. The negatives on JJ have turned out to be spot on so far.

Can only hope JJ continues the modest improvements to his game to become a good OLB.

[feltdizz]

lol.. what happened to Dub? Still licking his wounds?

[Shawn]

Spot on? How many linebacker from his class are tearing up the league right now? Why not? When you answer that you have your answer for JJ.

[Oviedo]

.... bump...

not the instant starter some said. The negatives on JJ have turned out to be spot on so far.

Can only hope JJ continues the modest improvements to his game to become a good OLB.

On the mark. He is not the dominant pass rusher this defense needs at the right OLB position. LeBeau's defense doesn't work without that. The guy has a great motor and never quits but he still can't beat good Left Tackles with his moves and strength and he still hasn't gotten fast enough to get to the QB around the end. Unfortunately for us he plays the position this defense requires getting to the QB.

[Shoe]

On the mark. He is not the dominant pass rusher this defense needs at the right OLB position. LeBeau's defense doesn't work without that. The guy has a great motor and never quits but he still can't beat good Left Tackles with his moves and strength and he still hasn't gotten fast enough to get to the QB around the end. Unfortunately for us he plays the position this defense requires getting to the QB.

He's still can develop though. Lloyd wasn't a dominant pass rusher... just a terrific football player. Peezy wasn't either... he used to always get handled by the best. There is no shame in that. What Jones needs is to work to find his niche and play to his strengths. IMO, he has good instincts and can tackle well. He's pretty quick in a short-area.

As you say, I think his die is cast in terms of his ceiling. I don't think we have "Von Miller" or Dwight Freeney on our hands. But I think he still has a chance to be a lesser Greg Lloyd or Peezy, a Jason Gildon-level player.

[Slapstick]

He's still can develop though. Lloyd wasn't a dominant pass rusher... just a terrific football player. Peezy wasn't either... he used to always get handled by the best. There is no shame in that. What Jones needs is to work to find his niche and play to his strengths. IMO, he has good instincts and can tackle well. He's pretty quick in a short-area.

As you say, I think his die is cast in terms of his ceiling. I don't think we have "Von Miller" or Dwight Freeney on our hands. But I think he still has a chance to be a lesser Greg Lloyd or Peezy, a Jason Gildon-level player.

I think his ceiling may be higher than Gildon...

[brazilsteel]

Spot on? How many linebacker from his class are tearing up the league right now? Why not? When you answer that you have your answer for JJ.

Kiko Alonso had a heck of a season last year if you're including ILBs, but torn his ACL this offseason.
I think JJ is doing good this season, though. He's made great progress from last season, IMO.