Great insight on Manti T'eo from Ex-GM Bill Polian

[NJ-STEELER]

and the jets didnt even bother offering him a contract

what were larry foote's stats this past year (i havent looked them up..i do remember something like 4 sacks)

[feltdizz]

113 tackles
75 solo
4 sacks
2 passes defensed
2 forced fumbles

[Dee Dub]

He WAS talking to a man the whole time.. Reniah did the "VOICE" on DR. PHIL

but I still don't think he knew it was a man or that he is gay...

I have shown over and over and over on this forum that Tuiososopo's cousin (a female), had come forward and admitted to being the one who talked to T'eo on the phone. I'm tired of trying to get ya'all to see the actual facts (it's not hard. It's all out there. You can Google it). If you want to believe the lying, deceitful, emotionally disturbed, Reniah Tiuososopo, then knock your self out.

The very fact this no-name loser, seeking his 15 minutes of fame, went on Dr. Phil, should tell you something. <-------Insert light bulb here.

[Sugar]

The very fact this no-name loser, seeking his 15 minutes of fame, went on Dr. Phil, should tell you something. <-------Insert light bulb here.

Wait a minute!!! Are you insinuating that people might go on a popular talk show and... LIE???

[NJ-STEELER]

113 tackles
75 solo
4 sacks
2 passes defensed
2 forced fumbles

pretty comparable.

the only reason we were in the hunt for his services was because he wasnt a high sought free agent. aside from hartings, has there been another big free agent we signed

[feltdizz]

[QUOTE=Dee Dub;551762]I have shown over and over and over on this forum that Tuiososopo's cousin (a female), had come forward and admitted to being the one who talked to T'eo on the phone. I'm tired of trying to get ya'all to see the actual facts (it's not hard. It's all out there. You can Google it). If you want to believe the lying, deceitful, emotionally disturbed, Reniah Tiuososopo, then knock your self out.

The very fact this no-name loser, seeking his 15 minutes of fame, went on Dr. Phil, should tell you something. <-------Insert light bulb here.[/QOUTE]


Do you really believe his cousin was on the phone EVERY TIME? Manti said sometimes they talked all night.
I find it hard to believe she would put in that much time with nothing to gain.

We are just going to agree to disagree on this one...

[lloydroid]

pretty comparable.

the only reason we were in the hunt for his services was because he wasnt a high sought free agent. aside from hartings, has there been another big free agent we signed

Not many, that's for sure. Keven Greene, Farrior, Donnell Woolford (ended up being a drunk punk but at the time it was considered a fairly big free agent), Duce Staley (I said it was a dumb signing at the time as I knew his tires had no tread, but some how the front office didn't grasp this), Will Wolford (winding down his career but still a fairly big name at the time). Not a lot but some.

[lloydroid]

I don't care anything about this kid and the story of the fake girlfriend. That is not why I don't want them to draft him; the reason I don't want them to draft him is because he's not that good. A 3rd rounder at best. His # of tackles is misleading because he often made tackles after the offense had a successful play, not before. I was watching tapes on the guy and he was often knocked off the point of attack, and no, not just the AL game. And, he won't be a 1st - 3rd down LB, he will come off the field on 3rd down, and for that you want to take him in the first round? No F-ing way.

[feltdizz]

Not many, that's for sure. Keven Greene, Farrior, Donnell Woolford (ended up being a drunk punk but at the time it was considered a fairly big free agent), Duce Staley (I said it was a dumb signing at the time as I knew his tires had no tread, but some how the front office didn't grasp this), Will Wolford (winding down his career but still a fairly big name at the time). Not a lot but some.

Duce looked good until the Pats punched him in the hammy. Dirty MFers

[Mister Pittsburgh]

I'm with you Dee, I think he will be a solid player. I we were picking in the lower half of the first I would have no issue taking him.

[birtikidis]

right. all they really need is run stuffers since the DL are the ones holding up the OL. and how many times do we see troy in the box? is that really where we want to spend (another) 1st round pick? what does this defense look like when are OLBs are not able to apply consistent QB pressure or create an edge in the run game? our defense is much more predicated on them

aside from timmons who was drafted as an OLB and isnt the classic run stuffer anyway they had farrior (cast off from the jets...low level FA signing) foote (4th rounder) etc.

bell was a 2nd rounder who like chad brown had pass rushing ability that likely got him drafted higher

I disagree. Lebeaus defense needs two very athletic inside linebackers to really make it function. You can convert outside guys that are low draft picks because they really only have one function (should say primary function) and that is getting after the qb. The guys in the middle need to be able to get after the qb, go sideline to sideline to chase backs, and drop into coverage in the middle of the field. I'd also prefer to keep Troy, and any other safety, OUT of the box and let him be MORE effective because he doesn't have to cover for any poor linebacker play. Course, it's a moot point now that Troy is in the back half of his career.